Oh please, I think we know by now that there’s nothing wrong with soy, it’s an excellent/cheap source of protein. And as far as I understand bovine growth hormone is tested for in milk from all grades and companies, and minuscule in the milk that we drink.
[quote]MrBarnabyJones wrote:
Oh please, I think we know by now that there’s nothing wrong with soy, it’s an excellent/cheap source of protein. And as far as I understand bovine growth hormone is tested for in milk from all grades and companies, and minuscule in the milk that we drink.[/quote]
From the article I posted earlier
Though phytoestrogens are often discussed in the context of cancer prevention and do not typically elicit physiological abnormalities such as DES or other environmental EDCs, phytoestrogens cannot be neglected as EDCs due to widespread exposure to plant material in the diet and the profound physiological effects mediated by ERs (72). Daily phytoestrogen intake ranges from 0.15â??3 mg per day in the United States (72-74). Phytoestrogens have relatively weak affinities for ERα and ERβ, but serum levels can reach near micromolar concentrations after a soy-rich meal (75), well above the concentration of endogenously circulating estrogens (20â??200 pg/mL). Phytoestrogens can act as endocrine disruptors by affecting estrogen biosynthesis and the menstrual cycle (72). Menstrual cycles were longer in women consuming 40 mg of isoflavones per day for 3 months, indicating that phytoestrogen can perturb the normal estrous cycle (76). Phytoestrogen exposure in infants can also be a concern given that 25% of infant formulas are soy-based, and concentrations of the phytoestrogens genistein and daidzein were nearly 500 times higher in the urine of infants given soy-based formulas compared to infants given formulas derived from cowâ??s milk (77). Many animal studies also indicate that phytoestrogens can compete for ER binding and modulate normal ER action in target tissues. In transgenic estrogen reporter mice, genistein treatment inhibited the estrogenic response elicited by E2 in the liver, indicating that phytoestrogen exposure can modify the effects of endogenous estrogens (78).
…so no, I don’t think we all “know” there’s nothing wrong with soy. Also no one is really concerned about bvgh. As already stated in this thread, its broken down the same way any other string of amino acids would be. This thread is mainly dealing with the estrogen content of milk
Why are you trying to replace something that is no good?
Interesting thread from 2011 here.
I remember first time I had goats milk as a kid after playing outdoors in summer Montana… even as a child I noticed the powerful recovery effects of it.
Definitely a fan of Raw Goat milk, I just wish I didn’t have to pay 11$ for half a gallon. Try fermenting raw goat milk with raw Kefir grains you’ll never get sick and your bones will be very dense.
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Some one did a study. There’s less estrogen in goat milk.
Comparison of estrone and 17β-estradiol levels in commercial goat and cow milk - PubMed
I’ve just been doing a bunch of reading on this and the other solution is skim milk, some studies were done in Mongolia because they had a long history of drinking milk. They gave children there western milk, and sure enough the childrens estrogen levels went up(they didnt mention how much unfortunately). They found that skim milk here had about the same content of estrogen as Mongolia where they don’t drink milk from the cows during pregnancy.