Creationism vs Evolution

Creationists: Ignorant, Stupid, Insane, or Wicked
31-October-2008 · 30 Comments

IF YOU do a Google search on the phrase â??ignorant, stupid or insaneâ?? youâ??ll get over 2,500 hits. Thatâ??s because Richard Dawkins famously wrote, with bold added by us:

To claim equal time for creation science in biology classes is about as sensible as to claim equal time for the flat-earth theory in astronomy classes. Or, as someone has pointed out, you might as well claim equal time in sex education classes for the stork theory. It is absolutely safe to say that if you meet somebody who claims not to believe in evolution, that person is ignorant, stupid or insane (or wicked, but Iâ??d rather not consider that).

If that gives you offense, Iâ??m sorry. You are probably not stupid, insane or wicked; and ignorance is no crime â?¦

Source: Richard Dawkins Review of â??Blueprints: Solving the Mystery of Evolutionâ?? â?? The â??Ignorant, Stupid, Insane, Wickedâ?? Comment in Context

Seven years after writing that celebrated description, Dawkins expanded upon it at his own website: Ignorance is No Crime. Excerpts, with bold added by us:

â??It is absolutely safe to say that if you meet somebody who claims not to believe in evolution, that person is ignorant, stupid or insane (or wicked, but Iâ??d rather not consider that).â?? I first wrote that in a book review in the New York Times in 1989, and it has been much quoted against me ever since, as evidence of my arrogance and intolerance. Of course it sounds arrogant, but undisguised clarity is easily mistaken for arrogance. Examine the statement carefully and it turns out to be moderate, almost self-evidently true.

Many adjectives have been associated with Dawkins, but â??modestâ?? isnâ??t one of them. He continues:

I originally listed â??wickedâ?? as one of my possibilities, only for completeness. I have never been sure whether there truly are intelligent, knowledgeable and sane people who feign disbelief in evolution for ulterior motives. Perhaps a political candidate needs some such dissimulation in order to get elected in certain States. If so, it is sad but possibly not much more reprehensible than the proverbial kissing of babies. Not deeply wicked.

Dawkins then gives a few examples of obviously disingenuous conduct by creationists, which he tactfully declines to label as wickedness; and then he says this:

I donâ??t withdraw a word of my initial statement. But I do now think it may have been incomplete. There is perhaps a fifth category, which may belong under â??insaneâ?? but which can be more sympathetically characterised by a word like tormented, bullied or brainwashed. Sincere people who are not ignorant, not stupid and not wicked, can be cruelly torn, almost in two, between the massive evidence of science on the one hand, and their understanding (or misunderstanding) of what their holy book tells them on the other. I think this is one of the truly bad things religion can do to a human mind. There is wickedness here, but it is the wickedness of the institution and what it does to a believing victim, not wickedness on the part of the victim himself.

Thatâ??s Dawkinsâ?? thinking on the subject, which has permanently entered into the dialogue about creationism. Itâ??s foolish to think that we can improve upon the terminology of an Oxford professor, but everyone else seems to give it a try. Perhaps itâ??s because creationists are subjects of gruesome fascination, like flat-earthers and moon-landing deniers. We canâ??t avoid it â?? we find ourselves strangely intrigued by such intellectual train-wrecks. Therefore, we wonâ??t resist the impulse to offer our own thoughts, but where we differ from Dawkins is mostly in our choice of words.

But first, bear in mind that thereâ??s a big difference between someone: (a) who believes in a creator; and (b) who also believes in creationism. The former doesnâ??t concern us; the latter is a â??creationist,â?? who insists on beliefs that are contradicted by readily observable evidence, and who also denies tested, well-supported scientific conclusions. A creationist will put himself through the most amazing mental contortions in order to maintain his belief system.

Your Curmudgeon attributes belief in creationism â?? including creation â??scienceâ?? and intelligent design â??theoryâ?? â?? to the fact that a creationist is either one or a combination of the following:

  1. an ignoramus, possibly due to home schooling, no schooling, etc. This is Dawkinsâ?? first category â?? â??ignorantâ?? (in which we include the misinformed), but we find Dawkinsâ?? word insufficient. Ignorance does not imply militant rejectionism, only a lack of information. Like Dawkins, we believe that ignorance is a curable condition. Indeed, we all began our lives in ignorance, and regardless of our intelligence and education, there are many subjects of which we know little, if anything, and about which we rightly say â??I donâ??t know.â?? But if an uneducated or misinformed person insists â?? notwithstanding his ignorance â?? that he knows what heâ??s talking about, and he goes around babbling that all the experts are wrong, then heâ??s an ignoramus.

  2. a simpleton, perhaps a retardate or some other type of mental defective. This is Dawkinsâ?? second category â?? â??stupid.â?? Our word is less pejorative than his, because we see no need to do more than describe their condition. Thereâ??s not much that can be done about this group.

  3. a fanatic, a term which includes those who are demented, deranged, or possessed, such conditions being likely due to an authoritarian political ideology, intensely brutal religious indoctrination, or some other tenacious meme infection. This is Dawkinsâ?? third category â?? â??insane,â?? and we think it also includes his later fifth category â?? â??tormented.â?? Within this group are those who disrupt internet forums, insist on teaching creationism in schools, and â?? if given the opportunity â?? would burn books, torture heretics, kill witches, and fly planes into buildings.

  4. a charlatan, a self-explanatory term which includes Dawkinsâ?? fourth category â?? â??wicked,â?? but itâ??s slightly less moralistic, thus easier to apply without the hesitation Dawkins exhibits with â??wicked.â?? Many of those who make a living writing and lecturing about creationism fall into this category â?? at least thatâ??s our suspicion. Theyâ??re relatively harmless, except for their influence on the other categories.

So there it is â?? the Curmudgeonâ??s manifesto: A creationist is either an ignoramus, a simpleton, a fanatic, a charlatan, or some combination thereof.

Figures don’t Lie but Creationists Figure - By Alec Grynspan

One of the Creationists’ ploys has been to quote two Astrophysicists as if they were experts in biochemistry.

Note that the 2 individuals in question (Hoyle and Wickramasinghe) have no problem with evolution itself and considered Creationists insane. They argue only that the ORIGIN of life, which is not part of evolutionary fact or theory, requires either a much older universe for Panspermia or that life needed a Creator to start.

More background: Years ago Hoyle and Wickramasinghe postulated a steady-state universe and opposed the idea of the “big bang”. As part of their attack on “big bang”, which was rapidly winning ground over steady-state, they cooked up a “probability” for life to originate on Earth that was essentially impossible.

To then cover the fact that life actually existed on Earth, they came up with the question-begging hypothesis of Panspermia. The result was that the origin of life was pushed further back. With the probability being so low, it would have taken trillions upon trillions of years for life to form using their concept.

BUT - with a steady-state universe, a trillion zeroes in the probability equation would have had no effect on the end result, since the universe would have been eternal.

Eventually, however, the steady onslaught of evidence for a “big bang” and against a steady-state universe forced Hoyle and Wickramasinghe to acquiesce.

So they were stuck with their bogus equations. What to do?

Well, if one postulated the existence of a creator, one eliminated the problem of the equations! One further undermined the concept of a non-created universe, giving them one more kick at the “big bang” cat.

This “probability”, combined with a distortion and misquotation of Dawkins, has actually been used as a claim by some extremely dishonest Creationists as the foundation of a scientific theory of Creation, even though it is nothing of the sort for other reasons.

The flaw in the equations used by Hoyle and Wickramasinghe was that they used anonymous/non-anonymous atoms and, later, genetic sequences, to calculate the probability of a random assembly becoming a modern uni-cellular organism. The same tactic by Behe was used, via the debunked “irreducible complexity” approach, to derive a probability.

But this method of applying probability is utterly dishonest.

Let us take a simple example - table salt crystals.

Table salt is made up of sodium and chlorine atoms, so let’s start with a very small quantity (around 50 milligrams) of sodium and chlorine - around 10^20 atoms of each.

Let’s place these elements in a small container and mix it up.

What is the probability of a sodium atom meeting a chlorine atom in this container?

Answer: Virtually Unity.

What is the probability of a SPECIFIC sodium atom meeting a SPECIFIC chlorine atom in this container?

Answer: Once the sodium atom meets any OTHER chlorine atom, it is out of the picture. Similarly, once the chlorine atom meets any OTHER sodium atom, then IT is out of the picture.

The probability of the specific atoms meeting each other?

1 in 10^40.

The probability of every single specific sodium atom meeting a specific chlorine atom?

1 in 10^80. 1 with 80 zeroes after it.

Once we have 10^20 salt molecules, what is the probability of any salt molecule linking to any other until we have a salt crystal?

Answer: Unity.

What are the chances of a SPECIFIC salt molecule meeting another SPECIFIC salt molecule? 1 in 10^20.

Of all of them meeting like this? 1 in 10^40?

Of that batch of Sodium and Chlorine making that crystal?

