Jesus Dude! There’s a fucking wires in that flag that make it stay like that. They say that shit on the Discovery Channel. It’s not wind the movement is from people sticking it in the ground and it sticks straight out because they want it too look like that.
There is/was a guy who put out a video on this supposed moon fraud. I haven’t researched any of his arguments but they do make you think:
-he says there is not one photo of astronauts on the moon with the earth in the background. He says wouldn’t this be the first thing you want to photograph as definitive proof??
-he points out that when the lunar module landed it would have blown a huge crater in the moon’s surface via its reverse thrusters or whatever. In the photos of the module the surface is flat.
-another point has to do with the moon’s gravity and how the dust is falling back down when kicked up by the lunar rover–which he says could not fit where it supposedly did on the module. He also says NASA destroyed the plans for the lunar rover.
-he says in film of astronauts aboard ship in space floating around weightless, there is light coming from a window…space is pitch dark–where is the light coming from? Stars? He points out that in the moon photos, there are no stars in the picture–space is speckled with them.
-the guy claims they filmed all that on earth, since NASA did not know how to send a man to the moon and back…and they still don’t. Kennedy boasted of a man on the moon by the end of the decade…it was 1969, time running out so they faked it. Why? National pride–Vietnam was tearing the country apart. The Soviets beat the US to space with Sputnik. We needed to beat them to the moon.
Like I said I didn’t research any of these ideas but the point is to make you think. It is definitely in the realm of possibility. Ask yourself this: Why hasn’t ANY other country gone there? Not even the Russians who were battling the US for space supremecy, not even once, just to plant their flag there too? Just to say they’ve been there? Cost too much? Perhaps. But the technology has around now for over thirty years and no one has even tried.
Why after a handful of missions, the sudden loss of interest in the moon? Nothing there? By now the spaceshuttle should be landing there. Perhaps some type of permanent station there. All of a sudden came Skylab, then the Shuttle, and the moon is totally forgotten?
Again, the point is to make one think. If government can con you on the moon, think what else they can get away with. Like the income tax, the debt base monetary system, etc. It’s like Hitler I think said: “The bigger the lie the more people believe it”.
I think the reason that no one else has gone to the moon is that it’s already been done. It would be a waste of money (for any country) to go back. Remember, #2 is not a winner. As for the moon base idea, it’s not worth the money right now either, but NASA is still kicking around the idea for future missions.
And what’s up with the cryptic Nostradamus crap from James? Explain it or stop wasting our time. Unless you’ll have to kill us if you tell us.
shadows. look at the shadows, they contradict the position of the sun. the terain from each “landing” matches the last (not kinda matches but DOES match) but there are NO landing gear,luner rovers, etc… (all the things that were “left behind”). and the flag does blow in the “wind” in some footage. not just out and held up by wires but it flaps in the “wind”. there is a radiation belt around the earth that we can NOT get past. funny how the only time ANY ship has past it (that had passengers on it) was when we “went to the moon”. The U.S.A, the U.S.S.R, Japan, etc… has NEVER at any other time went past this “ring” but we did with some tin foil protecting us from radiation???
I’m absolutely amazed that the SAME people who read T-mag can actually believe the crap I’ve seen spewed in this thread. Folks, not everybody is out to get you and deceive you. Great and previously unimaginable things actually happen. It’s funny that one of T-mag’s best unoffical “mottos” is something along the lines of, “There will always be naysayers and critics of those who choose to be daring and innovative.” The problem seems to be that a few people can’t expand that thinking to all areas of their lives.
James, Just waht are you talking about? I’m not big on conspiracy theories, but I still learn from listening to others. Do you have anything interesting to share with us? NycMan
Here are two interesting sites about the moon landing special:
www.bestofcolumbus.com/ Braeunig/space/hoax.htm
http://pirlwww. lpl.arizona.edu/ ~jscotti/NOT_faked/FOX.html
It just seems weird that there are so many things that seem to be inconsistant. If we did go, then some of the things were faked.
It’s hard for me to beleive that anyone out they doesn’t realize that JFK was shot by more than one person.
Any new conspicaries? Yeah, none of the pictures we have seem of TC were actually him. And he secrectly does competitive bodybuilding under the name “Nicole Bass.”
Haven’t had a chance to get on a computer and I have been very busy. As for my previous comments about our future well I really can’t get into details but what is going to be revealed will change our history and deals with lets say life out there and the history of man on earth. And no its not all green men with big oval eyes but as all of these things come to life although some will say that our religous books have been proved wrong just remember that they are stories to help us through life not necessarily the fact of history but for those that believe in a higher being in my opinion 50years from now instead of being mad or thinking religion lied to you instead look at it as proof that your higher being is even more powerful than you had previously thought. Sorry for the religious thing there its just that most people who are very religious don’t grasp the ideas of things that aren’t mentioned in there religous books and teachings. Also someone mentioned earlier if this is nostradamus stuff its not but I can’t go into any more detail without thinking out how I word some of these things. Its just that the general public is not ready for alot of this BUT trust me is mostly positive stuff. Anyway sorry again for being so cryptic and take care.
