Conservatives Hate Thinking

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
@ lifty I am sure the article is aimed at the SO CALLED SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE, you know the ones that like telling other people what to do out of one side of their mouth and out of the other they are saying we need the Government out of our business[/quote]

You mean the same thing that liberals do?[/quote]

Yes probably , I will say that so called liberals do it less though so called Liberals mostly war on drugs .So called Conservatives , war on drugs, abortion ,gay rights ,birth control, Jesus, anti Muslim and the list goes on

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[quote]jnd wrote:
Is there any other way to talk about groups of people without applying some type of label? If there is, I would love to hear it. It is not like any useful conversation comes from individually naming each person (that would never work).

I see that you failed to answer my question. I get it- no problem.

jnd

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It’s not like a any useful conversation comes from generalizing groups of people that may or may not share some beliefs.

Beliefs matter, labeling people by them does not.

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[quote]jnd wrote:
Is there any other way to talk about groups of people without applying some type of label? [/quote]

No, but you can have the conversation in the context that not all members of the group are in line with all lines of reasoning coming from the group quite simiply.

You are not doing that. The addition of two or three words would accomplish this.

There is no need to take it to extremes, and this is a silly example of taking what I’m talking about, and I believe you fully understand, to the extreme.

[quote]I see that you failed to answer my question. I get it- no problem.

jnd

[/quote]

Ah, but I did. Who is the lazy thinker?

If my lack of defense of the statement wasn’t enough for you: yes, some people who consider themselves conservative have, and promote bad ideas.

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The link was broken, but the study is accessible if you cut and paste the link into your browser.

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[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
Perhaps it’s a common sense thing. Common sense, when a person has it, can be considered low effort. Using an example of fiscal responsibility and conservatism, one can say it’s a ‘low-effort’ idea to say…‘Don’t spend more money than you take in’. To embark upon endless overriding, complicated flights of various ideas that promote the spending of money you don’t have will land you in a heap of unmanageable and suffocating debt.

Just sayin’…‘low-effort’ thought is not necessarily a bad (or insulting) thing.

P.S. Admittedly, I did not read the detailed study because I have to go to work, not because I didn’t want to raise my mental effort in doing so! I’ll check it out later. [/quote]

It takes less effort to tell the truth and see things as they actually are. Liberals spend most of their time trying to come up with creative ways of making bad ideas sound good, and assign pretty words to horrific practices. I am sure that that takes a tremendous amount of effort. You don’t have to spin truth or reality so that takes less effort. I would there for say that study is right on. It takes less effort to be right than it does to be wrong and try to make it sound like it’s right.

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I do not think the low effort thinking they are referring to is the thinking that comes natural I think they are talking about (WHEN) higher order thinking is required and lower order is used. I do not remember if it was the So Called Conservative or the So Called Liberal that debunks just about everything Science promotes

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Moderate and internationalist Republicans should be more concerned about taking their party back from the conservative and neo-conservatives whose irrational dogma has so marred the party in recent years. Both parties can learn a great deal from one another if the curtain of partisanship can be lifted.

The competition of ideas between Democrats and Republicans can only help the United States by promoting the innovative visions and solutions needed for America as we go forward in the 21st century.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
Perhaps it’s a common sense thing. Common sense, when a person has it, can be considered low effort. Using an example of fiscal responsibility and conservatism, one can say it’s a ‘low-effort’ idea to say…‘Don’t spend more money than you take in’. To embark upon endless overriding, complicated flights of various ideas that promote the spending of money you don’t have will land you in a heap of unmanageable and suffocating debt.

Just sayin’…‘low-effort’ thought is not necessarily a bad (or insulting) thing.

P.S. Admittedly, I did not read the detailed study because I have to go to work, not because I didn’t want to raise my mental effort in doing so! I’ll check it out later. [/quote]

It takes less effort to tell the truth and see things as they actually are. Liberals spend most of their time trying to come up with creative ways of making bad ideas sound good, and assign pretty words to horrific practices. I am sure that that takes a tremendous amount of effort. You don’t have to spin truth or reality so that takes less effort. I would there for say that study is right on. It takes less effort to be right than it does to be wrong and try to make it sound like it’s right. [/quote]

You mean like when liberals THINK they can figure out a way to run a nanny state indefinitely, while maintaining a contracepted and aging socially liberal society?

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[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
Perhaps it’s a common sense thing. Common sense, when a person has it, can be considered low effort. Using an example of fiscal responsibility and conservatism, one can say it’s a ‘low-effort’ idea to say…‘Don’t spend more money than you take in’. To embark upon endless overriding, complicated flights of various ideas that promote the spending of money you don’t have will land you in a heap of unmanageable and suffocating debt.

Just sayin’…‘low-effort’ thought is not necessarily a bad (or insulting) thing.

