Clint Eastwood

@ Maximus: I picked on the RNC because: (1) the original post was about the RNC convention; (2) posters appeared shocked when someone pointed out that the demographic of the GOP was mostly white, conservative, and religious, which is a known fact (and there is nothing inherently wrong or sinister about this fact unless it is used for sinister reasons); (3) I personally believe that the RNC has been aggressive this year in efforts to suppress the minority vote through voter ID laws–and not because of a sincere fear of voter fraud–which is sinister in my opinion for the reason stated in point number 2; and (4) yet the RNC decided this year to place a special emphasis on “diversity” at the convention, which is particularly hypocritical in light of point number 3.

If the line-up of speakers at the RNC convention was randomly more diverse than its base–and race and gender didn’t factor into the line-up decision at all–then I apologize for my wrong assumption. I don’t think my assumption is wrong, however, just as I am also pretty sure the DNC will factor race and gender into its speaker decisions at its convention.

And yes, I believe that both parties are guilty of using social science and Madison Avenue techniques to categorize, divide, and target all of us into groups based on, among other categories, race and gender, for the sole purpose of winning elections. I don’t think this is a secret either and I’m not a fan of it.

http://www.winningcampaigns.org/Winning-Campaigns-Archive-Articles/Micro-Targeting-New-Wave-Political-Campaigning.html

Also, if you show me an instance of the DNC employing strategies for the express purpose of voter suppression by targeting any demographic groups, or supporting policies that promote voter fraud for that matter, I’ll also condemn those actions as well. Target marketing is one thing, but voter fraud and intentional voter suppression is another.

@ Beans: What “affirmative action requirements” do I have? I’m not aware of any, nor am I a fan of affirmative action. For the record, the candidate I most closely identified with this year is Ron Paul, although I don’t agree with all of his positions.

Also, you stated that, “Yes they had women and minority speakers, to show ignorant racists like yourself, that not everyone is a drone and some people can actually think.” I take it this means you agree that they used race and gender as a factor in considering who spoke at the convention. I would agree with you on this point. But I disagree that pointing this out makes me a racist.

You also said that, “They had them speak because they were bright, talented, young conservatives that are looking to make a difference,” and I don’t necessarily disagree with this statement either, but I still think they used race and gender as one factor in making the decisions as to who spoke at the convention. Again, if I am wrong on this assumption I apologize, but you appear to agree that race and gender was at least a factor in the selection criteria.

@ maximus, no, I don’t think the fact that one demographic group statistically favors one candidate over another is inherently “racist,” whether this occurs on one side of the aisle or the other. I also don’t know whether the choice of the DNC chair was “hispandering,” (your term) although it would not surprise me in the least if either party selected a candidate or party member for a position using race or gender as a key criteria if they thought it would win them votes in a key demographic. Again, I am not a fan of this but I believe that is exactly what happens in both parties.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
@ original poster , all the people that disagree with you are from the demographic you have described [/quote]

Except me. I am young, a university student/work at one, rational, and a minority. But you fit right into, “out of touch, delusional,white, and old”

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
are racists but they are almost all white and if you are a white racist you are probably a Republican [/quote]

haha, couldn’t help myself when I saw this[/quote]

You also have minorities as governors…democrats have how many…

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/397329?playlist_id=1031

I know I should not post this here because the ethical stands here are beyond reproach . This is second place I posted this Jon Stewart show , he has reporters go into the convention to look for Minorities . One of my favorite comedy segments I have seen him do [/quote]

Classic…Jon Stewart the shill for the DNC at the RNC trying to make them look bad.

I’M SO SHOCKED!

Oh my gosh what will we ever do now?

LOL Pittski you take the cake.

You post more dumb crap around here than anyone with the exception of HH.[/quote]

I prefer this Zeb to the one that slobbers all over the screen

You take that back!

Clint Eastwood still has his .44 around someplace.

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I personally believe that the RNC has been aggressive this year in efforts to suppress the minority vote through voter ID laws
[/quote]

How does enforcing voter ID laws “suppress the minority vote?” How does that work?

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I personally believe that the RNC has been aggressive this year in efforts to suppress the minority vote through voter ID laws
[/quote]

How does enforcing voter ID laws “suppress the minority vote?” How does that work?[/quote]

I know you know the answer to that , Answer this I voted in the primary in early ballot , No ID required . What about early voting are we going to do away with mail in ballots

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I personally believe that the RNC has been aggressive this year in efforts to suppress the minority vote through voter ID laws
[/quote]

How does enforcing voter ID laws “suppress the minority vote?” How does that work?[/quote]

For example:

http://brennan.3cdn.net/34fc1686e97aea6382_twm6iikbj.pdf

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-08-30/texas-voter-id-law/57435332/1

The current aggressive use of voter ID laws has the same purpose and effect as gerrymandering in swing states.

