[quote]NickViar wrote:
-Labor is a material resource. I’m not sure why(well, I’m actually pretty sure that it has to do with the public indoctrination most of us received as children) it’s so hard for so many to understand that fact.
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Yes. The manpower of an individual is a resource.
You let me know what millions of Americans were doing during 1937 with their collective manpower.
[quote]magick wrote:
Yes. The manpower of an individual is a resource.
You let me know what millions of Americans were doing during 1937 with their collective manpower.[/quote]
Waiting on money that had been taken out of the economy to be put back in. Government can’t spend money that it has not first taken.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Islamists haven’t been successful in the past 25 years because they didn’t have the numbers. As they continue to invade, and their numbers increase, this will change. You see it in Europe with Islamists trying to declare Sharia zones, Pakistani pedophiles being shielded in Rotherham, Norway deporting their asses and crime dropping.
I’ve said this many times to friends and people. I have a friend in Serbia, and land or home ownership is based on reciprocity. So if a Serbian is allowed to own land where you are from, then you’re welcome to own land there. I think immigration should be the same way, if a citizen of (where you are from) is not safe in (country), then people from that country shouldn’t be allowed to immigrate, or should be extensively screened at their own expense. Letting in people from a country where you would just as easily wind up decapitated, with your organs removed, kidnapped, ransomed, whatever, doesn’t matter. People from those countries shouldn’t be welcomed as easily. It’s the most blatant Trojan horse tactic, and it is happening.
Google videos link of Sharia zone harassment
https://www.google.ca/search?q=uk+sharia+zones&num=50&safe=off&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ei=XxanVIySDsXnoAT0qoGgBg&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAw&biw=1366&bih=643
Pedophile ring and complicit government officials
Norway deportation
http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/norway-deports-record-number-of-muslims-to-reduce-crime-31-increase/
Serbia land ownership
http://www.expatserbia.com/once-youre-here/accommodation-and-housing/432-buying-a-property-in-serbia
http://www.schoenherr.rs/pdf/serbia_article_re09.pdf[/quote]
That kind of ideology, albeit logical, will now get you labeled a racist.
Yeah, well those pro-multiculturalists seem to forget that Western Civilization/American/Canadian/English is also a culture, and has actually empowered people from those cultures that they love to put above their own to improve their lives, at the expense of ourselves.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
That kind of ideology, albeit logical, will now get you labeled a racist. [/quote]
It’s also anti-spirit of the Constitution, so w.e. =P
How is it anti-spirit magick? Prevent the immigration of people that want to hijack/usurp your country would, IMO, be protecting the constitution and freedom of Americans. I’m not saying let no one in, but to be more selective.
Just because someone may be tired, poor, and hungry doesn’t make their immigration a guarantee. It’s the 21st century and not every one is on the same page with respect to liberty, and certain guaranteed freedoms.
Apologies, I meant to write the Declaration of Independence. Slip of the tongue.
[quote]magick wrote:
Apologies, I meant to write the Declaration of Independence. Slip of the tongue.[/quote]
I hope and feel that you are joking here…but I’m not sure. Tell me that you’re joking… The Declaration of Independence certainly did not, in either word or spirit, deal with immigration.
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]magick wrote:
Apologies, I meant to write the Declaration of Independence. Slip of the tongue.[/quote]
I hope and feel that you are joking here…but I’m not sure. Tell me that you’re joking… The Declaration of Independence certainly did not, in either word or spirit, deal with immigration.[/quote]
Prior to the 1960’s the immigrants were all European and Christian. English, Scots, German, Irish etc and then later from Eastern Europe. And importantly, there was no social security. They came to the country to profit from natural resources; that’s how and why the Appalachians, the Rockies, the Great Plains and the Sierra Nevada were opened up: timber, beaver, buffalo, wild long horn cattle etc. The wave of migration along the Oregon Trail opening up the West in the 19th Century was the largest migration in human history. But it was a Christian, European population, the native Americans and the black slaves. The people that come to Western countries from the third world today know nothing about our history and culture and they’re not even net contributors to the economy. People pushing for open borders on any grounds are insane. The infrastructure is already collapsing and we’re in a catastrophic cultural decline already. It’s madness.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]magick wrote:
Apologies, I meant to write the Declaration of Independence. Slip of the tongue.[/quote]
I hope and feel that you are joking here…but I’m not sure. Tell me that you’re joking… The Declaration of Independence certainly did not, in either word or spirit, deal with immigration.[/quote]
Prior to the 1960’s the immigrants were all European and Christian. English, Scots, German, Irish etc and then later from Eastern Europe. And importantly, there was no social security. They came to the country to profit from natural resources; that’s how and why the Appalachians, the Rockies, the Great Plains and the Sierra Nevada were opened up: timber, beaver, buffalo, wild long horn cattle etc. The wave of migration along the Oregon Trail opening up the West in the 19th Century was the largest migration in human history. But it was a Christian, European population, the native Americans and the black slaves. The people that come to Western countries from the third world today know nothing about our history and culture and they’re not even net contributors to the economy. People pushing for open borders on any grounds are insane. The infrastructure is already collapsing and we’re in a catastrophic cultural decline already. It’s madness.[/quote]
Alot of truth here, look at this stat from the Wall Street Journal about how California changed, and not in the best way.
“From the mid-1980s to 2005, California’s population grew by 10 million, while Medicaid recipients soared by seven million; tax filers paying income taxes rose by just 150,000; and the prison population swelled by 115,000.”