1 in 10^120

This is how Hoyle and Wickramasinghe and Behe established their probabilities - by using permutations and treating each component of the cell as a totally unique entity with no other properties prior to final assembly than staying where placed.

Yet a pyridine molecule(for example) is the same wherever it is! Plus the properties of the variuos components REQUIRED that they have a constrained number of possible combinations.

Further, all that we need is some form of self-replication molecule that can absorb other molecules in order to replicate and mutate - already verified to be able to form naturally (although many Creationists will quote 40-year-old editorial opinions as “proof” that it can’t happen), plus the verified Dawkins effect to bring on evolution of the final form of that cell.

Let’s take another look at why this natural selection sequence, which creationists edit out when pretending to quote Dawkins, improves the probability to unity.

* 1. Every time that natural selection causes that protoliferean form to evolve in any specific direction, all the possible directions that were possible at that time are lost from the "decision tree".

* 2. Since the "probability" of that path was NOT equal to that of any of the others, it shouldn't be taken as such.

  The Hoyle/Wickramasinghe/Behe approach keeps these alternates as part of the probability equation and of equal weight.

* 3. However, these alternates are not part of the total probability equation. They are paths that, even if they had equal weight are no longer part of the equation. 

Let us do a little back-of-the-envelope calculations.

Let us presuppose that there were 10^6 mutations that caused 10^6 evolutionary bifurcations - with each alternative being of equal weight.

That means that, when that primitive barely-life nucleic acid first started the sequence, the probability against the final result being a specific cellular structure would have been

2^(10^6) or 2^1000000 or 10^300000 - 1 with THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND zeroes after it.

But, at any bifurcation, the probability that SOME path would be taken is UNITY. Therefore the probability against life forming is:

1 - 1^(10^6) or 1 - 1^1000000 or zero.

In other words, the probability that modern life would form by random mutation with natural selection is

UNITY.

Note that this does not take into account the bifurcations where one of the paths is lethal (bad mutation). These would be dead ends and would reduce the probability against the current life form developing. The end result, however, cannot pass the limit of UNITY, so it can only affect the final form of life and not the probability.

The argument of Hoyle/Wickramasinghe/Behe and probabilities is therefore debunked!

Figures don’t lie but Creationists figure, part II

“The Second Law Of Thermodynamics (All praise its glory) says that evolution is impossible!”

This has been the rallying cry of Creationists for decades.

Yet it is one of the biggest lies in their arsenal of lies.

Before we go much further, let’s take a look at the REAL second Law of Thermodynamics:

In plain language:

* 1. The amount of work that can be obtained by the flow of heat between two bodies is directly proportional to the difference in concentration of heat energy in the two bodies.

* 2. The amount of work cannot exceed that difference.

* 3. The amount of work must actually be less than that difference.

The above can be proven with great mathematical elegance.

Proven. Mathematically. Elegantly.

All THREE of the laws of thermodynamics can be shown to true via mathematics and axiomatic assumptions.

Or can they?

Is there no constraint on these Laws?

Yes, there is. The following constraints must be true:

* 1. The system is closed. There is no external source of energy to disrupt the equations.

* 2. The time period is finite. This is a constraint that becomes necessary because of the fact that heat is the motion of atoms in a random mode.

      o a. Too short a time period and the motions of the atoms will not be statistically uniform.

      o b. Too long a time period and extremely low probabilities of energetic atoms clustering to form new heat pockets becomes significant. 

* 3. New on the scene: Quantum effects can add to the conditions in 2 above.

BUT!!! Within an incredibly wide band, the Laws of thermodynamics are the most elegantly simple things in physics!

This elegance, combined with the penchant for extrapolation and extension of simple concepts into the slippery world of analogy, has resulted in the laws of thermodynamics to be expressed in “clever” terms.

* 1. You can get out what you put in.

* 2. You can't get out more than you put in.

* 3. In fact, you'll only get out part of what you put in.

A similar situation occured years ago, when relational databases were first conceived, by Codd and a method of designing them that was based on 3 basic rules (eventually 5) developed.

* 1. All elements of a row (record) are dependent on the unique key of the row.

* 2. All elements were, in the case of a composite key, dependent on the whole composite.

* 3. All of the elements of a row were dependent ONLY on the key and not on the other elements of the row.

This became, as a mnemonic:

“The key, The Whole Key and nothing but the key. So help me Codd.”

Cute, and easy to remember. But not quite the scientific statements that they were based on.

In the same way, the laws of thermodynamics, which were a little difficult for the beginners to understand, were rephrased into simpler concepts, divergent from

THE ONLY PROVEN SCIENTIFIC BASIS FOR THESE LAWS.

These laws, rephrased so cleverly, were grabbed up and used to extend the concepts within Metaphysics.

But Metaphysics is not science. It is philosophy. The elegance of “You can’t get out more than you put in” is a virtual cornerstone of a large measure of philosophic thought.

But it isn’t science.

Extending that further, we get “Things tend towards disorder”, which is actually based on the THIRD law of thermodynamics.

Somehow, this has been extended, thru judo arguments and voodoo science, to “The Second Law of Thermodynamics says that entropy keeps things fromm getting more complex. Therefore evolution isn’t real.”

Yet this has absolutely no basis in science. The Second Law, or the third or the first deal only with HEAT! The rest of the extrapolations are philosophical analogies!

Yet! Even though enough scientists have fallen into the same trap and argued based on the same concept - that entropy and bio-complexity are related - the same scientists have won that argument!

Because the argument that increasing complexity is negative entropy, bogus though it is, is countered by the fact that the TOTAL entropy of the Earth/Sun pair is actually monstrously positive, courtesy of the Sun!

Thus we have a case where the Creationist, using pseudo-science and taking the laws governing heat flow and work out of context, LOSES ON HIS OWN GROUND!

Once again, the Creationist loses. This time - twice over!

My Synthese essay has finally been published [paywall], in which I argue that on the basis of the more realistic notion of rationality devised by Herbert Simon, called “bounded rationality”, certain heuristics are liable to lead people to rationally choose to believe in creationism under the right conditions. It’s a conceptual developmentalist perspective. Here’s the abstract:

Creationism is usually regarded as an irrational set of beliefs. In this paper I propose that the best way to understand why individual learners settle on any mature set of beliefs is to see that as the developmental outcome of a series of â??fast and frugalâ?? boundedly rational inferences rather than as a rejection of reason. This applies to those whose views are opposed to science in general. A bounded rationality model of belief choices both serves to explain the fact that folk traditions tend to converge on â??anti-modernityâ??, and to act as a default hypothesis, deviations from which we can use to identify other, arational, influences such as social psychological, economic and individual dispositions. I propose some educational and public policy strategies that might decrease the proportion of learners who find creationism and anti-science in general a rational choice.

It’s Online First at Springer for now.

What Are Creationists Afraid Of?
by Edward Hudgins

Fall, 2005 – This year marks the eightieth anniversary of the 1925 trial of John Scopes, who was accused of violating Tennesseeâ??s prohibition on teaching Charles Darwinâ??s theory of the evolution of species. Prosecutor William Jennings Bryan, a three-time Democratic presidential candidate and Christian fundamentalist, squared off against famous defense attorney Clarence Darrow. Although the anti-Darwinians won that skirmish, they came off badly in court, looking like closed-minded bigots.

The Scopes â??monkey trialâ?? marked the birth of â??creationismâ??â??the doctrine that man and the universe were created out of nothing by some consciousness only a few thousand years ago, rather than by evolutionary processes taking millions of years. But in its 1987 Edwards v. Aguillard decision, the U.S. Supreme Court found creationism to be a religious belief and banned its teaching in public schools, seemingly once and for all, as a violation of the separation of church and state.

Now the war between creationism and evolution has flared up again, and old-fashioned Bible literalists are enjoying a resurgence. As just one indicator, a $25 million, 50,000-square-foot Creation Museum opened recently in Petersburg, Kentucky. Its exhibits proclaim that Man is only 6,000 years old, and that dinosaurs rode as passengers on Noahâ??s ark.

Most of todayâ??s controversies, however, center on those who want to have â??intelligent designâ?? taught in schools as science. A high-profile legal battle currently rages over a Dover, Pennsylvania, school board requirement that science teachers read a four-paragraph statement in class calling Darwinâ??s science into question and offering intelligent design as an alternative. One high school physics teacher in that jurisdiction complains of pressure from school board members not to â??teach monkeys-to-man evolution.â?? Even President Bush has jumped into the fray, suggesting that intelligent design should be taught in schools along with Darwin.

Advocates of this belief claim that the structure of the universe and human beings is too complex to have arisen naturally and thus had to have a â??designer.â?? They maintain that their beliefs are not religion but just another rational explanation of human origins, and therefore should be taught in science classes. Some of its advocates even maintain that science itself is a â??faithâ??; so if you can teach one faith in schools, why not others?