Here’s a recent example of Gerrymandering:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]gangstpmp3 wrote:
perfect representation of the republican party. out of touch, delusional,white, and old
smh[/quote]

Like the Hollywood crazies that back Obama…Rosie O’donnell, Gina Garafalo, Charlie Sheen…I actually don’t have enough time and patience to post them all.

At least Clint Eastwood has an excuse for his rambling behavior, he’s 82 years old. What is Hollywoods excuse for backing a failed President?

Take a hike…[/quote]

Gold right here!

[quote]stefan128 wrote:

[quote]gangstpmp3 wrote:
perfect representation of the republican party. out of touch, delusional,white, and old
smh[/quote]

People need to quit with relating race to a party. It’s really getting annoying. Quit assuming that Republicans are all white and racist because they don’t like Obama. It’s fucking ignorant.
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It just goes to show how desperate these libs are getting. Anyone who is against them is “racist”. They have no ammunition and they know it so they have to play dirty pool with the race card.

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
For example:

http://brennan.3cdn.net/34fc1686e97aea6382_twm6iikbj.pdf

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-08-30/texas-voter-id-law/57435332/1 [/quote]

No, I still donâ??t understand. The activist judges claim “implicit costs” will prevent black and Hispanic people obtaining photo ID. That doesnâ??t make any sense, as you well know they need photo ID to buy beer at 7/11 or drive or open a bank account. So why donâ??t you answer the question. How do photo ID laws prevent minorities voting?

You mean the activist judge on the panel appointed by George W. Bush?

http://judgepedia.org/index.php/Rosemary_Collyer

I didn’t realize Bush was in the habit of packing the courts with liberal activists.

Why don’t you ask this guy why he thinks voter ID laws will deliver the election for Romney in PA:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
You mean the activist judge on the panel appointed by George W. Bush?
[/quote]

Yes that one and the others…
http://judgepedia.org/index.php/Rosemary_Collyer

Er…can we forget George Bush and get back to the question? How do voter ID laws prevent minorities voting? In light of the fact that they need the same ID to buy a can of beer?

Because;

A) I don’t know the guy.

B) It has nothing to do with my question to you.

So getting back to the question, how do voter ID laws prevent minorities from voting in light of the fact that they need the same ID to buy a can of beer? That’s the question. Forget about Bush and Romney and just concentrate on the question.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
@ original poster , all the people that disagree with you are from the demographic you have described [/quote]

Except me. I am young, a university student/work at one, rational, and a minority. But you fit right into, “out of touch, delusional,white, and old”[/quote]

You’re not rational. And you’re definitely out of touch.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Hats off to the left. Their political strategists are beyond genius.

Not only have they institutionalized racism in America through law and made sure it remains not only a topic of conversation, but a constant thought in people’s mind, they have convinced everyone it is the people on the right that are racists…

It is funny, people will be the first to point out how advertizing can be evil and certain industries should be prohibited from doing it, but no one notices when the same tactics are used by the government.
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It is funny , you have one side that has made a movie and that side complains about a 20 minut television show . Good stuff[/quote]

What are you talking about?[/quote]

About the campaigns for Presidency
[/quote]

Okay? Still not sure what that had to do with the post of my you quoted. Care to explain?

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
@ Beans: What “affirmative action requirements” do I have? I’m not aware of any, nor am I a fan of affirmative action. [/quote]

LOL. Really. You post a picture and go about minority spotting and then say this?

Do you really not get it?

[quote]

Also, you stated that, “Yes they had women and minority speakers, to show ignorant racists like yourself, that not everyone is a drone and some people can actually think.” I take it this means you agree that they used race and gender as a factor in considering who spoke at the convention. I would agree with you on this point. [/quote]

Yes I’m sure it was considered, but I doubt it was the deciding or sole reason. You sound like Washerman-Shultz here in this thread.

Like these people were brought up on stage as tokens or whatever she said.

Maybe it doesn’t, but minority spotting does.

Because the left and people like you force it to be an issue.

I get it, you don’t see how this works. I was in a similar position in the past. I was just as blinded by bullshit to think the right were the evil racists.

Then I noticed something… Something very odd coming from the party of tolerance. The left would constantly bring up race and demand tolerance through their intolerance. Then I did some reading, and some critical thinking… Now I see what is going on.

You seem bright. You’ll catch on. eventually.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Hats off to the left. Their political strategists are beyond genius.
[/quote]

@ Beans both sides have strategists and the Republicans have it all over the Democrats especially in RE: to money