Lieberman, who chairs the Human Evolutionary Biology Department, said the cascading effects on human health and medical costs are so catastrophic that government should require exercise just as it mandates vaccinations and other public health measures.
lol wouldn’t an evolutionary biologist side with evolution and let fat people kill themselves off?
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Lieberman, who chairs the Human Evolutionary Biology Department, said the cascading effects on human health and medical costs are so catastrophic that government should require exercise just as it mandates vaccinations and other public health measures.
lol wouldn’t an evolutionary biologist side with evolution and let fat people kill themselves off?[/quote]
Apart from the obvious question how morbidly obese cops are going to enforce that and whether it would do any good, I wonder why nobody starts out with abolishing tariffs on sugar and subsidies of corn which kind of lead to that whole HFCS nightmare.
It is always more taxes, more regulation, more intrusion.
Then again, if obesity brings down the welfare state, I would invite everybody to dig in.
Who needs guns when we have icecream?
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Lieberman, who chairs the Human Evolutionary Biology Department, said the cascading effects on human health and medical costs are so catastrophic that government should require exercise just as it mandates vaccinations and other public health measures.
lol wouldn’t an evolutionary biologist side with evolution and let fat people kill themselves off?[/quote]
Thing is really fat people sit around all day and aren’t exposing themselves to the risks normal people do, getting hit by a car, getting shot in a robbery gone wrong, having their face eaten by a guy on bath salts, getting eaten by a spaghetti monster, teleported to a parallel dimension by evil lord Cthulhu… and so on. And obesity kills slow so there’s a big chance fattys are forcefully keeping themselves in the gene pool.
Not that they can get laid or anything… I think… oh fuck why did I think of it ?
[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Lieberman, who chairs the Human Evolutionary Biology Department, said the cascading effects on human health and medical costs are so catastrophic that government should require exercise just as it mandates vaccinations and other public health measures.
lol wouldn’t an evolutionary biologist side with evolution and let fat people kill themselves off?[/quote]
Thing is really fat people sit around all day and aren’t exposing themselves to the risks normal people do, getting hit by a car, getting shot in a robbery gone wrong, having their face eaten by a guy on bath salts, getting eaten by a spaghetti monster, teleported to a parallel dimension by evil lord Cthulhu… and so on. And obesity kills slow so there’s a big chance fattys are forcefully keeping themselves in the gene pool.
Not that they can get laid or anything… I think… oh fuck why did I think of it ?[/quote]
The thing is, I could make you sit around all day.
All I need to do is follow you around with a syringe and make sure that your insulin levels are high enough and I turn you into a fat lazy slob in 2 months.
Its magic.
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Lieberman, who chairs the Human Evolutionary Biology Department, said the cascading effects on human health and medical costs are so catastrophic that government should require exercise just as it mandates vaccinations and other public health measures.
lol wouldn’t an evolutionary biologist side with evolution and let fat people kill themselves off?[/quote]
If they live long enough to have children then evolution does not play a role. The more affluent a society is the less important survival of the fittest is.
[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
Not that they can get laid or anything… I think… oh fuck why did I think of it ?[/quote]
Google ‘bbw’… LOL
It happens more than people like to admit, me thinks.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Maybe.
I think the most likely answer is:
-Blacks make up a significant portion of the lower socio-economic classes in the US
-poor people can’t afford healthy food
-unhealthy food combined with a sedentary lifestyle leads to obesity
I don’t have any evidence but I doubt obesity rates noticeably vary within a socio-economic class. [/quote]
Black people can afford healthy food, EATING TOO MUCH and a sedentary lifestyle leads to fatness. More likely black people don’t care about health, or have no idea how to but healthy food.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Not Fat[/quote]
Those look like some nice big fat tig ol bitties to me.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
EATING TOO MUCH and a sedentary lifestyle leads to fatness.
[/quote]
That is logically correct and lacks any explanatory power.
WHY do they eat too much and move to little?
I can turn you into a fat lazy slob too.
I just have to keep your insulin high.
The very moment that you can no longer properly access your fat reserves you will move less and eat more, garantueed.
I think the real question is: Would you fuck a fat bird? Of course the answer is yes,but you don’t tell anyone about it.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
EATING TOO MUCH and a sedentary lifestyle leads to fatness.
[/quote]
That is logically correct and lacks any explanatory power.
WHY do they eat too much and move to little?
I can turn you into a fat lazy slob too.
I just have to keep your insulin high.
The very moment that you can no longer properly access your fat reserves you will move less and eat more, garantueed. [/quote]
This sounds like Gary Taubes bs. Becoming fat is becoming fat, you got that way from eating too much and not moving enough, not from the insulin monster.
I dunno man I think this lady is just really trying to make herself seem smart and really going out of her way to rationalize herself being a fatty. If you just look at her little so called workout plan and diet tips itll show you just how fuckin stupid she is. Just my two cents.
All great points guys. Its just really odd to think of someone wanting to be fat or keeping themselves at a physical disadvantage. Maybe there’s some psychological desire to be fat for certain people.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
EATING TOO MUCH and a sedentary lifestyle leads to fatness.
[/quote]
That is logically correct and lacks any explanatory power.
WHY do they eat too much and move to little?