Pitted against these proponents are those who understand that all living thingsâ??including humansâ??evolved from lower life forms over millions of years. They answer the creationists by explaining the science of evolution, and by observing that creationists are really pushing a religious rather than a scientific belief.

There are important points that both sides in this debate must recognize. First, creationists must appreciate that their beliefs are notâ??in any way, shape, or formâ??science. Science entails a rational method for acquiring knowledge, and the creationists are disingenuous if they maintain that their faith-based beliefs should be taught in classes as part of biology, geology, or any other such discipline.

Second, those who take a rational approach to knowledge must understand that deep moral concerns motivate many creationists, and that these concerns should be addressed. They fear that if humans are merely animals produced by material processes, then there is no firm foundation for ethics; indeed, some see the social breakdown around them resulting in part from the teachings of Darwin. Since they reject moral relativism, they believe they must reject evolution. Thus, they find themselves attracted to convoluted and unconvincing critiques of science, and looking to mandates from God to supply humans with a moral code.

Creationists are right to reject moral relativism, but they are fundamentally mistaken about the nature of morality. Indeed, their beliefs ultimately undermine it. What they must grasp is that with the proper understanding of the foundations of ethics, they can have both morality and science.

To begin, we must define clearly what science actually is, and what should be taught in schools as science.

Science Is Not a Faith

Science is not simply a set of beliefs. Rather, it is the chief method human beings use to acquire knowledge of the physical world.

We observe interesting phenomena. The moon goes through phases and changes position in the sky. The temperature, precipitation, and length of day and night change over a 365-day period. Lightning flashes overhead, and rain falls. Why?

Using the scientific approach, we put forward theories that attempt to explain the causes of these phenomena and to predict other facts. We then test those theories, seeking facts that might prove orâ??just as importantâ??disprove them. In light of new facts we reject a theory, accept it, or, more often than not, amend and refine it. Science is a self-correcting methodology.

On a voyage around the world, Charles Darwin observed how different animals showed variations in their attributes that allowed them to fit into certain environmental niches. On the basis of mountains of observations he speculated that over long periods of timeâ??perhaps millions of yearsâ??the characteristics of living things change. Some changes help certain organisms to survive better, and they produce offspring with the same features. Other changes put other organisms at a disadvantage, and they die out.

This theory predicts that we should find very old fossils of life forms that no longer exist, as well as fossils of intermediate forms of life between those old ones and live ones that still bloom, swim, walk, or fly today. Sure enough, we find hundreds of fossilized dinosaur skeletons and fossils of intermediate creaturesâ??for example, the archaeopteryx, between dinosaurs and modern birds.

But most dramatically, we find hundreds of bones of creatures that are clearly not modern humans but are fundamentally different from apes and other simians. They had bigger brains than monkeys and skeletons that indicate they walked upright. There are handmade rock tools and fire-burnt sites associated with their fossils, too.

The hard-won knowledge from other sciences supports these findings. Biology shows us that genetic mutation was the mechanism that changed the physical characteristics of living things, and it also shows us in great detail exactly how humans are related to modern primates. Geology tells us that it takes millions of years for the physical features of our planet to change. Physics tells us how to date rocks based on radioactive isotopes found in them. Thus, we can accurately date the pre-human fossils that we find.

For example, from the fossils of more than three hundred individuals we find that Australopithecus afarensis lived 3 to 4 million years ago, stood upright, but still had a small brain, closer in size to an apeâ??s. Homo ergaster lived about 1.6 million years ago, had a far larger brain (though still smaller than those of modern humans), and had more extensive tool technology. By such means paleontologists trace the human family tree back three hundred thousand generations.

There is no serious disagreement among scientists about whether humans evolved. Rather, their questions concern, for example, whether evolution was smooth or occurred in swifter, punctuated bursts of change, or whether certain species led directly to humans or were dead-end creatures that died out.

Design Flaws in Creationism

Creationists manifestly do not follow this scientific methodology to come to their beliefs. They simply assert that humans were created pretty much in our current state only a few tens of thousands of years ago, and they then pick away at some of the open questions of paleontology. Their starting points in fact are religious texts. If they are honest at all, they will acknowledge that their beliefs about human origins are part of their religious convictionsâ??matters of faith, not scienceâ??and so they will not insist that those beliefs be taught as science or as a challenge to science. By what standard could they mount such a challenge? There is no epistemological equivalence between the assertions of creationists and knowledge acquired through the scientific method.

The advocates of intelligent design fare little better. Their argument amounts to: Weâ??re amazed at how intricate, complex, and well-integrated the universe is in general and humans are in particular. This couldnâ??t have happened by chance evolution. While humans perhaps did evolve, some designer must have been guiding the process.

This is an old argument in new clothing, one that might qualify as an attempt at philosophy but certainly not at science.

First, intelligent design by its nature is a belief based on religion, not science. Who is the designer? A human? Canâ??t beâ??weâ??re the ones being designed. Aliens from other worlds? Not metaphysically impossible, but, again, weâ??ve got no evidence for that whatsoever. Well, then, the designer must beâ??you guessed itâ??a divine entity. A god.

Second, if we are awed at the complexity of humans, how much more awed should we be at the complexity of our omnipotent designer? If complexity requires explanation, we might rightly ask, â??Who designed the designer?â?? The answer from intelligent design proponents is always, â??He/she/it didnâ??t need one. God always was.â?? Oh? Then why not conclude the same thing about the universeâ??the natural world and its processes?

Third, complexity does not imply â??design.â?? One of Adam Smithâ??s most powerful insights, developed further by Friedrich Hayek, is that incredible complexity can emerge in society without a designer or planner, through â??spontaneous order.â?? Hayek showed how in a free market the complex processes of producing and distributing goods and services to millions of individuals do not require socialist planners. Rather, individuals pursuing their own self-interest in a system governed by a few basic rulesâ??property rights, voluntary exchange by contractâ??have produced all the vast riches of the Western world.

Many creationists who are on the political Right understand the logic of this insight with respect to economic complexity. Why, then, is it such a stretch for them to appreciate that the complexity we find in the physical worldâ??the optic nerve, for exampleâ??can emerge over millions of years under the rule of natural laws that govern genetic mutations and the adaptability of life forms to changing environments? It is certainly curious that many conservative creationists do not appreciate that the same insights that show the futility of a state-designed economy also show the irrelevance of an â??intelligently designedâ?? universe.

It is also strange to see conservative creationists adopting a policy practice that was central to Stalinist Russia.

Trofim Lysenko was a Soviet pseudo-scientist who rejected the Darwinian insight that evolution occurs through genetic mutation. He believedâ??with the earlier, discredited theorist Jean-Baptiste Lamarckâ??that living creatures can, in effect, simply will their evolutionary change. For example, as the environment changes and there are fewer low-hanging leaves, short-necked critters stretch their necks to reach leaves higher on the trees. Over time these critters will themselves, in effect, into becoming giraffes.

Communist doctrine held a similar view of the evolution of human nature. Communism is, of course, contrary to human natureâ??most of us look out for ourselves rather than contently sacrificing for the â??common good.â?? But the Reds thought that by changing our political-economic environment, we could simply will a change in our nature to make us into post-capitalistic, altruistic, socialistic men.

Scientific evidence did not support this belief, but the Bolsheviks did; so they mandated that this ideological article of faith be taught in schools, and they simultaneously repressed the critical, empirical approach to biology.

Anti-communist creationists certainly have disagreements with Darwin that are different than Lysenkoâ??s. But creationists also hold beliefs based on ideology rather than the scientific process and wish to foist those beliefs onto the science curricula by power of law. No, they are no longer pushing to ban the teaching of evolution from classrooms, as did their predecessors in many states, including John Scopeâ??s Tennessee. But their political pressure has had a chilling effect on textbook publishers and teachers, making them reluctant to openly discuss the purely rational pursuit of knowledge.

Evolution: A Communist Plot?

Yet another fear causes creationists to reject the findings of science.

Many early proponents of science and evolution were on the political Left. For example, the Humanist Manifesto of 1933 affirmed support for evolution and the scientific approach. But its article fourteen stated: â??The humanists are firmly convinced that existing acquisitive and profit-motivated society has shown itself to be inadequate and that a radical change in methods, controls, and motives must be instituted. A socialized and cooperative economic order must be established to the end that the equitable distribution of the means of life be possible.â??

Subsequent humanist manifestos in 1973 and 2000 went lighter on the explicit socialism but still endorsed, along with a critical approach to knowledge, the kind of welfare-state democracy and internationalism rejected by conservatives. The unfortunate historical association of science and socialism is based in part on the erroneous conviction that if humans can use scientific knowledge to design machines and technology, why not an entire economy?

