Can High DHT Cause Premature Ejaculation?

Well it’s probably because when you first get high it floods your brain with dopamine which only lasts a short time (the euphoric high feeling) and then it goes away. Which is why you need more and Chase the dragon. So after the initial high your brain is flooded with dopamine then gets depleted which makes the feel good feelings diminish making you last longer.

Idk if this is actually how it works but it would make sense

Edit: @anon18050987 is some super scientist and would probably know the answer…care to weigh in?

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well i was dissapointed with priligy 30 and 60mg, i had a bit of a delay but like from 30 seconds to what… 1 minute? befire i had to stop to avoid more involuntary kegels and cumming

im considering nuking my dht with dutasteride, im fucked lossing my hair fast as fuck as i approach 30 anyway, imagine being a horny premature ejaculating cueball

Like I said previously, I had never heard of " Dapoxetine , marketed as Priligy and Westoxetin" until you posted. Interesting reading and not available in the USA … of course, I don’t need it as my problem is the extreme polar opposite of yours.
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I suggested desensitizing sprays in my last post. Have you tried any yet??

Alrightah, haven’t made any decent, contributes in a while so I’ll give an explanation here. A crucial portion of addiction to opiates lies within the over expression of delta fos B (gene) in a portion of the brain known as the accumbens nucleus as well as dysregulation of dopamine transmission (opiates bind to opiate receptors in of the accumbent nucleus, send signals towards dopamergic pathways to release more dopamine, exact mechanism isn’t entirely known I believe, however this may have been updated). An interesting theory is that opiate receptor binding decreases the release of gaba on a receptor level, gaba inhibits dopamine secretion, this theory is plausible as the accumbens nucleus contains gaba receptors. Furthermore, opiates somehow activate the mesolimbic reward system, of which can signal the VTA (part of the brain) to release dopamine (of which would be released into the accumbens nucleus), this would create a sense/ feeling of pleasure, of which certain parts of the brain (involving conditional memory) would come to quickly associate the taking of X substance with the feeling of pleasure and overwhelming bliss.

Withdrawl symptoms of opiates appear to be caused by over expression and dysregulation of insulin receptor substrates (1 and 2 depending on which literature we look at), a decrease in MTORC2 activity (regulates cellular metabolism via interaction between mtor and rictor) and a few others I can’t really remember and can’t be bothered to look for as I’m currently also studying for exams thus this response is required to be somewhat snappy as I’m going back and fourth between tasks. Opiates (well, morphine at least) also unfortunately reduces the size of neuronal soma while consequently increasing neuronal excitability in VTA. Furthermore it’s hypothesized dysregulation of CREB, CAMP/PKA in the locus caerules (or however you spell it) is also likely a major portion of why opiates induce dependence. Similar up regulation of these pathways is also evident with many other drugs of addiction, however typically the up regulation appears to be in the accumbens nucleus with most drugs, as with opiates (not sure if it’s also in the AN but it def occurs in the LC)

Due to the various inhibitory and dysregulative properties of opiates, when discontinued the inhibitory effects of opiates on various genes is gone, excess CAMP is released into the NA (prior to inhibition of enzyme that converts ATP to CAMP occurs), dopamine production goes through the floor, user feels shit… Prolonged use of opiates cause adaptations on a cellular level that prevent the aforementioned inhibitory changes/dysregulations occurring, thus tolerance develops and the same “high” isn’t present, thus higher doses are needed for increased neuronal excitability, dopamine secretion, the same pleasurable feeling some people get.

This is how I understand it anyhow (and there’s far more complex mechanisms involved too of which I haven’t ever read up on)

Sexual dysfunction… Well firstly opiates decrease sensation (they decrease pain, sensation, create a feeling of numbness), a feeling of stimulation is partially involved in achieving orgasm. Secondly opiates (aside from tapentadol and somewhat buprenorphine but tapentadol is the only opiate shown to have next to no effect at all) decrease GNRH production, thus causing a lack in LH/FSH causing secondary hypogonadism (domino effect), idk about you but when I had hypogonadism reaching orgasm became a chore (if I even wanted to jerk off that is). The increased dopamine secretion may increase libido somewhat (as mesolimbic pathways are pivotal for libido and erectile maintenance/achieving a boner), however the lack of ability to feel stimulation (while some is in the mind, I find that I can’t cum from thinking or watching porn without touching myself lol) may be the cause as to why y’all can’t ejaculate while recreationally (or medicinally using) opiates.

Opiates are fucking evvvvilllll, drugs, they can seriously ruin lives if abused (sometimes), I’ve fucking seen drug addiction turn people into complete hollowed out shells of their former selves. While some of it no doubt genetic presdisposition, there is no denying that opiates such as oxycodone, hydrocodone, morphine, diacetylmorphine and fentanyl are probably the most habit forming and depending causing drugs on the planet… Tread carefully if you’re using this stuff (recreationally or medicinally). While I don’t condone recreational use of pain medication, as a matter of fact I think it’s a really bad idea due to the risk of addiction/development of cravings, people will always do these things, thus the best way to go about it (I believe) is to dispense advice catered towards the minimisation of harm while making sure the other party knows you don’t condone or wish to enforce/support their actions in any way or form.

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Opiates are in fact the worse. I was an addict for 5 years and am now over 3 years clean and will never go back.

