Conspiracy 9/11

[quote]Sloth wrote:
I ask for papers published in independent peer-reviewed engineering/demolition journals, and what do I get? Thirty papers published in a peer reviewed 9-11 conspiracy site! Are you joking? [/quote]

Yea, and my son’s mother asked for testimony from an accredited psychologist I could not pay. Her parent’s on the other hand paid a team of psychologists to state why I am bad and she is good. Does that make it true?

NO, it doesn’t, except in your dick sucking world.

Get off your horse, spit the dick out, and open your eyes.

Just because the truth movement cannot pay more than the Bush admin, does not make it less true.

Your arguments are getting old.

Go find some new ones.

[quote]lixy wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Just like the British got rid of the Hindu practice of wife burning, we will dispose of the satanic rituals of clitoral slashing, whipping of women for showing an ankle, beheading those who disagree with you, and so on.

Clitorectomy is clearly condemned by Islam. But you wouldn’t know since you listen to Coulter and not to Muslims. I can give you Fatwas and opinions of scholars on the matter if you wish.

I am unaware of cases where people whip women for flashing their ankles. Please elaborate.

I never heard of beheading people simply because of a difference of opinion being condone by a government. If what you mean is that people are executed because they transgressed laws, I think many states in America do the same. It’s kinda ironic that you’d want to exterminate people simply because you disagree with their laws.

On a side note, who do you think is the most extreme government in the Arab world as far as “satanic” practices are concerned? I’d vote for Saudi Arabia. What’s your pick?[/quote]

Honestly Lixy, you are far too educated to argue with HH in this manner.

He has nothing near the knowledge you have, and I do not know how you waste time educating him.

You are a better person than I am. I am like “shut the fuck up!” and if he were in my face spewing ignorant shit like this, I would not tell him he was going to be hit before my fist landed.

Props to you my friend.

[quote]Petedacook wrote:
Sloth wrote:
I ask for papers published in independent peer-reviewed engineering/demolition journals, and what do I get? Thirty papers published in a peer reviewed 9-11 conspiracy site! Are you joking?

Yea, and my son’s mother asked for testimony from an accredited psychologist I could not pay. Her parent’s on the other hand paid a team of psychologists to state why I am bad and she is good. Does that make it true?

NO, it doesn’t, except in your dick sucking world.

Get off your horse, spit the dick out, and open your eyes.
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Wow! The bitterness! It’s as if I were challenging your religious beliefs or something. Well, you folks do have a cult like mentality for this stuff, after all.

See putting stock into a discredited Jones, while ignoring the vast consensus of engineering science, as an example. He’s risen above the independent and peer-reviewed process of scientific verification obviously!

[quote]
Just because the truth movement cannot pay more than the Bush admin, does not make it less true.

Your arguments are getting old.

Go find some new ones. [/quote]

And now Engineering Journals around the world have become part of the conspiracy. Structural/civil engineers are part of the Bush mass murder. Their loyalty obviously purchased by Bush, of course. What are we up to now, easily a few 100,000 actively involved in the cover-up, right? Heh.

In the end, you need not worry about me. If your best argument is “dick sucker,” I’d rather not be involved in a conversation with you. Keep the faith, peace.

[quote]Petedacook wrote:
Sloth wrote:
JustTheFacts wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Apparently you’re not reading me correctly. My time frame doesn’t fall between 10-12 seconds. My time is AT LEAST 12.5s. Again, AT LEAST. Reread it all again. You obviously skimmed. At second 12, I give the remaining floors only 1 second to fall. AS I said, that’s just not possible.

Watch the video, it makes your argument completely laughable when you emphasize “AT LEAST 12.5s”–since in reality it would be 40 seconds to NEVER.
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/080307nist.htm

You appear to be looking for the most complicated answer to a fundamental impossibility. You could prove me wrong of course by running thru a series of 20 closed doors at almost the exact same speed as if they were open. Or better yet, do the 100 meter hurdles at your 100 meter sprint time.

Hah, nice dodge! I invite anyone to listen for the roar of the collapse initialization towards the top of the building(btw, didn’t even factor speed of sound to mic). And then view how much is still standing at the 12 second mark. Right there, at least 11.5 seconds have passed, with that much building still left. Would Jones have us believe it took .5s for the rest to collapse?

One more time, I said at least 12.5s for a reason. That’s because I used a ridiculous collapse time for the remaining building, at the 12 second mark…1 sec. Are you arguing that it took a mere 1 sec for the rest to collapse?

Do you know the number 1 republican campaign contirbutor up to the 2000 elections?

That’s right idiot, it was ENRON.

I suppose you also know that ALL of the evidence against ENRON and the GOVT. involvement with ENRON and the contributions was stored in WTC 4, the last building to fall, which was not hit by any fucking thing. NOTHING DOUCHE!

All evidence was lost in the collapse of that building.

And you have absolutely no reason to question this? NONE? No reason to request an independent investigation. INDEPENDENT, not a bunch of BUSH croneys.

My advice to you, keep sucking dick my friend. Jesus will sort you out.

Yea, and by the way I work for the company that analyzed the data from ENRON, Onsite Sourcing. And the data was lost in WTC building 4 collapse.

Look it up, I am sure you know ZERO about it.

Yet you proclaim the studies of paid hit men.

Brillaint. I won sustody of my son. My son’s mother appealed and paid over 5 psychiatrists to testify in court why she should have custody of my son.

I suppose in your mind, she should have custody of my son, and I am wrong. After all, I couldn’t even pay one psychologist to testify on my behalf. So the professionals that testify for her win, and I lose since I couldn’t afford one testimony.

So my son needs to go to my mother, and you need your balls cut off so you cannot contaminate the rest of the population.