Further, many supporters of evolution were or appeared to be value-relativists or subjectivists. For example, Clarence Darrow, who defended Scopes in the â??monkey trialâ?? eight decades ago, also defended Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb. These two young amoralists pictured themselves as supermen above conventional morality; they decided to commit the perfect crime and killed a fourteen-year-old boy. Darrow offered the jury the standard liberal excuses for the atrocity. He argued that the killers were under the influence of Nietzschean philosophy, and that to give them the death penalty would hurt their surviving families. â??I am pleading for life, understanding, charity, kindness, and the infinite mercy that considers all,â?? he said. â??I am pleading that we overcome cruelty with kindness and hatred with love.â?? This is the sort of abrogation of personal responsibility, denial of moral culpability, and rejection of the principle of justice that offends religious conservativesâ??in fact, every moral individual, religious or atheist.

In addition, nearly all agnostics and atheists accept the validity of evolution. Creationists, as religious fundamentalists, therefore see evolution and atheism tied together to destroy the basis of morality. For one thing, evolution seems to erase the distinction between humans and animals. Animals are driven by instincts; they are not responsible for their actions. So we donâ??t blame cats for killing mice, lions for killing antelope, or orca whales for killing seals. Itâ??s what they do. They follow instincts to satisfy urges to eat and procreate. But if human beings evolved from lower animals, then we might be merely animalsâ??and so there would be no basis for morality. In which case, anything goes.

To religious fundamentalists, then, agnostics and atheists must be value-relativists and subjectivists. Whether they accept evolution because they reject a belief in God, or reject a belief in God because they accept evolution, is immaterial: the two beliefs are associated, just as are creationism and theism. By this view, the only firm basis for morality is the divine edicts of a god.

This reflects the creationistsâ?? fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of morality.

Morality from Manâ??s Nature

We humans are what we are today regardless of whether we evolved, were created, or were intelligently designed. We have certain characteristics that define our nature.

We are Homo sapiens. Unlike lower animals, we have a rational capacity, an ability to fully, conceptually understand the world around us. We are self-conscious. We are the animal that knowsâ??and knows that he knows. We do not survive automatically, by instinct, but must exercise the virtue of rationality. We must think. We must discover how to acquire foodâ??through hunting or plantingâ??how to make shelters, how to invent medicines. And to acquire such knowledge, we must adopt a rational methodology: science.

Furthermore, our thinking does not occur automatically. We have free will and must choose to think, to focus our minds, to be honest rather than to evade facts that make us uncomfortableâ??evolution, for exampleâ??because reality is what it is, whether we like it or acknowledge it or not.

But we humans do not exercise our minds and our wills for mere physical survival. We have a capacity for a joy and flourishing far beyond the mere sensual pleasures experienced by lower animals. Such happiness comes from planning our long-term goals, challenging ourselves, calling on the best within us, and achieving those goalsâ??whether we seek to nurture a business to profitability or a child to adulthood, whether we seek to create a poem or a business plan, whether we seek to design a building or to lay the bricks for its foundation.

But our most important creation is our moral character, the habits and attitudes that govern our actions. A good character helps us to be happy, a bad one guarantees us misery. And what guides us in creating such a character? What tells us how we should deal with our fellow humans?

A code of values, derived from our nature and requirements as rational, responsible creatures possessing free will.

We need not fear that with evolution, or without a god, there is no basis for ethics. There is an objective basis for ethics, but it does not reside in the heavens. It arises from our own human nature and its objective requirements.

Creationists and advocates of intelligent design come to their beliefs in part through honest errors and in part from evasions of facts and close-minded dogmatism. But we should appreciate that one of their motivations might be a proper rejection of value-relativism, and a mistaken belief that acceptance of divine revelation is the only moral alternative.

If we can demonstrate to them that the basis for ethics lies in our nature as rational, volitional creatures, then perhaps we can also reassure them that men can indeed have moralityâ??yet never fear to use that wondrous capacity which allows us to understand our own origins, the world around us, and the moral nature within us.

Edward Hudgins is the Executive Director of The Objectivist Center.

So now, after having copied and pasted walls of text and even a picture, I think the Theorie of Evolution has been proved beyond any doubt.

I am a bit disadvantaged though because “are creationists insane” only gets you so many google hits.

In the beginning there was the void. And the void was called Ginnungagap. What does Ginnungagap mean? Yawning gap, beginning gap, gap with magical potential, mighty gap; these are a few of the educated guesses. Along with the void existed Niflheim the land of fog and ice in the north and Muspelheim the land of fire in the south. There seems to be a bit of confusion as to whether or not these existed after Ginnungagap or along side of it from the beginning.

In Niflheim was a spring called Hvergelmir from which the Elivagar (eleven rivers - Svol, Gunnthra, Fiorm, Fimbulthul, Slidr, Hrid, Sylg, Ylg, Vid, Leiptr, and Gioll) flowed. The Elivargar froze layer upon layer until it filled in the northerly portion of the gap. Concurrently the southern portion was being filled by sparks and molten material from Muspelheim.

The mix of fire and ice caused part of the Elivagar to melt forming the figures Ymir the primeval giant and the cow Audhumla. The cow’s milk was Ymir’s food. While Ymir slept his under arm sweat begat two frost giants, one male one female, while his two legs begat another male.

While Ymir was busy procreating Audhumla was busy eating. Her nourishment came from licking the salty ice. Her incessant licking formed the god Buri. He had a son named Bor who was the father of Odin, Vili, and Ve.

For some reason the sons of Bor decided to kill poor Ymir. His blood caused a flood which killed all of the frost giants except for two, Bergelmir and his wife, who escaped the deluge in their boat.

Odin, Vili, and Ve put Ymir’s corpse into the middle of ginnungagap and created the earth and sky from it. They also created the stars, sun, and moon from sparks coming out of Muspelheim.

Finally, the brothers happened upon two logs lying on the beach and created the first two humans Ask [Ash] and Embla [vine?] from them.

The Navajo were given the name Niâ??hookaa Diyan Diné by their creators. It means “Holy Earth People” or “Lords of the Earth”. Navajos today simply call themselves “Diné”, meaning “The People”. The Tewa Indians were the first to call them “Navahu”, which means “the large area of cultivated land”. The Mexicans knew them as “Apaches Du Nabahu” (Apaches of the Cultivated Fields), where “Apache” (Enemy) was picked up from the Zuni Indian language.

The “Apaches Du Nabahu” were known as a special group somewhat distinct from the rest of the Apaches. Alonso de Benavides changed the name to “Navaho” in a book written in 1630. The English name the Diné officially use for themselves is “Navajo”. Recently, Navajos have been referring to call themselves by their original name, “Diné”.

According to the Diné, they emerged from three previous underworlds into this, the fourth, or “Glittering World”, through a magic reed. The first people from the other three worlds were not like the people of today. They were animals, insects or masked spirits as depicted in Navajo ceremonies. First Man ('Altsé Hastiin), and First Woman ('Altsé 'Asdzáá), were two of the beings from the First or Black World. First Man was made in the east from the meeting of the white and black clouds. First Woman was made in the west from the joining of the yellow and blue clouds. Spider Woman (Na ashjeâ??ii 'Asdzáá), who taught Navajo women how to weave, was also from the first world.

Once in the Glittering World, the first thing the people did was build a sweat house and sing the Blessing Song. Then they met in the first house (hogan) made exactly as Talking God (Haashchâ??eeltiâ??i) had prescribed. In this hogan, the people began to arrange their world, naming the four sacred mountains surrounding the land and designating the four sacred stones that would become the boundaries of their homeland.

In actuality, these mountains do not contain the symbolic sacred stones. The San Francisco Peaks (Dookâ??oâ??oslííd), represents the Abalone and Coral stones. It is located just north of Flagstaff, and is the Navajoâ??s religious western boundary. Mt. Blanco (Tsisnaasjini’), in Colorado, represents the White Shell stone, and represents the Navajoâ??s religious eastern boundary. Mt. Taylor (Tsoodzil), east of Grants, New Mexico, represents the Turquoise stone, and represents the Navajoâ??s religious southern boundary. Mt. Hesperus (Dibé Nitsaa), in Colorado, represents the Black Jet stone, and represents the Navajoâ??s religious northern boundary. Pictures of these sacred mountains can be found by clicking here.

After setting the mountains down where they should go, the Navajo deities, or “Holy People”, put the sun and the moon into the sky and were in the process of carefully placing the stars in an orderly way. But the Coyote, known as the trickster, grew impatient from the long deliberations being held, and seized the corner of the blanket where it lay and flung the remaining stars into the sky.

The Holy People continued to make the necessities of life, like clouds, trees and rain. Everything was as it should be when the evil monsters appeared and began to kill the new Earth People. But a miracle happened to save them, by the birth of Ever Changing Woman (Asdzaa Nadleehe) at Gobernador Knob (Châ??óolâ??íâ??í), New Mexico.

Changing Woman grew up around El Huerfano Mesa (Dzil Naâ??oodilii), in northern New Mexico. She married the Sun and bore two son, twins, and heroes to the Navajo people. They were known as “Monster Slayer” and “Child-Born-of-Water”. The twins traveled to their father the Sun who gave them weapons of lighting bolts to fight the dreaded monsters.

