Canada Asks Drug Makers to Stop Marketing Opioids

Absolutely. Months prior he had been kicked out of his mom’s house for stealing her money to pay for the coke. He eventually transitioned to breaking into cars.

I can’t tell you with absolute certainty, but from the way she lives I assume she can no longer afford it and isn’t willing to go to jail to fuel her habit.

No, but they’re drugs that effect you chemically with large impact on your decision making abilities.

Edit: fwiw I don’t really have a problem with shrooms

Cause they are awesome, duh!!

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Which will maintain the status quo of “we’ll be good little graying atomized consumer-citizens.”

Wouldn’t hurt, yeah.

The whole drugs are a victimless crime thing has been disproven millions of times.

Ask any family member of any drug addict or alcoholic ever.

I mean, shit, I watched my dad drink himself to death legally. Mom committed suicide when she didn’t/couldn’t get clean, and the list goes on and on.

If watching someone you love kill them self day after day, legal or not, doesn’t affect a person then they are missing something essential and constituent to humanity.

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Whoa…
I am sorry to hear that. That’s really awful that happened to you.

I would agree it’s not a victimless crime, although someone can come up with some very rare hypothetical to show when it would be, but, is the solution to throw addicts in prison? The crime is perpetrated by victims.

Is the solution to throw people that commit crimes in a place where we send criminals***

I don’t believe that prison is a solution. It may (and that’s like a sliver width of wiggle room for the rationale that it may help) provide time and opportunity to get clean but it is not designed to help. Its a penalty.

I believe (and live by it) that it should be treated through the appropriate mental health channels.

Not a free pass for people that have committed crimes to obtain their drug of choice though. Robbery and assault are crimes. Active addiction is a state or condition. Two separate things.

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Wish I could like more than once.

We don’t throw all those convicted of crimes in prison.

Agreed. I should clarify my above to state I don’t have a problem with people doing drugs (obv). I just think there are a fair number of them, that to keep use down and especially out of the hands of kids who don’t know better, that should remain illegal.

I don’t want grenades legalized, not because of the 20% that would do it responsibly without sagging society, but because of the 80% that wouldn’t.

Its part of life. Thanks for your thought.

Its interesting though, the way you phrased that.

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Not that I fully disagree but I just have a hard time getting over the fact that alcohol is legal but street drugs are not. Steroids should be legal, too.

Why can’t people be in charge of their own lives?

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100% agreed

Because they will make poor decisions then demand (vote) for society to pay for their poor decisions.

I really do agree with you though. It’s a weird gray area for me. If there was a way to legalize drugs without the inevitable soul sucking drain on the rest of us, I’d be totally on board

Ya, I’m not for that either.

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But we are already paying.

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Oh, I know. Still not a fan of it… I tend to agree with you on this topic, though.

Theres no real way to know if the payments would increase or decrease if all drugs were legalized

That’s pretty extremely shitty for anybody to endure, man. I know you probably are not to keen on talking much about it and I don’t blame you, but that’s more than part of life. That’s pretty extreme by any measure.
If it’s any consolation, I think they turned out a really cool son…