P.S. Admittedly, I did not read the detailed study because I have to go to work, not because I didn’t want to raise my mental effort in doing so! I’ll check it out later. [/quote]

It takes less effort to tell the truth and see things as they actually are. Liberals spend most of their time trying to come up with creative ways of making bad ideas sound good, and assign pretty words to horrific practices. I am sure that that takes a tremendous amount of effort. You don’t have to spin truth or reality so that takes less effort. I would there for say that study is right on. It takes less effort to be right than it does to be wrong and try to make it sound like it’s right. [/quote]

You mean like when liberals THINK they can figure out a way to run a nanny state indefinitely, while maintaining a contracepted and aging socially liberal society?
[/quote]

If you would just THINK a little bit more you would come up with a reason why arithmetic is bogus.

Or, at least, right wing.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
Perhaps it’s a common sense thing. Common sense, when a person has it, can be considered low effort. Using an example of fiscal responsibility and conservatism, one can say it’s a ‘low-effort’ idea to say…‘Don’t spend more money than you take in’. To embark upon endless overriding, complicated flights of various ideas that promote the spending of money you don’t have will land you in a heap of unmanageable and suffocating debt.

Just sayin’…‘low-effort’ thought is not necessarily a bad (or insulting) thing.

P.S. Admittedly, I did not read the detailed study because I have to go to work, not because I didn’t want to raise my mental effort in doing so! I’ll check it out later. [/quote]

It takes less effort to tell the truth and see things as they actually are. Liberals spend most of their time trying to come up with creative ways of making bad ideas sound good, and assign pretty words to horrific practices. I am sure that that takes a tremendous amount of effort. You don’t have to spin truth or reality so that takes less effort. I would there for say that study is right on. It takes less effort to be right than it does to be wrong and try to make it sound like it’s right. [/quote]

You mean like when liberals THINK they can figure out a way to run a nanny state indefinitely, while maintaining a contracepted and aging socially liberal society?
[/quote]

I know I am older than most here but Social Security was originally an Insurance Program. I believe (I KNOW A DEMOCRAT) LBJ started raiding it to balance the budget. Every President has done so since . Now they no longer call it Social Security Insurance now that it is time to pay it back it is called a tax . Talk about an amazing transformation

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
Perhaps it’s a common sense thing. Common sense, when a person has it, can be considered low effort. Using an example of fiscal responsibility and conservatism, one can say it’s a ‘low-effort’ idea to say…‘Don’t spend more money than you take in’. To embark upon endless overriding, complicated flights of various ideas that promote the spending of money you don’t have will land you in a heap of unmanageable and suffocating debt.

Just sayin’…‘low-effort’ thought is not necessarily a bad (or insulting) thing.

P.S. Admittedly, I did not read the detailed study because I have to go to work, not because I didn’t want to raise my mental effort in doing so! I’ll check it out later. [/quote]

It takes less effort to tell the truth and see things as they actually are. Liberals spend most of their time trying to come up with creative ways of making bad ideas sound good, and assign pretty words to horrific practices. I am sure that that takes a tremendous amount of effort. You don’t have to spin truth or reality so that takes less effort. I would there for say that study is right on. It takes less effort to be right than it does to be wrong and try to make it sound like it’s right. [/quote]

You mean like when liberals THINK they can figure out a way to run a nanny state indefinitely, while maintaining a contracepted and aging socially liberal society?
[/quote]

I know I am older than most here but Social Security was originally an Insurance Program. I believe (I KNOW A DEMOCRAT) LBJ started raiding it to balance the budget. Every President has done so since . Now they no longer call it Social Security Insurance now that it is time to pay it back it is called a tax . Talk about an amazing transformation
[/quote]

Oh, it was all meant well and then the inevitable voter bribery and bureaucratic inertia set in?

Damn shame, who would have thought?

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
Perhaps it’s a common sense thing. Common sense, when a person has it, can be considered low effort. Using an example of fiscal responsibility and conservatism, one can say it’s a ‘low-effort’ idea to say…‘Don’t spend more money than you take in’. To embark upon endless overriding, complicated flights of various ideas that promote the spending of money you don’t have will land you in a heap of unmanageable and suffocating debt.

Just sayin’…‘low-effort’ thought is not necessarily a bad (or insulting) thing.

P.S. Admittedly, I did not read the detailed study because I have to go to work, not because I didn’t want to raise my mental effort in doing so! I’ll check it out later. [/quote]

It takes less effort to tell the truth and see things as they actually are. Liberals spend most of their time trying to come up with creative ways of making bad ideas sound good, and assign pretty words to horrific practices. I am sure that that takes a tremendous amount of effort. You don’t have to spin truth or reality so that takes less effort. I would there for say that study is right on. It takes less effort to be right than it does to be wrong and try to make it sound like it’s right. [/quote]

You mean like when liberals THINK they can figure out a way to run a nanny state indefinitely, while maintaining a contracepted and aging socially liberal society?
[/quote]

I know I am older than most here but Social Security was originally an Insurance Program. I believe (I KNOW A DEMOCRAT) LBJ started raiding it to balance the budget. Every President has done so since . Now they no longer call it Social Security Insurance now that it is time to pay it back it is called a tax . Talk about an amazing transformation
[/quote]

Oh, it was all meant well and then the inevitable voter bribery and bureaucratic inertia set in?