Every place the Hero Twins killed a monster it turned to stone. An example of this is the lave flows near Mt. Taylor in New Mexico, believed to be the blood from the death of Yeâ??iitsoh, or the “Monster who Sucked in People”. All of the angular rock formations on the reservation, such as the immense Black Mesa (Dzil Yíjiin), are seen as the turned-to-stone bodies of the monsters.

With all of the monsters dead, the Navajo deities, or “Holy People”, turned their attention to the making of the four original clans. Kiiyaa aanii, or Tall House People, was the first clan. They were made of yellow and white corn. Eventually other clans traveled to the area round the San Juan River, bring their important contributions to the tribe. Some were Paiutes who brought their beautiful baskets. Others were Pueblos who shared their farming and weaving skills. Still others were Utes and Apaches.

For her husband, the “Sun”, to visit her every evening, Changing Woman went to live in the western sea on an island made of rock crystal. Her home was made of the four sacred stones: Abalone, White Shell, Turquoise, and Black Jet. During the day she became lonely and decided to make her own people. She made four clans from the flakes of her skin. These were known as the Near Water People, Mud People, Salt Water People, and Bitter Water People. When these newly formed clans heard that there were humans to the east who shared their heritage, they wanted to go meet them.

Changing Woman gave her permission for them to travel from the western sea to the San Francisco Peaks. They then traveled through the Hopi mesas where they left porcupine, still commonly found there today. Then they traveled toward the Chuska Mountains and on to Mt. Taylor. Finally, the people arrived at Dinetah, the Diné traditional homeland, and joined the other clans already living there. Dinetah is located in the many canyons that drain the San Juan River about 30 miles east of Farmington, New Mexico.

In the beginning , the heavens and earth were still one and all was chaos. The universe was like a big black egg, carrying Pan Gu inside itself. After 18 thousand years Pan Gu woke from a long sleep. He felt suffocated, so he took up a broadax and wielded it with all his might to crack open the egg. The light, clear part of it floated up and formed the heavens, the cold, turbid matter stayed below to form earth.

Pan Gu stood in the middle, his head touching the sky, his feet planted on the earth. The heavens and the earth began to grow at a rate of ten feet per day, and Pan Gu grew along with them. After another 18 thousand years, the sky was higher, the earth thicker, and Pan Gu stood between them like a pillar 9 million li in height so that they would never join again.

When Pan Gu died, his breath became the wind and clouds, his voice the rolling thunder. One eye became the sun and on the moon. His body and limbs turned to five big mountains and his blood formed the roaring water. His veins became far-stretching roads and his muscles fertile land. The innumerable stars in the sky came from his hair and beard, and flowers and trees from his skin and the fine hairs on his body. His marrow turned to jade and pearls. His sweat flowed like the good rain and sweet dew that nurtured all things on earth.

According to some versions of the Pan Gu legend, his tears flowed to make rivers and radiance of his eyes turned into thunder and lighting. When he was happy the sun shone, but when he was angry black clouds gathered in the sky. One version of the legend has it that the fleas and lice on his body became the ancestors of mankind.

The Pan Gu story has become firmly fixed in Chinese tradition. There is even an idiom relating to it: “Since Pan Gu created earth and the heavens,” meaning “for a very long time.” Nevertheless, it is rather a latecomer to the catalog of Chinese legends. First mention of it is in a book on Chinese myths written by Xu Zheng in the Three Kingdoms period (CE 220-265). Some opinions hold that it originated in south China or southeast Asia.

There are several versions of the Pan Gu story.

Among the Miao, Yao, Li and other nationalities of south China, a legend concerns Pan Gu the ancestor of all mankind, with a man’s body and a dog’s head. It runs like this: Up in Heaven the God in charge of the earth, King Gao Xin, owned a beautiful spotted dog. He reared him on a plate (pan in Chinese ) inside a gourd (hu, which is close to the sound gu ), so the dog was known as Pan Gu . Among the Gods there was great enmity between King Gao Xin and his rival King Fang. "Whoever can bring me the head of King Fang may marry my daughter, " he proclaimed, but nobody was willing to try because they were afraid of King Fang’s strong soldiers and sturdy horses.

The dog Pan Gu overheard what was said, and when Gao Xin was sleeping, slipped out of the palace and ran to King Fang. The latter was glad to see him standing there wagging his tail. “You see, King Gao Xin is near his end. Even his dog has left him,” Fang said, and held a banquet for the occasion with the dog at his side.

At midnight when all was quiet and Fang was overcome with drink, Pan Gu jumped onto the king’s bed, bit off his head and ran back to his master with it . King Gao Xin was overjoyed to see the head of his rival, and gave orders to bring Pan Gu some fresh meat. But Pan Gu left the meat untouched and curled himself up in a corner to sleep. For three days he ate nothing and did not stir.

The king was puzzled and asked, “Why don’t you eat? Is it because I failed to keep my promise of marrying a dog?” To his surprise Pan Gu began to speak. “Don’t worry, my King. Just cover me with your golden bell and in seven days and seven nights I’ll become a man.” The King did as he said, but on the sixth day, fearing he would starve to death, out of solicitude the princess peeped under the bell. Pan Gu’s body had already changed into that of a man, but his head was still that of a dog. However, once the bell was raised, the magic change stopped, and he had to remain a man with a dog’s head.

He married the princess, but she didn’t want to be seen with such a man so they moved to the earth and settled in the remote mountains of south China. There they lived happily and had four children, three boys and a girl, who became the ancestors of mankind.

Io is known as the Supreme Being and ex nihilo (out of nothing) creator of the entire universe. He creates Ranginui (Rangi) and Papatuanuku (Papa), Sky Father and the Earth Mother, respectively. The sky and earth produce numerous offspring while they are physically, â??cleaved together in a procreative embrace.â?? The children are forced to live in the darkness since their parents block all the rays from the sun.

They soon become restless and worn out from the living conditions and gather to question whether to separate their parents or to kill them for more room and light.
The fiercest of the offspring, Tumatauenga (Tuma) voices his opinion for death, while Tanemahuta (Tane) wishes to just separate the mother and father so that the earth will â??remain close as our nursing mother.â?? Most of the sons, including Tuma, finally agree with the plan for separation with a major dissenting vote from only one sibling, Tawhirimatea. As the guardian of winds and storms, he fears that his kingdom will be overthrown if the parents are torn apart. In the minority, Tawhirimatea remains silent and holds his breath.

 The children begin to divide Rangi and Papa, and they soon realize their task is very difficult to accomplish. After many siblings attempt to separate the parents, Tane finally succeeds as he places his shoulders against the earth and his feet against the sky. He pushes slowly with both his upper and lower body with great strain. â??Soon, and yet not soon, for the time was vast, the Sky and Earth began to yield.â?? The Earth Mother and Sky Father bleed and this gives rise to ochre (red clay), the sacred color of the Maoris. 

As the parents cry out for Tuma to stop, he only presses on harder. Sky Father and Earth Motherâ??s blood spills on his head, known as the kokowai, the sacred red earth that is created when the first blood spills at the dawn of time. Now that the separation is complete, there is a clearly defined sky and earth.

One of the offspring, Urutengangana, states that there is one element still missing, and he urges his siblings to find the female element, ira tangata, to enable the creation of woman. The search spans both land and sea, and Tane finally consults his mother, Papa, for her advice and knowledge. The earth takes pity on Tane and tells him to search an area named Kura-waka. Tane returns to his siblings with the new insight and they travel to the location. The children find the element in the Earth and dig it out to contribute in the creation of woman and her form. The elder siblings shape the body and the younger siblings add the flesh, fat, muscles, and blood. Tane then breathes life into it, and creates Hine-ahu-one, the earth formed maiden.

 This overview of the Maori creation story gives a broad insight into their culture and traditions. The physical landscape is mentioned numerous times with the Sky Father and the Earth Mother. The Maoris have a deep cultural and spiritual relationship with the entire landscape of New Zealand that goes back hundreds of years. As an indigenous culture, many activities are centered on tribes, sub-tribes, and extended family units. The relationship between land and family is important as it plays a major role in their everyday lives.

 The creation myth also heavily emphasizes elements of nature such as wind and water. It is not surprising that most Maori settlements are near coastal terraces. Fishing in freshwater environments is a significant part of Maori culture and is one of the major sources of food. To further explain natural phenomenon such as raining and dew in the morning, the creation myth references the separation of the sky and earth. Even apart, Rangi and Papa love each other so much that the father briefly floods parts of the land with an immense amount of tears. Some of the children decide to turn their mother over so that she and Rangi will not have to see one anotherâ??s grief and grieving. 

The act of rotating the earth is called Te Hurihanga a Mataaho, the overturning of Mataaho. The event is named after the child that saw the rotation occur. After the turning, Rangiâ??s tears are less copious than before, and now they are the dew drops that form in the night on Papaâ??s back (the earthâ??s surface). â??The morning mists that form in the valleys are her sighs.â??

