[quote]rainjack wrote:
vroom wrote:
To translate, we disagree, but you have to attempt to characterize things in a ridiculous way, as usual. Of course this has to do with economic power – however, you are seriously disinterested in why it is happening right now.
Too bad.
I told you why. You want to hypothesize, and get into the Chinese’s heads. It is typical that you need to translate plain English. I say what I say - it needs no thinking tree re-wording.
Stick with the facts. That is what this is about. You want to argue thoughts, and use words like “possible”, “perhaps”, “potentially”.
I don’t play in pretend land. Facts are facts. You have presented none of any relevance. You know this. I know this.
That is the very reason I told you we were about done.
I am just a bit amused that you call it sad when people don’t want to play your game…or sit under your thinking tree. [/quote]
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
hedo wrote:
If anything this administration has identified the problem and is taking steps to try and fix it. Simply having a policy of “not offending” the Chinese whether they are doing something wrong or not is silly. Smaller nations may have to toe that line but any G8 nation nation and should not.
I don’t understand why free floating their currency is bad? They are making it available to more people than just the US to invest in. Is that not how the free market should operate?
And just to reiterate: if this were a free market economy we would not have government intervention in currency markets.[/quote]
China IS depressing their currency not free floating it. That’s what the US is complaining about.
The US wants less government involvement in currency valuation not more. The US is the proponent of the free market not China.
Currency trading is pretty free despite targets set by larger nations.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
The only viewpoint you have offered is “Blame Bush”.
Is that what you are going to stick with?
There is nothing left to discuss, then.
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In your peurile mischaracterizations, that is what you’ve reduced it to. So, sure, why bother continuing?
I’ll still call bullshit on your idiocy when I see it, but starting another thread? You really need to get a life. [/quote]
Starting a thread? I’m pretty sure one will come along without me having to start one. I’m pretty sure if I bother to voice an opinion you’ll jump in with the usual mischaracterizations and attacks.
You don’t seem to be in a position to offer opinions on needing to get a life.
[quote]vroom wrote:
In your peurile mischaracterizations, that is what you’ve reduced it to. So, sure, why bother continuing?[/quote]
The only opinion you have offered is the first line in your first post in this thread. Oh you have attempted to back it up with references to USSC nominees, and other tertiary stuff, but if I am missing a pint in your drivel - please let me know. I asked you to state it in a bulleted list, but evidently that is just too much to ask of you.
One must realize that your government has put your country in this position.
I have a hot as hell wife, two straight A kids, 2 dogs, and two jobs.
When you get half of that - let me know, and I will stop laughing at your vroomalixious attempt to speak out of your ass.
[quote]hedo wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
hedo wrote:
If anything this administration has identified the problem and is taking steps to try and fix it. Simply having a policy of “not offending” the Chinese whether they are doing something wrong or not is silly. Smaller nations may have to toe that line but any G8 nation nation and should not.
I don’t understand why free floating their currency is bad? They are making it available to more people than just the US to invest in. Is that not how the free market should operate?
And just to reiterate: if this were a free market economy we would not have government intervention in currency markets.
China IS depressing their currency not free floating it. That’s what the US is complaining about.
The US wants less government involvement in currency valuation not more. The US is the proponent of the free market not China.
Currency trading is pretty free despite targets set by larger nations.
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I do not understand what the US are trying to do.
More tariffs means higher costs for US consumers. A rising Yuan means more costs for US consumers.
That many Americans still have not felt the consequences of side ways moving wages, inflation and falling dollar is partly because of cheap chinese imports.
To fuck with those Americans before the next elections makes no sense.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
You insinuated that I should get a life. I showed you that I have one.
Either trot out your resume, or stop offering up empty insults. [/quote]
Empty insults? What do you call your own insinuations? You need to play by the same rules you set up for others, or simply recognize the fact that you are the schoolyard bully around these parts.
Yell loudest, insult the hardest, and simply drive out anyone that doesn’t agree with your viewpoint. You are the lowest common denominator of an Internet forum.
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