Damn shame, who would have thought?[/quote]

Problem is we know this and some think it is good to fuck us that were sold something that was not true . I do not think my generation will stand for it

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Ah, I found out why math is right wing.

It is not flexible and very dogmatic, downright patriarchal if you think about it.

We need a new way to count things.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
Perhaps it’s a common sense thing. Common sense, when a person has it, can be considered low effort. Using an example of fiscal responsibility and conservatism, one can say it’s a ‘low-effort’ idea to say…‘Don’t spend more money than you take in’. To embark upon endless overriding, complicated flights of various ideas that promote the spending of money you don’t have will land you in a heap of unmanageable and suffocating debt.

Just sayin’…‘low-effort’ thought is not necessarily a bad (or insulting) thing.

P.S. Admittedly, I did not read the detailed study because I have to go to work, not because I didn’t want to raise my mental effort in doing so! I’ll check it out later. [/quote]

It takes less effort to tell the truth and see things as they actually are. Liberals spend most of their time trying to come up with creative ways of making bad ideas sound good, and assign pretty words to horrific practices. I am sure that that takes a tremendous amount of effort. You don’t have to spin truth or reality so that takes less effort. I would there for say that study is right on. It takes less effort to be right than it does to be wrong and try to make it sound like it’s right. [/quote]

You mean like when liberals THINK they can figure out a way to run a nanny state indefinitely, while maintaining a contracepted and aging socially liberal society?
[/quote]

I know I am older than most here but Social Security was originally an Insurance Program. I believe (I KNOW A DEMOCRAT) LBJ started raiding it to balance the budget. Every President has done so since . Now they no longer call it Social Security Insurance now that it is time to pay it back it is called a tax . Talk about an amazing transformation
[/quote]

Oh, it was all meant well and then the inevitable voter bribery and bureaucratic inertia set in?

Damn shame, who would have thought?[/quote]

Problem is we know this and some think it is good to fuck us that were sold something that was not true . I do not think my generation will stand for it
[/quote]

Whatchagonnado?

Start the first geriatric revolution in history?

Some people who get fucked by this would have to come out with a walker or a wheel chair.

If young people dont feel like supporting you, you are shit out of luck, yes, you can outvote them…

So?

If they do not feel like supporting 1-1,5 geezer on top of their own life and their own family, well, shucks…

There is you New Deal for you, a Ponzi Scheme, in all its glory.

You have run out of idiots, bummer.

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First thing I will do is vote for Obama , sorry you guys have forced my hand:)

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
First thing I will do is vote for Obama , sorry you guys have forced my hand:)[/quote]

Actually, I think that this is the best that could happen to the GOP.

This ship will tank, why not let the liberal Messiah stand at the helm when it happens?

Not that I am that interested in the wellbeing of the GOP, but I am interested in my portfolio and that you get it over with as soon as possible.

Win-win, one might say.

Well, except those who expected to live of off others, for whom I might shed a tear or two.

Tears of joy, but potato, po-tha-to…

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I do not think things will tank just yet, I think the Bush tax cuts will expire and fix a lot of problems

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
First thing I will do is vote for Obama , sorry you guys have forced my hand:)[/quote]

Actually, I think that this is the best that could happen to the GOP.

This ship will tank, why not let the liberal Messiah stand at the helm when it happens?

Not that I am that interested in the wellbeing of the GOP, but I am interested in my portfolio and that you get it over with as soon as possible.

Win-win, one might say.

Well, except those who expected to live of off others, for whom I might shed a tear or two.

Tears of joy, but potato, po-tha-to… [/quote]

The ship will sink so slowly that there will be enough time for both sides to blame it on several other presidents of the opposite party.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I do not think things will tank just yet, I think the Bush tax cuts will expire and fix a lot of problems [/quote]

Jajajajaja…

If you confiscated all the wealth of all the billionaires in the US… you could not cover one years deficit.

The official deficit that is, not counting unfounded liabilities that keep growing by a staggering amount each year.

You were saying?

Does “broke” settle in yet?

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
First thing I will do is vote for Obama , sorry you guys have forced my hand:)[/quote]

Actually, I think that this is the best that could happen to the GOP.

This ship will tank, why not let the liberal Messiah stand at the helm when it happens?

Not that I am that interested in the wellbeing of the GOP, but I am interested in my portfolio and that you get it over with as soon as possible.

Win-win, one might say.

Well, except those who expected to live of off others, for whom I might shed a tear or two.

Tears of joy, but potato, po-tha-to… [/quote]

The ship will sink so slowly that there will be enough time for both sides to blame it on several other presidents of the opposite party.[/quote]

Chaotic systems…

They dip, and dip, and dip, and then they fall.

Suddenly and thoroughly.

I would not count on an orderly universe allowing for an orderly decline.