I’m quite literally at ground zero for this in western PA. My next door neighbor has been dragged out and revived by paramedics 3 times this year alone. One of these days they aren’t going to make it.
One of my in-laws is an emt in a much more rural southern county where response times can be much slower than middle class suburbia here. Their chances of getting there in time and reviving an od are slim to none, and they’ve had record breaking use and overdose deaths in recent years.
That is sickening…when you get to the point of basically passing away, completely giving your life away not once but several times?? That is just beyond help IMO.
Curious about the legality of this? Maybe PA is different, but why wouldn’t the police come and take this dude away? I mean its not as if he “accidently” took the wrong thing once. If you’re dosing up so much and so often that you’re dying and being revived a few times in a year, aren’t you a danger to yourself and others? They’d have to assume the guy has illegal drugs in his home right?
These are the folks I was talking about earlier, the one’s who MUST have absolutely zero reason to be alive, nothing to look forward to in their lives to want to just “accidently” nod off and never wake up. Its easier and less traumatic than sticking a gun barrel in your mouth I reckon. My only hope is that they take that road out sooner than later - before they blow through their life savings and children’s inheritance (If there are kids and if there are assets left)
Call me callous or heartless, but to me, less tragic is the basically painless OD death when compared to those parents you see blowing their entire check on dope, losing their jobs, home, splitting up families etc. I’m just not sure what is harder on a child? Having no parent(s) at all or having living junkies who care more about their high than their kids?
I could reply in great detail to all of those points but sometimes Id just rather not revisit those thoughts and times.
Maybe some other time.
I understand, apologies if I’ve accidentally hit a nerve. I definitely respect your view on this subject. From past posts I’ve read, you always have a good perspective on things.
It’s all good, and thanks.
I’ll revisit it in a few days. Things are just a tad crazy at the moment.
Skyzyk, I don’t know what kind of tunes you like, but I ran across this album by a Toronto alternative band called Dilly Dally at an overdose prevention fundraiser.
I am thinking the songs ‘believe in yourself’, ‘sober motel’ and ‘marijuana’ maybe have a ring.
Just venturing this post doesn’t take the thread too far off.
This story is positive in its coverage of the local safe injection site at the city mentioned. It is already known from clinics in Vancouver, on the west coast, and likely those around the world that this is a good idea, but London is setting the precedent for the Province of Ontario, the most populous in the country.
Chief among points mentioned is that the staff are kind and loving, and also that many users surveyed would recommend the clinic to others.
I almost posted the other day that peer influence could be key in getting users to clean their cookers, and peer word of mouth about a clinic such as this is likely to be very important.
Interesting early numbers from Canada’s MJ legalization. Muted effects on the black market sale and limited exchequer benefits.
At the federal level we have the Justin Trudeau Liberals (he is the son of the former Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, but no we don’t have an heriditary dictatorship). He spent a lot of time and effort getting this going, but at the provincial level, such as Ontario where we have a Progressive Conservative Premier (Doug Ford) who has been called Trump north, there is little appetite for making the market easy.
then we have a Federal election this coming October, and there might be a change of government. At least Trudeau has been scandalized a fair bit, so I wonder what voters will do.
I’ve been following the polling (fiancée is Canadian) and it looks like he’s heading for a loss. It’ll be interesting to see.
Ok I haven’t followed this thread much and I don’t know Jack shit about Canadian politics but this dude is Rob Ford’s brother apparently? Like crackhead Rob Ford? (Rip).
Well at least we aren’t the only place who loves to run or put family members in power.
Rob Ford was caught on video at a social housing address getting it on with a crack pipe. He was mayor of Toronto a while back and has been dead for a bit, but Doug more recently became the elected Premier of Ontario.
I noted in this article that if 20% of US demand was met through Canada, our access would be limited to 183 days. I shudder if I need some if this happens.
It seems that this is finally shit totally flying off the fan. One would think that if one small town pharmacy orders a bazillion doses of a drug with illicit value, the seller should suspect diversion to the black market at least, if not the actual pharmacy is selling indiscriminately.
It is a reminder to me of the documentary movie, ‘The Corporation’, in which a large business could be diagnosed as psychopathic.
I am curious if in the American component to this story the Trump government has cumulatively influenced where we are today. Or is it the same thing that would have happened with a Clinton government?
Totally off topic, but it is my thread. I went to an entertainment event the other day and saw a performance of traditional Aztec culture:
https://www.facebook.com/thebigloveecstaticdance/videos/581414472662615/?t=0
I suspect it would have been the same in either administration. Big business is big business in every American government
Agreed. Big pharma is bipartisan. Not sure what left/right platform policy would have made a difference.
Personal responsibility, doctors with illegally shit ethics, and profit focused pharma companies are the problems IMO.
This started a couple of decades ago.
As to drug use in the workplace, I have done it before, lost one job because of it and should have lost another 2 that I somehow didn’t.
What I would do was once I was used to the job, and I knew I was going to be doing rote simple tasks and there was no likely variable coming up, I would choose a day. I would start work sober, then when I had got myself into the groove of the day go to the washroom and drop acid. I would return and let the trip meld in with my work. Once I neglected something and got yelled at, strangely didn’t hear anything about it after that.
Other times I have lit up joints or pipes of cannabis on company property and time. One time I was smoking out back of a restaurant and a manager caught me and asked if I had had a particularly difficult shift, so I knew what to say and maybe got off. Maybe, I don’t know really what he may have said.
these jobs weren’t using power equipment or much of anything that could cause an accident. I wonder what would happen with my last temporary assignment in which I would sling lifting straps over the centreline of pipes and lift them with a crane. One pipe was about 8,000lb, if I had had an accident BOOM.
Truck driving might be as dull as hell, and they are large pieces of power equipment, it is maybe going to get me a bit tense the next time I go down a highway after having read this article.
Haha!
Oh, the ridiculous shit I’ve both done and seen.