Honestly I felt guilty saying pop a few perks so you can last longer. If you have an addictive personality I would find a different way to go about this than this. The worst part is doctors hand them out like candy too all for a vicious cycle of :moneybag:

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Ye, I’ve seen what they do to people (regarding withdrawals, impairment when strung out, what people will do to acquire more, be it stealing, lying cheating etc.) Then when they seriously can’t afford the pain pills/ other substituted opiates its typically a move to heroin :frowning: of which is being laced with fentanyl more and more nowadays leading to catastrophic and deadly outcomes :frowning:

Opiates are fucked, I’ve taken them (via script) for chronic pain. To be honest they never really “did it” for me regarding a feeling of euphoria, Oxycodone strangely enough would give me what one might call mild hallucinations (made my vision very blurry and I’d see people as shadows, couldn’t distinguish people)… Not a great experience in a public place when you’re not expecting it…

I’d never EVER say pop a few percocets to last longer, firstly percocets have acetomitrophren in them, I wouldn’t take more than 1000mg acetomitrophren at a time due to safety concerns, so that’s like 2.5-3 percocets max, secondly they’re soooooo addictive. Tramadol I guess is somewhat less addictive, but regardless, opiates are not used to treat premature ejaculation, if you said op was having a panic attack and had nothing else I could see the logic behind popping a perc as a one off IF there was NO alternative and all other avenues had been exhausted. Even then though I wouldn’t recommend it, that’s a slippery slope down abuse Avenue

There are certain condoms out there that’ll numb you’re penis, op could potentially try one of those… But then again why would you want to get a BJ with a condom on… I suppose you could go straight to PIV (or whatever orifice) sex

imma pick up fortacin spray on the pharmacy, i’ll test is asap with porn

Y’all better be careful last guy on the forums that’s started spraying his junk with over the counter shit ended up with flat dick.

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what was the spray?

fortacin is APPROVED and sold on pharmacy, not online chinese crap… it should be OK

i will try different doses, you can use up to 3 sprays, so one on your frenulum, then around the glans

fortacin is composed of lidocaine and prilocaine

this + small 25mg viagra combo and maybe even add 30mg pills which i still got a couple… if that does nothing what the fuck im supposed to do

i just hope the spray is enough becuase priligy is EXPENSIVE AS FUCK

I think it was actually a cream or something that was supposed to make his dick bigger.

Call me old fashion but when it comes to rubbing cream or spraying shit on my dick I just can’t do it.

I understand this is a serious matter for you but judt remember it’s always better to be able tk get hard and bust to early then to end up with a wet noodle for life.

I read a few studies on this a couple of months ago. MDMA floods serotonin receptors, so many Ravers follow-up with a stupid high dose of 5-HTP a day or so later to bridge the come down. This kills the serotonin production for a while until things can regenerate, you basically shoot your entire load of possible serotonin and are left flat. This results in an over-abundance of dopamine because the production of both of them lives in a balance, but you run a huge dopamine deficit by the time the 5-HTP is leaving the system. Too much 5-HTP kills your dopamine production, and it can go the other way too. I found the information while researching dopamine and trying to figure out some things with my ADD. Mucuna Pruriens does dick all for me, but theoretically it should be some kind of magic key for someone with low dopamine.

how the fuck would you get a permanent limp dick by spraying fortacin on your dick

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Did I say he would?

I said be careful about putting these creams and sprays on your penis.

I dont think the person who rubbed penis growth cream on his dong ever thought he would run into issues either.

Shit happens.

But… Did the cream work?

From what I remember he mentioned some nice gainzzzzz. Then once he stopped it went flat😔

i dont understand how do people last long with your dick on a hot chicks mouth like i cant fucking fathom it

gotta spray the shit out of my dick with fortacin hope it works

You dont clean the pipes ahead of time? During my bar hopping days, part of pre-game was to always clean the pipes.

I can’t even really nut from just a blow job. I mean she’s gotta really use the hand with it for that to happen.

Even sometimes sex will take me a good 20-30 mins it’s like I have to build up threw multiple forms of stimulation (visual, mental). This can be annoying because my wife knows there is no such thing as a quickie I feel like if I could bust quick she would probably let me have a go more then once a day or every other day.

Altho i did manage to shoot one out in about 4 mins in the Nordstrom dressing room with her the other week. But that’s rare for it to be thag quick.

Anyways my point is lasting forever is not all it’s hyped up to be

Probably due to the excitement/taboo mature of the environment, the fear of getting, the illicit nature of the public activity caught makes it hotter. Have you tried spicing things up/adding in a bit of kink factor, it may be just what you need to decrease you’re nut time… I can’t imagine you’d be pumping too fast in a dressing room, people would probably hear would they not (the sound of slapping flesh is pretty distinct lol)

Some people film their escapades, I wouldn’t recommend this unless you don’t mind that kind of thing. One of my buddies films his sex with his gf of like 4 years (I think they’re gonna get married within the next few years, which makes me a bit uneasy as they’re so young)

Yea, I’ve had people tell me they cum instantly from a BJ and others tell me it’s not that great/it’s impossible to cum from a BJ.

I get the feeling sensitivity (amt of nerve endings) might have something to do with it. I’m curcumsized and thus an element of decreased sensitivity does exist.

That and how good the girl/guy is at giving head

I’d love to hear your thoughts on why SSRI’s mess with dick sensitivity. I started on lexipro a while back and lost quite a bit of feeling in my dick.