Clomidiphene Citrate for Low Testosterone

Activator,

From what I have seen, the only people who find success on Clomid are those on 12.5 EOD or 12.5 ED. For me, 12.5 shot me to over 1000 ng/dl as opposed to 25mg a day which kept me at 600 with super high estrogen. I felt gains at the gym like you for a short time on Clomid then everything stopped working and actually became worse.

I have belly fat like you, but its a symptom of low t and underactive thyroid… but I think overall, more low t, specificailly belly fat is a specific symptom. I am only fat on my belly, nowhere else and I always exercised.

Glad to hear you are doing good sexually, I wasn’t so lucky. Clomid helped at first then made it impossible to get an erection, even with 100mg of viagra.

KSMAN is right about the thyroid. Unusual TSH is a a symptom but nobody will diagnose you until you get your T3 and T4 checked as well. I never tested for T3 because the government testing body refused (even though my doctor ordered it) because my TSH was “in range” on provincial labs, even though by US standards, at 4.97 miu/L it would be considered underactive.

Stress can apparently lower t, but I doubt if you were suffering for a long period of time that your problem would be stress related. I had ample stress as a child, when my problem started at 15. Some people think that stress can destroy your adrenal glands, but it seems to just be a theory that is not proven medically.

You need to do repeat testing for your testosterone to be sure. Temperature is apparently a given for underactive thyroid, like you, I am always under 37 too.

This so interesting to me. Why is the lower dosage more effective at raising levels? Simply less T converting to E and causing a feedback loop? But isn’t the E getting blocked at the pituitary even when it is raised?

I’m on a superhigh dose - 50mg a day. Doctor said he’d back me off to 25 EOD in 4 months.

Not sure but when I reduced the dose to 12.5 Clomid EOD, my testosterone went up and my estrogen went down. Ultimately it didn’t work out for me, even though the numbers made me look good.

I am on testosterone enenthate and hcg which have already given me a boost and for the first week greatly diminished my venous leak.

Glad it’s working out for you. I’m holding out hope for Clomid success. Maybe when my doctor gives me the go-ahead to taper down.

Still, I’m interested to know the mechanisms behind better results from a smaller dosages of this stuff. Guess I’ll hunt around the internet.

How do you feel on Clomid so far?

For me I felt good at 50 for a while before becoming worse then ever.

I had an intense high for a few weeks. Now I’m feeling back to “normal” - that is, feeling bad again.

I just got my latest results back. 150 point bump over the last month. That’s not very big.