[quote]pushharder wrote:
No federal gun control until 1927 (law banning mailing concealable weapons) but nothing of any restrictive value until 1934. None. Zilch. For 168 years literally everyone was able to obtain, possess and use firearms in any capacity, of any type/quantity that s/he saw fit, without any (federal) government regulation or control whatsoever.[/quote]
Funny how so many of this empi…err…country’s tyrannical laws came in the same 10-20 year time period, which coincided with it becoming an empir…great emancipator and protector of the people of many nations.
I can’t believe that people used to believe that Egypt, Greece, and Rome could do good for other peoples. It’s so obvious that the world has just been waiting on the first REAL selfless and kind nation, the United States of America, to take its rightful place on the throne. Gee-whiz, you would think those old societies would have known better.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
No federal gun control until 1927 (law banning mailing concealable weapons) but nothing of any restrictive value until 1934. None. Zilch. For 168 years literally everyone was able to obtain, possess and use firearms in any capacity, of any type/quantity that s/he saw fit, without any (federal) government regulation or control whatsoever.[/quote]
Funny how so many of this empi…err…country’s tyrannical laws came in the same 10-20 year time period, which coincided with it becoming an empir…great emancipator and protector of the people of many nations.
I can’t believe that people used to believe that Egypt, Greece, and Rome could do good for other peoples. It’s so obvious that the world has just been waiting on the first REAL selfless and kind nation, the United States of America, to take its rightful place on the throne. Gee-whiz, you would think those old societies would have known better. [/quote]
And when the bread and circuses run out, the plebes will consume themselves…
[quote]magick wrote:
I apologize for attempting to turn this into a 2nd amendment debate in advance, but I asked this question to CountingBeans in that “On Government” thread and I want a response-
What does “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,” mean? And how does it relate to the 2nd half of the 2nd Amendment that everyone focuses on?[/quote]
I think it means nothing without the rest of the wording included. As a whole I read it to mean that an individuals right to keep and bear arms shall not bee infringed so that a well regulated militia can be formed to secure a free state from tyranny.
As far as felons, I think a felon that has been released and off probation should be allowed to legally purchase a gun to defend himself. If a felon cannot be trusted with that right, then they have not been rehabilitated and shouuld not be released from prison! Prison is littered with people convicted for “felon in possession of a firearm.” The fact is that most released felons will most likely be living in poor neighborhoods that are high in crime. It then comes down to: face a gun and be legally be unarmed, or face a gun and be illegally armed. I would choose the latter every time.
[quote]magick wrote:
I apologize for attempting to turn this into a 2nd amendment debate in advance, but I asked this question to CountingBeans in that “On Government” thread and I want a response-
What does “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,” mean? And how does it relate to the 2nd half of the 2nd Amendment that everyone focuses on?[/quote]
I think it means nothing without the rest of the wording included. As a whole I read it to mean that an individuals right to keep and bear arms shall not bee infringed so that a well regulated militia can be formed to secure a free state from tyranny.
As far as felons, I think a felon that has been released and off probation should be allowed to legally purchase a gun to defend himself. If a felon cannot be trusted with that right, then they have not been rehabilitated and shouuld not be released from prison! Prison is littered with people convicted for “felon in possession of a firearm.” The fact is that most released felons will most likely be living in poor neighborhoods that are high in crime. It then comes down to: face a gun and be legally be unarmed, or face a gun and be illegally armed. I would choose the latter every time. [/quote]
It puts you in a position of being judged by twelve or carried by six…
[quote]PJS2010 wrote:
I’m guessing most of you guys on here are in the “guns dont kill people, people kill people” frame of mind?[/quote]
No, it is never the killers fault. I believe evil gun manufactures have spent millions of dollar on R&D in an effort to create a shooting addiction in this country. They have succeeded and we can only pray our government, like yours, steps in to save us.
That was sarcasm and thread carryover in case you are understandably confused. Guns don’t kill people, they are used to kill people.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Been thinking about it, and you guys are right.
While maybe not a terrible idea, something like this is likely a terrible idea. [/quote]
Its okay.
Living in Massachusetts will do crazy things to a man. Up becomes down, right becomes wrong and pumping your own gas becomes too risky for the average motorist to do by themselves.
Grow a beard and move north. That’ll get your head right.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Been thinking about it, and you guys are right.
While maybe not a terrible idea, something like this is likely a terrible idea. [/quote]
Its okay.
Living in Massachusetts will do crazy things to a man. Up becomes down, right becomes wrong and pumping your own gas becomes too risky for the average motorist to do by themselves.
Grow a beard and move north. That’ll get your head right.[/quote]
They do that shit in Massachusetts too? I thought it was just a Jersey thing.
Need to beg LEO to buy anything other than a pump action or 22 rifle though. And even the police chiefs’ are bitching about pump actions and 22’s being shall issue.
This is the type of bullshit we deal with.
I can literally post on facebook and have my LTC revoked. They can revoke me because they don’t like my haircut. My town only gives out restricted (hunting & target only) and is actually picking the ire of some lawyers.