Sounds like some Alan F. Alford type stuff your proclaiming here. I still have to read his books though cause his theories just seems rather interesting. Not saying I believe him. Now maybe thats not what you talking about. The only other thing I can think of that you may be eluding too is God as the creator of the universe but he’s not a “mystical” being as such but someone with super…extra super technology. ie: The entire universe could be a computer simulation. Hehheh. No I’m not insane. I didn’t say I believed it. But there is technically some proof at the quantum level that supports this “theory”. Of course everything we know about quantum mechanics could be wrong. Where’s my prozac? Hello the voices… 
Okay, if this stuff is difficult to explain, how did you learn it? Got any good resources you’d like to suggest? All fluff, no substance so far.
Its not about alford or god. Its very real. It has to do with lets say science, the universe, the origin of man, space travel, life out there etc. There is alot more to it but I will go further at another time. I have to stop using the same computer and email. You will notice my posts in the future. If you are wondering why I know so much I will put it this way I am involved at the top levels of many many things. Gov., industry, science etc. I also don’t get paid on the books so anyway I am sure many will think this is BS but the reason why I say what I do out here and on other boards is in the hope that people will open their eyes to new possibilities and to have a more positive outlook even with whats going on in the world today because there are things that I know and am involved in that would amaze you but unfortunately its the masses as a whole that can’t handle this at this time. Individuals yes but the general public no. There is an old saying a PERSON CAN BE SMART but a GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY DUMB.
Or one individual can be dumb and full of himself on the internet, making up wild lying and speaking in half truths to make himself feel more important than he is. The sad part is that people are actually paying attention to what you’re saying. Of course, people also paid attention to David Koresh, Jim Jones, etc. Have you ever considered going to therapy or being put on medication?
James you are hilarious. Of course you are involved in top level covert goverment shit. That’s why you are telling us, but they’re watching you and THEY know you are telling us this shit, right? I work with a guy that tells people he gets picked up by his stealth pilot friend. I live in Toronto. Of course we don’t see the plane because it’s a stealth fighter. This guy is absoutely serious about this. He also works for the Pentagon. Yup it’s true, all true. James if you are going to say this shit perhaps you should at least write at high school or college level. I’m no scholar but to me your posts’ are on par with a 12yr olds. Listen to DocT and get HELP!
Ok well good for you that you feel that way. Look for all I know I am not being watched but that is not the point. I don’t want to be. I feel I am doing good by expressing as much as I can what’s going on. Sure many people tell many stories and I have no way of knowing who is real and who is not. In no way am I anything like Koresh or any other wacko. Although I guess you could think whatever you want. I am skeptical of alot of people as well but again I am not on some recruiting mission not do I have anything to sell you. I just feel the need to express some little bit of what I know and I hope it will help some. Hell I am honest when I tell you James is not my name what do you think I am nuts. Well of course you do. As for shitdisturber your friend saying he gets picked up in a stealth fighter yeah that sounds ridiculous. What does the guy land out front in the street? As for my writing abilities what the hell are you talking about. Besides even if there are mistakes do you think I am going to spend the time to “CHECK ALL MY GRAMAR AND SPELLING” before I post. Please its a friggin message board not an article for a science journal. To DocT if people are paying attention then good. It means they are opening their minds to possibilities. I have given no specifics on these topics nor will I. That is not up to me to do but by people opening their minds with a positive outlook towards the future when amazing almost shocking things start to happen they will be just a little more ready to accept it. Anyway take care everyone. Bye.
Did anyone else here see ‘A Beautiful Mind’?
You saying James is nuts? By the way has anyone seen my beautiful ass? Tee hee hee. But seriously I like to keep a super open mind about everything. Admitedly what James is saying seems…well f-ed up. But how he writes seems sane. I don’t know if we’re all gonna find out later as he says then why worry? And if it doesn’t happen the who gives a shit. Plus I have met alot of liers in my day. At first your like wow this person is so interesting then after 2 weeks you like fuck another bullshit story. Ugh. So basically I made one funny joke then the rest of this post was a waste of time. But then again it’s one in the morning.
You moon conspiracy theorists crack me up. The fact is, if there truly was a hoax, the Russians would have called us on it, because they were monitoring our communications to and from the moon. If we truly were not up there, they easily could have determined that.