I can turn you into a fat lazy slob too.
I just have to keep your insulin high.
The very moment that you can no longer properly access your fat reserves you will move less and eat more, garantueed. [/quote]
This sounds like Gary Taubes bs. Becoming fat is becoming fat, you got that way from eating too much and not moving enough, not from the insulin monster. [/quote]
don’t be so quick to diminish another hypothesis… has our country really gone from not sloth/gluttony to it within one generation?
Granted, some people actually do suck at life, but I see plenty of people that try to eat healthy and exercise that complain they can’t lose weight. there’s more to it than most want to accept
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
EATING TOO MUCH and a sedentary lifestyle leads to fatness.
[/quote]
That is logically correct and lacks any explanatory power.
WHY do they eat too much and move to little?
I can turn you into a fat lazy slob too.
I just have to keep your insulin high.
The very moment that you can no longer properly access your fat reserves you will move less and eat more, garantueed. [/quote]
This sounds like Gary Taubes bs. Becoming fat is becoming fat, you got that way from eating too much and not moving enough, not from the insulin monster. [/quote]
Yes, that is Gary Taubes BS.
Have you ever been in a situation where your fasting blood glucose was prediabetic?
Because I have.
Have you ever been in a situation where you downed a mere 150 g of “healthy” carbs and forced yourself to exercise only to experience that parts of your body simply shut off?
Because I have.
And, I mean shut off. No cramps, no fatique, as if someone had thrown a switch. I suppose most people dont get that far, then again, most people are less stubborn than me.
Have you ever experienced cutting out your carbs, having your finbgernails suddenly grow twice as fast and only eating half the calories?
Because I have.
Have you ever experienced your cholesterol and triglyceride levels drop like a stone?
Because I have.
What I am trying to tell you in as nice a way as possible, that you have no idea what you are talking about.
But I am glad that you have an opinion.
Rock on!
So, sardines makes a generalized statement about why the majority of people are fat, which you counter with a personal anecdote that you even admit isn’t applicable to most overweight people (“I suppose most people dont get that far”) to show him that he doesn’t know what he is talking about?
Besides, you are speaking from your experience in an admittedly diseased state, whereas sardines is speaking of what puts people in such a state to begin with.
It’s already been shown that one can lose weight eating Twinkies and Hostess cup cakes.
Sorry, Taubes.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
EATING TOO MUCH and a sedentary lifestyle leads to fatness.
[/quote]
That is logically correct and lacks any explanatory power.
WHY do they eat too much and move to little?
I can turn you into a fat lazy slob too.
I just have to keep your insulin high.
The very moment that you can no longer properly access your fat reserves you will move less and eat more, garantueed. [/quote]
This sounds like Gary Taubes bs. Becoming fat is becoming fat, you got that way from eating too much and not moving enough, not from the insulin monster. [/quote]
don’t be so quick to diminish another hypothesis… has our country really gone from not sloth/gluttony to it within one generation?
Granted, some people actually do suck at life, but I see plenty of people that try to eat healthy and exercise that complain they can’t lose weight. there’s more to it than most want to accept[/quote]
Cant be, lipid hypothesis or bust.
At this rate pretty much every American will be diabetic by 2030, even though their fat intake went down, percentage wise.
Hay, type 2 diabetic toddlers, they probably did not exercise enough.
Of course it is entirely irrelevant that people that are the least adjusted to a high carb diet are leading the charge.
We will ride this pony until it dies of a hyperglycemic shock.
[quote]anonym wrote:
It’s already been shown that one can lose weight eating Twinkies and Hostess cup cakes.
Sorry, Taubes.[/quote]
When in a controlled situation 
that said, I believe the food diary of that professor showed that he was consuming many “healthy” foods and not strictly the junk. I believe his carb intake was still around 150 per day much less than the avg american
[quote]anonym wrote:
So, sardines makes a generalized statement about why the majority of people are fat, which you counter with a personal anecdote that you even admit isn’t applicable to most overweight people (“I suppose most people dont get that far”) to show him that he doesn’t know what he is talking about?
Besides, you are speaking from your experience in an admittedly diseased state, whereas sardines is speaking of what puts people in such a state to begin with.
It’s already been shown that one can lose weight eating Twinkies and Hostess cup cakes.
Sorry, Taubes.[/quote]
What actually has been shown is that people with an impaired insulin sensitivity do much, much better on a low carb diet.
People with a normal sugar metabolism actually do quite well with both a low carb and low fat diet.
What has been shown is that people with a normal sugar metabolism who are technically obese are healthy as fuck and live to be a 100 (joint problems may occur, who knows) whereas people who show all the signs of a hyperinsulinemia and are thin drop dead just as readily as their fat counterparts.
That has been shown.
That fat leads to diabetes, heart disease or even diabetes however has not been shown.
That nutritionary cholesterol significantly raises your blood cholesterol has not been shown, in fact, a high fat diet has been SHOWN to drop it significantly.
That high cholesterol levels lead to CHDs has also not been shown, except that individuals with more than 300 might, might, have a 1-2% higher chance of developing one.
So why do you pity Taubes, because he has done his research whereas you have not?
That is psychologically understandable and scientifically worthless.