Seem fair? [/quote]

Ok, I missed this post when I responded to your proceeding post directed at me. Now, I’m going to say something very ugly, but sincerely. Perhaps, you do need some mental help. If you’re wondering how I could be such an evil S.O.B to say so, do the following. Reread your both of your responses a couple of times.

What a frothing at the mouth, way over the top, disproportionate response. I think the worst thing I’ve said to you is the you made a pathetic response to a point I raised. Now, I did just fire off a cult likening to you and Ct’ers because of you calling me a Sodomite.

More of a little jab as I withdrew from any conversation with you. But, that was before I noticed this post. About sucking your “dick,” and cutting my balls off.

In the end, I don’t harbor any real ill feelings for you, and that’s the truth. You’ve done me no real harm with your reply. But, I’d ask yourself if this is an all too common reaction in your life .

[quote]JustTheFacts wrote:
Sloth wrote:
I will if Jone’s WTC work has been published in any independent peer-reviewed engineering journal. Otherwise, why waste my time on a man who can only publish on his own site, where it’s peer-reviewed by his fellow CT’ers. Sorry, but I won’t be turning to “Prisonplanet” as a resource of independent and peer reviewed science, either.

“In a way, the worldview of the Party imposed itself most successfully on people incapable of understanding it. They could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of what was demanded of them… By lack of understanding they remained sane. They simply swallowed everything, and what they swallowed did them no harm, because it left no residue behind, just as a grain of corn will pass undigested through the body of a bird.”
–George Orwell, 1984[/quote]

Alrighty…At this point I suppose I’ll be ducking out of the conversation. This one went sour. Heh.

Fuckin’ A right PETE! I’m too much of an old school redneck to have the time to give these GOP fucks a bunch of facts. We are involving ourselves in another country’s civil war, and if this keeps up, we will have a civil war here!

The self-rightious GOP advocates on these boards are so great at defending…What are they defending??? This is the worst position our country has ever been in, but I’m only 33. I just wish the GOP asses would give us some reason for being over there. And I don’t want an excuse that we are trying to liberate them.

Our Prez and his cronies have no heart for the poor or homeless here, so why would they care about another country? They cannot push their “christian” values on a country that does not want it! They know it, everyone with a brain knows it.

I think if you support this regime, you should be drafted. Fight for what you believe, instead of letting others die for your rhetoric. Think about it keyboard warriors!

[quote]Petedacook wrote:
Varqanir wrote:
lixy wrote:
For the record, none of the hijackers’ relatives were harmed.

Also for the record, the family of the alleged ringleader of the plot was hustled out of the country on a private jet, with the approval of the FBI, at a time when all flights both foreign and domestic were supposedly grounded.

Yup. And I was grounded on a business trip 2,000 miles from home at the same time. And I was not happy about being made to stay away from my family for a longer period of time.

Yet this fucker’s family was allowed to fly chartered jets out of the country, without questioning.

interesting, isn’t it?

Or not if you are a Republican. [/quote]

Interesting but false.

[quote]Sloth wrote:
JustTheFacts wrote:
Sloth wrote:
I will if Jone’s WTC work has been published in any independent peer-reviewed engineering journal. Otherwise, why waste my time on a man who can only publish on his own site, where it’s peer-reviewed by his fellow CT’ers. Sorry, but I won’t be turning to “Prisonplanet” as a resource of independent and peer reviewed science, either.

“In a way, the worldview of the Party imposed itself most successfully on people incapable of understanding it. They could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of what was demanded of them… By lack of understanding they remained sane. They simply swallowed everything, and what they swallowed did them no harm, because it left no residue behind, just as a grain of corn will pass undigested through the body of a bird.”
–George Orwell, 1984

Alrighty…At this point I suppose I’ll be ducking out of the conversation. This one went sour. Heh.[/quote]

Only to be expected when dealing with this clown.

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Petedacook wrote:
Sloth wrote:

I don’t even understand what you’re trying to ask me. Everyone saw the planes strike WTC. Tons of eyewitnesses saw flight 77 strike the pentagon. Not to mention the debris at the pentagon site. What exactly are you asking? Are you pulling the “why didn’t they get intercepted routine?” Please clarify.

I have 2 questions.

1.How do 2 planes hit the twin towers, and 45 minutes later a plane strike the Pentagon, allegedly the most protected building in the nation, without being intercepted, while being tracked on radar the entire time by the vice president?

Sorry, but your question is loaded with assumptions. And, is far more complicated than I wish to tackle within a forum. Keep this in mind. We’re dealing with the reality of pre-911 stance. Not some corny hollywood action movie.
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BTW Sloth, to which “pre-911 stance” are you referring?

This one:

“I do not remember any reports to us, a kind of strategic warning, that planes might be used as weapons.”
–Condoleezza Rice

Bush says he had no 9/11 warning

Cheney - Secret Monitoring May Have Averted 9/11
Vice President Cheney said yesterday that the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks might have been prevented if the Bush administration had had the power to secretly monitor conversations involving two of the hijackers without court orders.

Or this one:

Bush Authorized Domestic Spying Before 9/11
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/48/16920

Memo: “Bin Laden determined to attack inside the U.S.”
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/bush.briefing/

Tenet: ‘System was blinking red’
By the time a CIA briefer gave President Bush the Aug. 6, 2001, President’s Daily Brief headlined “Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US,” the president had seen a stream of alarming reports on al Qaeda’s intentions.

Officials Confirm French Spy Service Warned CIA Of Al Qaeda Plot In Early 2001
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/16/world/main2689205.shtml

FBI Knew Terrorists Were Using Flight Schools

9/11 Panel: FAA Got 52 al-Qaida Warnings in 6 Months
http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=486644

Ashcroft Stops Flying Commercial - July 2001
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml

“On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns.”