No, that’s what it sounds like to me. The passage you shared says they’re going to do a study that will give them characteristics to use in identifying potential victims and perps.
In order to provide social services, right? I don’t know of anyone who claimed this was a bad idea. Are you implying a connection to police profiling for crimes? Perhaps you should start another thread to make a tangential political point. [/quote]
Why would I need another thread? I’m just underscoring what we’re talking about here. But anyways, what profile do we think will emerge after millions are spent? Any one want to take a shot?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Sloth wrote:
AlisaV wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Putting more cops out there helps until the brutality, racial profiling, and harrasment charges start up.
Except that those are real problems, too.
And what happens are cycles of cop “surges” with decreasing crime rates. Followed shortly by mounting complaints of jack booted thuggery in the media. Leading to a police force backing off, resulting in resurgent violent crimes.
Did this happen in NYC?
The complaints are happening, the backing off will follow.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Steely’s thread about gun control got me thinking about Chicago. With crime so pervasive, what can or should be done? A few years back I read up on Giuliani’s successful efforts in NYC, but I can’t remember much beyond getting more cops out on the corners. What do you all think? What can be done? What should be done? Anyone from Chicago want to add some insights?
According to the NYTimes this appears to be the plan right now:
Mr. Huberman�¢??s plan for stemming the violence is built not on guns or security guards but on statistics and probability. A former police officer and transit executive with a passion for data analysis, Mr. Huberman believes that the school system can systematically identify the students who are most at risk of becoming involved in future violence, either as perpetrators or as victims, by intensively studying past incidents.
With $60 million in federal stimulus grant money, Mr. Huberman�¢??s plan uses a formula gleaned from an analysis of more than 500 students who were shot over the last several years to predict the characteristics of potential future victims, including when and where they might be attacked. While other big city school districts, including New York, have tried to focus security efforts on preventing violence, this plan would go further by identifying the most vulnerable students and saturating them with adult attention, including giving each of them a paid job and a local advocate who would be on call for support 24 hours a day.
Profiling?[/quote]
Yes, the “urban” schools in the “high crime” neighborhoods. Might as well notify the ACLU so they can get their lawsuit started.
Maybe Chicago will become like Detroit. I’ve heard Waukegan is filling up with illegal immigrants driving the “tax payers” out. I wonder how much of this is happening in Chicago proper?
I also, tbh, like the long term solution – I don’t know if there are real life examples of such a “virtuous gun culture” but in principle it would be great.[/quote]
There are examples of the long term solution in action, but nobody really ever pays attention to them. Also they are nowhere near the size of metropolitan Chicago.