 The overall creation myth of the Maori culture has similar elements to the Enuma Elish, the Babylonian creation epic. Marduk is commissioned to fight Tiamat, â??the mother who bore them all,â?? just as Tuma is chosen to separate his parents. Both accounts shed blood, describe raw violence, and end with the younger generation defeating the older rulers. Marduk physically slays Tiamat by slitting her heart, and Tuma metaphorically kills his parents by pushing them apart forever. 

Another comparison between the stories is how humankind is created by taking another element and transforming it into a human being. Individuals are created from the blood of the defeated general, Qingu. In the Maori myth, elements from the Earth are used to create woman.

 The establishment of Io, the Supreme Being, in the Maori creation myth is either mentioned very briefly or not at all. Therefore, his existence is ambiguous and mysterious. A similar account can be examined in the Hymns from the Rig Veda. â??In the beginning was darkness swathed in darkness; / All this was but unmanifested water/ Whatever was, that One, coming into being.â?? Both stories are unclear as to who was truly the first creator, and how did this person come into being. In this essence, both originators are ex nihilo individuals.

 The Maori creation myth has two major parts. First, it describes the Earth Mother and Sky Father procreating many children that eventually separate their parents due to a lack of space. Then, the story concludes with the making of â??the earth formed maidenâ?? from elements of the earth (clay) and work by many children to add life. It is implied that all Maoris are descendants of this first woman and the male offspring of the Earth Mother and Sky Father. 

Within the myth, some themes and events can be paralleled to other creation stories from around the world such as the Enuma Elish or Hymns from the Rig Veda. However, the distinctive traditions and elements in the Maori creation myth come together and make this story exclusive to their own culture.

In the beginning there were only two: Tawa, the Sun God, and Spider Woman, the Earth Goddess. All the mysteries and power in the Above belonged to Tawa, while Spider Woman controlled the magic of the Below. In the Underworld, abode of the Gods, they dwelt and they were All. There was neither man nor woman, bird nor beast, no living thing until these Two willed it to be.

In time it came to them that there should be other Gods to share their labors. So Tawa divided himself and there came Muiyinwuh, God of All Life Germs; Spider Woman also divide herself so that there was Huzruiwuhti, Woman of the Hard Substances, the Goddess of all hard ornaments of wealth such as coral, turquoise, silver and shell. Huzruiwuhti became the always-bride of Tawa. They were the First Lovers and of their union there came into being those marvelous ones the Magic Twins – Puukonhoya, the Youth, and Palunhoya, the Echo. As time unrolled there followed Hicanavaiya, Ancient of Six (the Four World Quarters, the Above and Below), Man-Eagle, the Great Plumed Serpent and many others. But Masauwhu, the Death God, did not come of these Two but was bad magic, who appeared only after the making of creatures.

And then it came about that these Two had one Thought and it was a might Thought – that they would make the Earth to be between the Above and the Below where now lay shimmering only the Endless Waters. So they sat them side by side, swaying their beautiful bronze bodies to the pulsing music of their own great voices, making the First Magic Song, a song of rushing winds and flowing waters, a song of light and sound and life.

“I am Tawa,” sang the Sun God. “I am Light. I am Life. I am Father of all that shall ever come.”

“I am Kokyanwuhti,” the Spider Woman crooned. “I receive Light and nourish Life. I am Mother of all that shall ever come.”

“Many strange thoughts are forming in my mind – beautiful forms of birds to float in the Above, of beasts to move upon the Earth and fish to swim in the Waters,” intoned Tawa.

“Now let these things that move in the Though of Tawa appear,” chanted Spider Woman, while with her slender fingers she caught up clay from beside her and made the Thoughts of Tawa take form. One by one she shaped them and laid them aside – but they breathed not nor moved.

“We must do something about this,” said Tawa. “It is not good that they lie thus still and quiet. Each thing that has a form must also have a spirit. So now, my beloved, we must make a mighty Magic.”

They laid a white blanket over the many figures, a cunningly woven woolen blanket, fleecy as a cloud, and made a mighty incantation over it, and soon the figures stirred and breathed.

“Now, let us make ones like unto you and me, so that they may rule over and enjoy these lesser creatures,” sang Tawa, and Spider Woman shaped the Thoughts into woman and man figures like unto their own. But after the blanket magic had been made, the figures remained inert. So Spider Woman gathered them all in her arms and cradled them, while Tawa bent his glowing eyes upon them. The two now sang the magic Song of Life over them, and at last each human figure breathed and lived.

“Now that was a good thing and a mighty thing,” said Tawa. “So now all this is finished, and there shall be no new things made by us. Those things we have made shall multiply. I will make a journey across the Above each day to shed my light upon them and return each night to Huzruiwuhti. And now I shall go to turn my blazing shield upon the Endless Waters, so that the Dry Land may appear. And this day will be the first day upon Earth.”

“Now I shall lead all these created beings to the land that you shall cause to appear above the waters,” said Spider Woman. Then Tawa took down his burnished shield from the turquoise wall of the kiva and swiftly mounted his glorious was to the Above. After Spider Woman had bent her wise, all-seeing eyes upon the thronging creatures about her, she wound her way among them, separating them into groups.

“Thus and thus shall you be and thus shall you remain, each one in her own tribe forever. You are Zunis, you are Kohoninos, you are Pah-Utes…” The Hopis, all, all people were named by Kokyanwuhti then.

Placing her Magic Twins beside her, Spider Woman called all the people to follow where she led. Through all the Four Great Caverns of the Underworld she led them until they finally came to an opening, a sipapu, which led above. This came out at the lowest depth of the Pisisbaiya (the Colorado River) and was the place where the people were to come to gather salt. So lately had the Endless Waters gone down that the Turkey, Koyona, pushing early ahead, dragged its tail feathers in the black mud where the dark bands were to remain forever.

Mourning Dove flew overhead, calling to some to follow, and those who followed where his sharp eyes had spied out springs and built beside them were called “Huwinyamu” after him. So Spider Woman chose a creature to lead each clan to a place to build their house. The Puma, the Snake, the Antelope, the Deer, and other Horn creatures, each led a clan to a place to build their house. Each clan henceforth bore the name of the creature who had led them.

The Spider Woman spoke to them thus: “The woman of the clan shall build the house, and the family name shall descend through her. She shall be house builder and homemaker. She shall mold the jars for the storing of food and water. She shall grind the grain for food and tenderly rear and teach the young. The man of the clan shall build kivas of stone under the ground. In these kivas the man shall make sand pictures as altars. Of colored sand shall he make them, and they shall be called ‘ponya.’ The man too shall weave the clan blankets with their proper symbols. The man shall fashion himself weapons and furnish his family with game.”

Stooping down, she gathered some sand in her hand, letting it run out in a thin, continuous stream. “See the movement of the sand? That is the life that will cause all things therein to grow. The Great Plumed Serpent, Lightning, will rear and strike the earth to fertilize it; Rain Cloud will pour down waters, and Tawa will smile upon it so that green things will spring up to feed my children.”

Her eyes now sought the Above where Tawa was descending toward his western kiva in all the glory of red and gold. “I go now, but have no fear, for we Two will be watching over you. Look upon me now, my children, ere I leave. Obey the words I have given you, and all will be well. If you are in need of help, call upon me, and I will send my sons to your aid.”

The people gazed wide-eyed upon her shining beauty. Her woven upper garment of soft white wool hung tunic-wise over a blue skirt. On its left side was woven a band bearing the Butterfly and Squash Blossom, in designs of red and yellow and green with bands of black appearing in between. Her neck was hung with heavy necklaces of turquoise, shell and coral, and pendants of the same hung from her ears. Her face was fair, with warm eyes and tender lips, and her form most graceful.

Upon her feet were skin boots of gleaming white, and they now turned toward where the sand spun about in whirlpool fashion. She held up her right hand and smiled upon them, then stepped upon the whirling sand. Wonder of wonders, before their eyes the sands seemed to suck her swiftly down until she disappeared entirely from their sight.

n the beginning, the world was nothing but a quagmire. Nothing could live there. But in the six skies above and in the six worlds below dwelled Gods, demons, and animals.

In the foggy and hanging skies of the lower heavens, demons lived. In the star-bearing and high skies of the clouds lived the lesser Gods. In the skies of the most high lived Kamui, the creator God, and his servants. His realm was surrounded by a mighty metal wall and the only entrance was through a great iron gate.

Kamui made this world as a vast round ocean resting on the backbone of an enormous trout. This fish sucks in the ocean and spits it out again to make the tides; when it moves it causes earthquakes.

One day Kamui looked down on the watery world and decided to make something of it. He sent down a water wagtail to do the work. When the poor bird arrived and saw what a mess everything was in, it was at its wit’s end to know what to do. However, by fluttering over the waters with its wings and by trampling the sand with its feet and beating it with its tail, the wagtail at last created patches of dry land. In this way islands were raised to float upon the ocean in this, the floating world. Even today, the faithful wagtail is still carrying on its work, still beating the ground with its tail.

