some people in this forum has very high arrogance certainly
so better to be wise to take who’s word take into consideration how much
It’s common sense. Clearly you lack that.
Injecting sus twice a week is not optimal for controlling testosterone peaks in your blood. You would need to inject sus every day or every other day to match the peak levels of injecting test e&c twice a week
And pct starts at a different time
This is all based off the mixed esters found in sus. Which obviously you know nothing about even tho you are injecting it because you said sus is the same as test E&C
Edit: I’m not trying to come across as a dick but plz don’t spout out wrong information. It can be harmful to people who don’t do their own research.
I understand because sus is composed of so many different esters that release at different rates so you want your body to naturally regulate DHT levels & estrogen levels to a single steady dosage of test instead of having a mix of short & long esters of test making your hormone levels bounce all around not giving yourself a chance to level itself out
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Okay so one steady dose so say start at 600mg and run it for 6-8 weeks. Then when I peak increase dosage say I wanna run 750 from week 6-12? & many people in YouTube are saying HCG is a miracle but I can’t believe everything on the internet but it’s worth a try? A medical doctor on Muscular Development YouTube channel, who obviously runs gear was explaining HCG works & a few YouTube fitness gurus. I’ll have to research Nolva pct. I heard of clomid what’s clomid do?
I think this would be fine. Altho I’d still suggest just starting 750 from the beggining.
Ya iv seen the videos. They are very convincing. Especially that guy Kai. He breaks down the use of hcg for pct very compelling.
My summary is it works. The reason I don’t prescribe to it is blasting a lot of hcg in a short amount of time can come with its own side effects. Does it work–probably, does it work a lot better than just nolva if any ? I don’t think so. I’m a fan of keeping it simple with as little sides as possible. Im not competing I’m not a body builder. I’m just a normal fella who works out and wants to look my best so I’m not trying to make things any more complicated than I have to.
Lol which is why I don’t like mixed esters:joy:
Thank you for all the help. Ill stay posted and make sure to have an epic transformation for all of you. I need to get all my stuff for the cycle ready, become more prepared & informed on the subject.
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YOUR arrogance is getting rather irritating. Throwing out your last bloods mean absolutely nothing. Why dont you get one the day after your sus injection then the morning of your next (before injection) then you’ll see what @zeek1414 is talking about. Sus is garbage beside test E and C, just because your taking it doesnt make it any less so.
Dont question someone elses credibility on this forum when you clearly have no clue what your doing.
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Here is the release schedule for sustanon over a 12 week cycle, injection frequency twice a week. Note the peaks and valleys.
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Do you think 750mgs is a moderate test E or C only cycle dose for a beginner to PEDs on a 12 week cycle? I don’t want to feel like I’m on way to much or not enough
Just run the standard 500 p/w for at least 12 weeks, you can get a feel for a decent dose without it becoming too overwhelming. You’ll make great gains on a 500 cyp cycle. Plus you’ll leave the door open for heavier doses down the line.
Ya in gonna have to agree with @deanis55 altho im a fan of 750mg a week (if it’s a test only cycle) but I can also tolerate it easily without estrogen issues. Even some people who can run 500mg a week with no AI report to need an AI at 750.
Sense this will be your first legit cycle I’d suggest sticking to 500 altho if you do run 750 don’t assume that you will automatically need an AI. If i were you with your previous history I’d probably just run 20mg nolva ED during cycle. That way you can let your estrogen roam free without getting paranoid about getting gyno. But of course keep the AI on hand because some do have some pretty bad negative sides from high E aside from gyno
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From the sounds 500mgs is standard first cycle & but 750mgs doesn’t sound like a super outrageous amount compared to dosages these guys run but I understand everyone is different & will respond different to different dosages I guess it’s going to be a risk I’ve gotta be willing to take right? I don’t think I’ll regret it. As of now I’ve not decided on dosage. Is dragon pharma good stuff? swim claims it’s quality, swim also claims he try’s to stay under a gram all together per week
And yes I’ll run 20mg nolva a day because I’m not going through this gyno nightmare again
Theres a reason 500 is the standard, it’s a heavy enough dose to get some serious results, but not too much that the sides get out of hand for a newbie. 750 is 50% more then that so if anything goes wrong at 500 it’s going to be be that much worse on 750.
lol, this forum cracks me up sometimes.
You can pin sustanon twice a week. Doesn’t make a damn bit of difference.
Omg but the esters!
It’s one of those times when something matters on paper but makes no difference whatsoever in practical terms.
I love it when people argue over these tiny little pointless details.
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This is your opinion. I was simply stating what is shows on paper and explaining it is NOT the same as test E or C as far as esters go.
A lot of people would disagree with you a quick google search yields numerous topics of why not to run sus at twice a week for blast cycles. But to each their own.
Noobs, man.
Guys read a pubmed article or two then get into pedantic arguments about inconsequential shit.
Hilarious
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Altho iv never been much of reading pubmed articles. I’d gladly follow scientific research over bro science any day
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And i’d take real actual experience over chumps that blindly believe everything they read
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I think we’re unnecessarily arguing over minutia. I’ve said before in this forum that sustanon twice a week is not optimal but no, it won’t kill you nor will it be ineffective. In other words, I agree with me.
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