Dude that’s a shit ton of poor people. 7 Million on Medicaid for a state while only 1.5% of them are tax filers ?
This idea of open borders is nothing more than a way to further annihilate the middle class. It’s pretty much dead already, and the new wave of immigrants is the death nail. It’s people who are happy to be in America, and who wont complain about a 10cent raise to their minimum wage salary and thus further increasing the gap between rich and poor.
rich get richer, and the poor well…who gives a shit…let’s just keep importing more poor people who only care about taking advantage of US.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]magick wrote:
What does LIBERTY actually feel like?
I’ve never felt the government intrude in my life. While the NSA spying is unacceptable and clearly a violation of everything the U.S. should hold dear, it had no genuine impact on my life. I’m sure the same cannot be said for many other people, but the fact is I’ve never felt restricted by the government in deciding what I want to do.
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I don’t have time today to address everything, but I will address this.
How much have you actually done? As in, how many businesses have you started and run? How many homes have you built? Or bought? How long have you been banking? How long have you been paying taxes? Have any international assets? Tried to import or export anything? Ever tried to transfer money or take money out of the country?
Do you have kids? Ever spanked them? Ever told them to go outside and come home when the street lights come on? Ever done anything “mischievous”? Or just wanted to walk alone at night without being bothered? How many things have your bought and sold?
Ever flown without taking your shoes off? Ever driven to Canada with just a driver’s license? They can prosecute a librarian now for TELLING you that the US government is investigating you. Same for bankers.
If you don’t have any experience doing any of those things, then you wont know the difference. When I was younger and starting in business, I could do ANY of that unimpeded. Now, they want your social security number to open up a fucking BANK ACCOUNT! If you deposit or withdraw more than ten thousand dollars, you bank HAS to notify the government. If you want to bring IN more than 10,000 you have to declare it. Why? What does that information have to do with GOVERNMENT?
As I mentioned in an earlier post, many international banks simply won’t accept any new American clients.
It didn’t used to be that way. You could do what your wanted, as long as you weren’t hurting anyone else.
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I left the United States in 1994, and returned in 2008.
It is no exaggeration to say that I found myself in a vastly different country than the one I had left.
I’m back in Japan now, which seems about the same as it was back in '94, with the obvious improvements in architecture and technology.
I’m just reading through this thread, AC, and this quote caught my eye:
I’ve recommended it to a number of my friends here, including Cortes and Mikeyali, but I can’t recall whether I have ever recommended my favourite book, Fates of Nations, a Biological Theory of History to you.
I think it would be right up your alley.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]magick wrote:
What does LIBERTY actually feel like?
I’ve never felt the government intrude in my life. While the NSA spying is unacceptable and clearly a violation of everything the U.S. should hold dear, it had no genuine impact on my life. I’m sure the same cannot be said for many other people, but the fact is I’ve never felt restricted by the government in deciding what I want to do.
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I don’t have time today to address everything, but I will address this.
How much have you actually done? As in, how many businesses have you started and run? How many homes have you built? Or bought? How long have you been banking? How long have you been paying taxes? Have any international assets? Tried to import or export anything? Ever tried to transfer money or take money out of the country?
Do you have kids? Ever spanked them? Ever told them to go outside and come home when the street lights come on? Ever done anything “mischievous”? Or just wanted to walk alone at night without being bothered? How many things have your bought and sold?
Ever flown without taking your shoes off? Ever driven to Canada with just a driver’s license? They can prosecute a librarian now for TELLING you that the US government is investigating you. Same for bankers.
If you don’t have any experience doing any of those things, then you wont know the difference. When I was younger and starting in business, I could do ANY of that unimpeded. Now, they want your social security number to open up a fucking BANK ACCOUNT! If you deposit or withdraw more than ten thousand dollars, you bank HAS to notify the government. If you want to bring IN more than 10,000 you have to declare it. Why? What does that information have to do with GOVERNMENT?
As I mentioned in an earlier post, many international banks simply won’t accept any new American clients.
It didn’t used to be that way. You could do what your wanted, as long as you weren’t hurting anyone else.
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I left the United States in 1994, and returned in 2008.
It is no exaggeration to say that I found myself in a vastly different country than the one I had left.
I’m back in Japan now, which seems about the same as it was back in '94, with the obvious improvements in architecture and technology.
I’m just reading through this thread, AC, and this quote caught my eye:
I’ve recommended it to a number of my friends here, including Cortes and Mikeyali, but I can’t recall whether I have ever recommended my favourite book, Fates of Nations, a Biological Theory of History to you.
I think it would be right up your alley. [/quote]
Thanks. It’ll be here in a few days. I look forward to reading it.
Most of the active threads right now are about religion or morality and I don’t have anything nice to say about either one of those topics, so I’m putting myself on “time out”. LOL
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Most of the active threads right now are about religion or morality and I don’t have anything nice to say about either one of those topics, so I’m putting myself on “time out”. LOL[/quote]
Hmmm. Yeah, that’s probably best. There have been complaints, you know, about the atmosphere of militant atheism around here. Evidently it isn’t nice to make fun of Christianity, or Christians, or Christian morals…so I might recommend picking on the other two Abrahamic monotheisms for a while, and perhaps Zoroastrianism or Sikhism or something, just in the interest of balance. 
Hope you enjoy the book. I kinda think you will.
Gentlemen,
Update your passwords.