When Kamui created the world, the devil tried to thwart him. One morning, the devil got up and lay in wait with his mouth gaping wide to swallow the sun. But Kamui sent a crow to fly down the devil’s throat and make him choke and cough. That is why the crow is such a bold bird. Because a crow once saved the world, all crows think they can act as they like, even stealing people’s food.

When the animals who lived up in the heavens saw how beautiful the world was, they begged Kamui to let them go and live on it, and he did. But Kamui also made many other creatures especially for the world. The first people, the Ainu, had bodies of earth, hair of chickweed, and spines made from sticks of willow. That is why when we grow old, our backs become bent.

Kamui sent Aioina, the divine man, down from heaven to teach the Ainu how to hunt and to cook. When Aioina returned to heaven after living among the people and teaching them many things, the Gods all held their noses, crying, “What a terrible smell of human being there is!”

They sniffed and sniffed to find out where the stink was coming from. At last they traced the smell to Aioina’s clothes. The Gods sent him back to earth and refused to let him back into heaven until he left all his clothes behind. Down in the floating world, Aioina’s cast-off sandals turned into the first squirrels.

The seeds of the Holy Sea break out of your shell.
The eternal sea’s waves are waving, and rolling.
Their waves are rocking and their foam is hissing.
There is no earth yet anywhere, but in the immeasurable heights,
Above in his golden house, sits the great heavenly father on his golden throne.

He is the old, white haired and white bearded God of eternity.
On his black robes there are thousands of sparkling stars.
Besides him sits his wife, the Great Heavenly Mother.
On her white robes (palast) there are thousands of sparkling stars.
She is the ancient material of which everything is made.
They have existed from eternity in the past and will exist for all eternity to come.

In front of them stands their beautiful golden sunbeam haired son,
The sun God Magyar. The boy asks of his father:
“When shall we create the world of the humans my dear father?”

The Eternal Sea just waves and rolls.
Its waves are rocking and its foam is hissing.
The old gray-haired heavenly father lowers his head .
He ponders the question a while and a little longer,
Then he lifts his white haired head and talks to his son.

– My dear sweet golden haired son, let us create then
For the humans their own world, so that they, who will be
Your children shall have a place to live in.

– How shall we create such a world, my dear father?

– This is the manner in which we can create it:
In the depths of the waving, blue Sea of Eternity are the
Sleeping eyes (seeds), sleeping seeds [sem=eye/small seed]
The sleeping Magya’s [ Mag=seed, Magyar=man].

Descend therefore to the depths of the Great Sea.
Bring up the sleeping seeds and dreaming eyes, so that
We can create a world out of them.

The son followed the direction of his father.
He turned himself into his image of a golden bird, into a golden diving duck.
Then he flew down to the expanses of the Endless Sea.

He swam for a while on top of the water,
Rocked by the waves of the sea for a while.
He then dived down into the depths of the blue,
Searching for the bottom, but unable to reach it.
Out of breath, he was forced to resurface.

He swam on top again, rocked by the waves,
He gathered his strength, for a long time.
After taking deep breaths he submerged again into the blue depths,
Diving deeper, into the darkness, slowly releasing his air
Which like vibrating pearls rose to the top and popped on the surface of the rolling sea.

However now his beak hit the bottom of the sea, into its sand.
He took some of it into his beak and like an arrow,
He shot up to the top of the water with it
From the surface of the sea bed, he brought up the
Sleeping eyes/seeds, silver white “ügyücske” [small eyes?].
The sleeping eyes awoke, the sleepy eyes opened and grew up and became living beings.

The Beginning of the World

Before the heavens and the earth came into existence, all was a chaos, unimaginably limitless and without definite shape or form. Eon followed eon: then, lo! out of this boundless, shapeless mass something light and transparent rose up and formed the heaven. This was the Plain of High Heaven, in which materialized a deity called Ame-no-Minaka-Nushi-no-Mikoto (the Deity-of-the-August-Center-of-Heaven). Next the heavens gave birth to a deity named Takami-Musubi-no-Mikoto (the High-August-Producing-Wondrous-Deity), followed by a third called Kammi-Musubi-no-Mikoto (the Divine-Producing-Wondrous-Deity). These three divine beings are called the Three Creating Deities.

In the meantime what was heavy and opaque in the void gradually precipitated and became the earth, but it had taken an immeasurably long time before it condensed sufficiently to form solid ground. In its earliest stages, for millions and millions of years, the earth may be said to have resembled oil floating, medusa-like, upon the face of the waters. Suddenly like the sprouting up of a reed, a pair of immortals were born from its bosom. These were the Deity Umashi-Ashi-Kahibi-Hikoji-no-Mikoto (the Pleasant-Reed-Shoot-Prince-Elder-Deity) and the Deity Ame-no-Tokotachi-no-Mikoto (The Heavenly-Eternally-Standing-Deity). . . .

Many gods were thus born in succession, and so they increased in number, but as long as the world remained in a chaotic state, there was nothing for them to do. Whereupon, all the Heavenly deities summoned the two divine beings, Izanagi and Izanami, and bade them descend to the nebulous place, and by helping each other, to consolidate it into terra firma. “We bestow on you,” they said, “this precious treasure, with which to rule the land, the creation of which we command you to perform.” So saying they handed them a spear called Ama-no-Nuboko, embellished with costly gems.

The divine couple received respectfully and ceremoniously the sacred weapon and then withdrew from the presence of the Deities, ready to perform their august commission. Proceeding forthwith to the Floating Bridge of Heaven, which lay between the heaven and the earth, they stood awhile to gaze on that which lay below. What they beheld was a world not yet condensed, but looking like a sea of filmy fog floating to and fro in the air, exhaling the while an inexpressibly fragrant odor. They were, at first, perplexed just how and where to start, but at length Izanagi suggested to his companion that they should try the effect of stirring up the brine with their spear. So saying he pushed down the jeweled shaft and found that it touched something.

Then drawing it up, he examined it and observed that the great drops which fell from it almost immediately coagulated into an island, which is, to this day, the Island of Onokoro. Delighted at the result, the two deities descended forthwith from the Floating Bridge to reach the miraculously created island. In this island they thenceforth dwelt and made it the basis of their subsequent task of creating a country. Then wishing to become espoused, they erected in the center oPound the island a pillar, the Heavenly August Pillar, and built around it a great palace called the Hall of Eight Fathoms.

Thereupon the male Deity turning to the left and the female Deity to the right, each went round the pillar in opposite directions. When they again met each other on the further side of the pillar, Izanami, the female Deity, speaking first, exclaimed: “How delightful it is to meet so handsome a youth!” To which Izanagi, the male Deity, replied: “How delightful I am to have fallen in with such a lovely maiden!” After having spoken thus, the male Deity said that it was not in order that woman should anticipate man in a greeting.

Nevertheless, they fell into connubial relationship, having been instructed by two wagtails which flew to the spot. Presently the Goddess bore her divine consort a son, but the baby was weak and boneless as a leech. Disgusted with it, they abandoned it on the waters, putting it in a boat made of reeds. Their second offspring was as disappointing as the first. The two Deities, now sorely disappointed at their failure and full of misgivings, ascended to Heaven to inquire of the Heavenly Deities the causes of their misfortunes. The latter performed the ceremony of divining and said to them: "It is the woman’s fault.

In turning round the Pillar, it was not right and proper that the female Deity should in speaking have taken precedence of the male. That is the reason." The two Deities saw the truth of this divine suggestion, and made up their minds to rectify the error. So, returning to the earth again, they went once more around the Heavenly Pillar. This time Izanagi spoke first saying: “How delightful to meet so beautiful a maiden!” “How happy I am,” responded Izanami, “that I should meet such a handsom youth!” This process was more appropriate and in accordance with the law of nature. After this, all the children born to them left nothing to be desired.

First, the island of Awaji was born, next, Shikoku, then, the island of Oki, followed by Kyushu; after that, the island Tsushima came into being, and lastly, Honshu, the main island of Japan. The name of Oyashi- ma-kuni (the Country of the Eight Great Islands) was given to these eight islands. After this, the two Deities became the parents of numerous smaller islands destined to surround the larger ones.

The Birth of the Deities

Having, thus, made a country from what had formerly been no more than a mere floating mass, the two Deities, Izanagi and Izanami, about begetting those deities destined to preside over the land, sea, mountains, rivers, trees, and herbs. Their first-born proved to be the sea-god, Owatatsumi-no-Kami. Next they gave birth to the patron gods of harbors, the male deity Kamihaya-akitsu-hiko having control of the land and the goddess Haya-akitsu-hime having control of the sea. These two latter deities subsequently gave birth to eight other gods.

