Hello, i had some months left without check in here. There was interesting things happened and i would sum them later in some lines. Regarding to the questions, yes, the effects are last after some time, and they seemed fade a little bit. But obviously, wellbutrin is an important medicine, if you have problems with libido/sex drive/flirt/meet new persons/going out etc!
Wellbutrin is totally easy to start,and the discontinue is also easy and free form problems. When i start the medicine, i was feel spinned up every morning, like i when i drink 2 cup of coffee, but this effect fades and disappeared after one week. The discontinue was only left me with some melancholy but minimally. I can say it is possible to stop wellbutrin very easily and zero withdrawal effect.
Since i was left the post for some months, i have changes, and interesting findings in my medical combo. They are the following in just one lines:
Bromocriptine/Wellbutrin effect on prolactin level increased by dapoxetine
Alfuzosin synergistic effect on EQ combined with tadalafil
Megadose vitamin d3 and enhanced sex drive
As i will have enough time, there will be more informations about these medications. See You later.
Dear Forum Members!
I was here since a long time, and now i would receive new informations.
In 2020 September, i will change my present TRT medications For a different kind of TRT regimen.
I am reading all newbie informations, and TRT Stickies. They are extremely good for beginners like me.
Since 2016 i am on different medications, but solely it is the following:
Clomid 25 mg/day
anastrozole 0,25mg/day
bromocriptin 2,5 mg/day.
I was talked with my doctor, because i would change my TRT regiment.
The effect of my present medications are faded as years goes by, i can see it especially on decreasing my libido.
My doctor told me, the problem is in the Clomiphene, because it has estrogenic effects. Furthermore it can elevate SHBG. My last labs shows Mid-range SHBG.
I was asking my doc to change next time for the following medications:
Androgel 50 mg/day (i hate injecting myself and in my country, here is not available injectable testosterone in any Pharmacies)
Anastrozole 0,25 mg every day (It is necessary when i am on Clomid. )
Hcg 150 - 250 IU 2 times a week (although, i hate injections, i hate testicular shrinkage/ decreased fertility more)
Please comment my New regimen, if any dose/medication is wrong or can change better.
The main goal is to make a TRT regiment, which makes my libido good again. Or maybe a little bit higher, than goodā¦
Iād be interested in your free test and estradiol numbers after clomid therapy and that much Adex per day. What are your test results?
I would guess this is the most likely source of your problems. That is way too much.
Hardartery i agree, my Andrologist told me it is way too much. When i am on clomid the bloodwork shows estradiol way out of range. Of course after i change my regimen i do bloodwork, and i will decrease or leave totally anastrazol. Anyway, without the anastrazol, i feel also very depressed, and hysterical like a furious woman because of clomiphene.
Itās difficult to comment or make any suggestions without bloodwork. My guess, as said by hardartery, is that your E2 is probably crashed with that much Adex. Low E2, for me at least, destroys libido.
If you wonāt or canāt take injectable T, change to androgel/compounded cream. If it was me, Iād drop everything else for now. Test after two months and then adjust. If you want to add HCG do so after youāve got a stable base on T only.
My last lab has Total test 23,7 nmol/l (lab range: 6,1-27) Free testosterone index 54,2% SHBG 43,7 nmol/l (range 13-89)
This is on clomiphene 25mg +arimidex 0,25mg +bromocriptine 2,5 mg daily.
Thanks. Iām not familiar with Bromicriprine at all so canāt comment. It would have been good to see E2 numbers as thatās probably the libido issue. As above, if youāre going to change and wonāt inject, do just T cream for 2 months then reassess. Iād drop HCG for that time.
I will do bloodwork in 1-2 week, it will my last bloodwork on Clomiphene. I am curious about the Androgel+ hCG combo, especially the level of E2.
The main problem is, i have a standard (without any trt medications) Estradiol: 99,5 pmol/l while my total testosterone is 9,4 nmol/l. In my view, i have high aromatization in my body/testes. This is the main reason, i believe to stay on a decreased amount of Arimidex.
HCG aromatises mainly in your testes. This is largely not controlled by Adex. Drop the HCG, drop the Adex, do bloods, assess, find a balance. Then add HCG etc back in as you go if you like. I feel youāre complicating this more than necessary.
Yes, i understand the estradiol increasing effect of too much ITT. The reason, why i will ask my doctor to use hCG is the following. Studies shows that weekly 1000 IU of hCG maintains normal ITT levels while exogenous TRT shuts down LH FSH and ITT.
I appreciate your point of view, and there is possibility, that i am complicating things more than necessary. In my life i often over complicate thingsā¦
Regarding of the adex i agree with your opinion, i read it on very very much topics, that it is poison. If estradiol stays in a not very high level, i will throw away adex from my treatment.
The main goal is for me a decent T level, and i will use every possibility to reach it. In my country we can only buy Androgel from pharmacies. Here is not allowed any kind testosterone injections. Only hCG injections and Androgel. I am afraid one packet per day Androgel will not raise my low T levels enough (50 mg of testosterone, 10% bioavailable=5 mg this is weekly 7*5 mg=35 mg testosterone.) People use usually 200 mg of testosterone injection weekly for the proper results. i afraid my weekly 35 mg from Androgel will be laughably small amount comparing to 200 mg t cypionate weekly.
Maybe it is not a correct calculation, while i still know very much about the optimalisation of TRT protocol. But i am waiting for the corrections or suggestions to make it better.
I may be wrong and dont have conversion tables to hand but 90 odd pmol is not that high for E2. HCG will increase Testosterone but also E2, which is not really impacted by AIās. Iām not sure that your assumption on what the androgel will do is correct but I donāt have much experience with it.