Next Izanagi and Izanami gave birth to the wind-deity, Kami-Shinatsuhiko-no-Mikoto. At the moment of his birth, his breath was so potent that the clouds and mists, which had hung over the earth from the beginning of time, were immediately dispersed. In consequence, every corner of the world was filled with brightness. Kukunochi-no-Kami, the deity of trees, was the next to be born, followed by Oyamatsumi-no-Kami, the deity of mountains, and Kayanuhime-no-Kami, the goddess of the plains. . . .

The process of procreation had, so far, gone on happily, but at the birth of Kagutsuchi-no-Kami, the deity of fire, an unseen misfortune befell the divine mother, Izanami. During the course of her confinement, the goddess was so severely burned by the flaming child that she swooned away. Her divine consort, deeply alarmed, did all in his power to resuscitate her, but although he succeeded in restoring her to consciousness, her appetite had completely gone. Izanagi, thereupon and with the utmost loving care, prepared for her delectation various tasty dishes, but all to no avail, because whatever she swallowed was almost immediately rejected. It was in this wise that occurred the greatest miracle of all.

From her mouth sprang Kanayama- biko and Kanayama-hime, respectively the god and goddess of metals, whilst from other parts of her body issued forth Haniyasu-hiko and Haniyasu-hime, respectively the god and goddess of earth. Before making her “divine retirement,” which marks the end of her earthly career, in a manner almost unspeakably miraculous she gave birth to her last-born, the goddess Mizuhame-no-Mikoto. Her demise marks the intrusion of death into the world. Similarly the corruption of her body and the grief occasioned by her death were each the first of their kind.

By the death of his faithful spouse Izanagi was now quite alone in the world. In conjunction with her, and in accordance with the instructions of the Heavenly Gods, he had created and consolidated the Island Empire of Japan. In the fulfillment of their divine mission, he and his heavenly spouse had lived an ideal life of mutual love and cooperation. It is only natural, therefore, that her death should have dealt him a truly mortal blow.

He threw himself upon her prostrate form, crying: “Oh, my dearest wife, why art thou gone, to leave me thus alone? How could I ever exchange thee for even one child? Come back for the sake of the world, in which there still remains so much for both us twain to do.” In a fit of uncontrollable grief, he stood sobbing at the head of the bier. His hot tears fell like hailstones, and lo! out of the tear-drops was born a beauteous babe, the goddess Nakisawame-no-Mikoto. In deep astonishment he stayed his tears, a gazed in wonder at the new-born child, but soon his tears returned only to fall faster than before.

It was thus that a sudden change came over his state of mind. With bitter wrath, his eyes fell upon the infant god of fire, whose birth had proved so fatal to his mother. He drew his sword, Totsuka-no-tsurugi, and crying in his wrath, “Thou hateful matricide,” decapitated his fiery offspring. Up shot a crimson spout of blood. Out of the sword and blood together arose eight strong and gallant deities. “What! more children?” cried Izanagi, much astounded at their sudden appearance, but the very next moment, what should he see but eight more deities born from the lifeless body of the infant firegod!

They came out from the various parts of the body,–head, breast, stomach, hands, feet, and navel, and, to add to his astonishment, all of them were glaring fiercely at him. Altogether stupefied he surveyed the new arrivals one after another.

Meanwhile Izanami, for whom her divine husband pined so bitterly, had quitted this world for good and all and gone to the Land of Hades.

Izanagi’s Visit to the Land of Hades

As for the Deity Izanagi, who had now become a widower, the presence of so many offspring might have, to some extent, beguiled and solaced him, and yet when he remembered how faithful his departed spouse had been to him, he would yearn for her again, his heart swollen with sorrow and his eyes filled with tears. In this mood, sitting up alone at midnight, he would call her name aloud again and again, regardless of the fact that he could hope for no response. His own piteous cries merely echoed back from the walls of his chamber.

Unable any longer to bear his grief, he resolved to go down to the Nether Regions in order to seek for Izanami and bring her back, at all costs, to the world. He started on his long and dubious journey. Many millions of miles separated the earth from the Lower Regions and there were countless steep and dangerous places to be negotiated, but Izanagi’s indomitable determination to recover his wife enabled him finally to overcome all these difficulties. At length he succeeded in arriving at his destination. Far ahead of him, he espied a large castle. “That, no doubt,” he mused in delight, “may be where she resides.”

Summoning up all his courage, he approached the main entrance of the castle. Here he saw a number of gigantic demons, some red some black, guarding the gates with watchful eyes. He retraced his steps in alarm, and stole round to a gate at the rear of the castle. He found, to his great joy, that it was apparently left unwatched. He crept warily through the gate and peered into the interior of the castle, when he immediately caught sight of his wife standing at the gate at an inner court.

The delighted Deity loudly called her name. “Why! There is some one calling me,” sighed Izanami-no-Mikoto, and raising her beautiful head, she looked around her. What was her amazement but to see her beloved husband standing by the gate and gazing at her intently! He had, in fact, been in her thoughts no less constantly than she in his. With a heart leaping with joy, she approached him. He grasped her hands tenderly and murmured in deep and earnest tones: "My darling, I have come to take thee back to the world. Come back, I pray thee, and let us complete our work of creation in accordance with the will of the Heavenly Gods,–our work which was left only half accomplished by thy departure.

How can I do this work without thee?Thy loss means to me the loss of all." This appeal came from the depth of his heart. The goddess sympathized with him most deeply, but answered with tender grief: “Alas! Thou hast come too late. I have already eaten of the furnace of Hades. Having once eaten the things of this land, it is impossible for me to come back to the world.” So saying, she lowered her head in deep despair.

“Nay, I must entreat thee to come back. Canst not thou find some means by which this can be accomplished?” exclaimed her husband, drawing nearer to her. After some reflection, she replied: "Thou hast come a very, very long way for my sake. How much I appreciate thy devotion! I wish, with all my heart, to go back with thee, but before I can do so, I must first obtain the permission of the deities of Hades.

Wait here till my return, but remember that thou must not on any account look inside the castle in the meantime. " I swear I will do as thou biddest," quoth Izanagi, " but tarry not in thy quest." With implicit confidence in her husband’s pledge, the goddess disappeared into the castle.

Izanagi observed strictly her injunction. He remained where he stood, and waited impatiently for his wife’s return. Probably to his impatient mind, a single heart-beat may have seemed an age. He waited and waited, but no shadow of his wife appeared. The day gradually wore on and waned away, darkness was about to fall, and a strange unearthly wind began to strike his face. Brave as he was, he was seized with an uncanny feeling of apprehension.

Forgetting the vow he had made to the goddess, he broke off one of the teeth of the comb which he was wearing in the left bunch of his hair, and having lighted it, he crept in softly and- glanced around him. To his horror he found Izanagi lying dead in a room: and lo! a ghastly change had come over her. She, who had been so dazzlingly beautiful, was now become naught but a rotting corpse, in an advanced stage of decomposition.

Now, an even more horrible sight met his gaze; the Fire Thunder dwelt in her, head, the Black Thunder in her belly, the Rending-Thunder in her abdomen, the Young Thunder in her left hand, the Earth-Thunder in her right hand, the Rumbling-Thunder in her left foot,-and the Couchant Thunder in her right foot:–altogether eight Thunder-Deities had been born and were dwelling there, attached to her remains and belching forth flames from their mouths. Izanagitno-Mikoto was so thoroughly alarmed at the sight, that he dropped the light and took to his heels. The sound he made awakened Izanami from her death-like slumber. For sooth!" she cried: “he must have seen me in this revolting state. He has put me to shame and has broken his solemn vow. Unfaithful wretch! I’ll make him suffer, for his perfidy.”

Then turning to the Hags of Hades, who attended her, she commanded them to give chase to him. At her word, an army of female demons ran after the Deity.

First, science is easy.

Who knew?

Second, anyone disagreeing with me is a poophead.

Third, if anyone should disagree with any of the scientific theories above I shall post the entire phone book of Vienna in its defense, thereby proving irrefutably not only my intelligence, sexual prowess and general awesomeness but also the scientific merits of said theory.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Of this you can be sure - I am just as confident in flood geology as a viable theory as I ever was. I’m not sure where you could’ve pulled that from.[/quote]

Just curious here: What would it take to make you reconsider? What kind of evidence would you require before you changed your mind, or at least lost a bit of confidence in the viability of FG?

[quote]pushharder wrote:

I may be a lot of things but insecure definitely aint one of 'em. It does give me pause though when I hear someone mention it as bragging. It kinda is and it kinda isn’t. I will take that under advisement.[/quote]

Relax man, I’m just yanking your chain.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I’ve a feeling Dawkins has been to Quaqtaq.[/quote]

I’m a bit ambivalent about Dawkins. I think he’s becoming too militant and too fixated on fighting religion. He’s a respected biologist and a good writer who can vulgarize complicated topics quite well. His earlier books, such as The Blind Watchmaker, The Selfish Gene or The Ancestor’s Tale are much better in my opinion than his more recent stuff like The God Delusion.