California's $16 Billion Debt

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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Maximus - You’re really bringing me down! Seriously good points. I think a lot of people are unaware. So, where are you planning to move, or are you going to stay and watch it go down?

UtahLama - I had to tease you about Utah food. I lived there for 5 years during college. I thought I was going to freeze to death! I suffer terribly if the temps drop below 55 degrees. :slight_smile: And believe me, there wasn’t any good ethnic food back then. Glad to hear that’s changing. Beautiful state, although not as pretty as Colorado IMO. Lots of nice people. And more to the point, they actually have a sane state budget process last time I checked.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
This was all done intentionally.

Unions own ALL the Democrats in the legislature, and they threaten to fund an opponent if you do not go along with their bidding.

This has now reached the threshold of what California can take.

You cannot absorb 1/3 of the entire country’s welfare.

You cannot take on the highest number of illegal aliens the country holds.

You cannot have the highest paid teachers (k-12) in the country, with a 60% dropout rate.

You cannot be voted the WORST BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT 8 years in a row.

You cannot spend 3 times what Texas spends on the prison system.

You cannot pass and enact a MOTHER FUCKING STOOOPID Global Warming Act, which does nothing but raise costs of businesses who emit carbon emissions, only to watch those very same businesses leave to more business-friendly states.

You cannot have the highest taxes in the country.

You cannot have a law that mandates that 40% of the entire state budget allocated strictly to education.

You cannot protect teachers from being fired to the point where a teacher can feed his students semen-covered cookies and STILL not get fired. (See Mark Berndt story for this).

You cannot add 10 million people to the population, only to have 150,000 of them as tax-filers. Look at “California’a Greek Tragedy”…

It’s really depressing, my wifes grandparents have a cabin on the way to Tahoe (not in Tahoe) that we were hoping to buy from them in a few years (so they could move to Colorado and have assistance from family out here). But now they can’t sell the place without losing their ass.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
This was all done intentionally.

Unions own ALL the Democrats in the legislature, and they threaten to fund an opponent if you do not go along with their bidding.

This has now reached the threshold of what California can take.

You cannot absorb 1/3 of the entire country’s welfare.

You cannot take on the highest number of illegal aliens the country holds.

You cannot have the highest paid teachers (k-12) in the country, with a 60% dropout rate.

You cannot be voted the WORST BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT 8 years in a row.

You cannot spend 3 times what Texas spends on the prison system.

You cannot pass and enact a MOTHER FUCKING STOOOPID Global Warming Act, which does nothing but raise costs of businesses who emit carbon emissions, only to watch those very same businesses leave to more business-friendly states.

You cannot have the highest taxes in the country.

You cannot have a law that mandates that 40% of the entire state budget allocated strictly to education.

You cannot protect teachers from being fired to the point where a teacher can feed his students semen-covered cookies and STILL not get fired. (See Mark Berndt story for this).

You cannot add 10 million people to the population, only to have 150,000 of them as tax-filers. Look at “California’a Greek Tragedy”…

Democrats think that reality is ultimately pliabe, which includes human beings. This allows them to rule with whips and guns.

Democrats are also mystics, demanding that reality fit to their whims, like the religious people we see on here. They are all demented.

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HH,

I consider myself pretty normal, I like fiscally conservative but socially neutral. California is the best example of pure Democratic rule for DECADES. Businesses fleeing in droves, wealthy and middle class people leaving, only to have poor and uneducated to move in. More and more people on the dole, with no way to pay for it. THIS IS HOW WE (CALIFORNIA) GOT HERE.

You have been warned my friends, do not let this Liberal fucking stupidity take root in your city and state.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:
No sleep till Brooklyn?

U mad?[/quote]

Lol

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Hey I did see this in the paper this morning - Police shot and killed a mountain lion found in an office building courtyard in downtown Santa Monica.

Isn’t living in California cool? And dangerous.

Back on topic - You’ll love this from the May 19th OC Register.

"Jerry Brown is a bad guesser. On Monday he said the budget deficit will be $15.7 billion, 70 percent higher than his guess in January when he said it would be $9.2 billion. Wrong again. On Friday the independent Legislative Analyst said it will be $17 billion. Who knows what it will be by the time you read this? Certainly not Brown. . . .

Brown wants voters to believe the government is impoverished, that colleges are about to crumble, teachers will queue up in soup lines, and beaches will be overrun with grunion. OK, the grunion scare may not be on Brown’s list of alarming warnings. Yet.

The fact is, California’s state budget spends $30 billion more than was spent on all state government functions in 2007-08, at the peak of the pre-recession bubble. That’s a 15-percent increase. Are you spending 15 percent more than you spent in 2007-08?

Indeed, Brown proposes increasing spending for K-12 schools from $29.3 billion in last year’s budget to $34.0 billion by the end of 2013. That’s austerity necessitated by poverty?"

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[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Hey I did see this in the paper this morning - Police shot and killed a mountain lion found in an office building courtyard in downtown Santa Monica.

Isn’t living in California cool? And dangerous.

Back on topic - You’ll love this from the May 19th OC Register.

"Jerry Brown is a bad guesser. On Monday he said the budget deficit will be $15.7 billion, 70 percent higher than his guess in January when he said it would be $9.2 billion. Wrong again. On Friday the independent Legislative Analyst said it will be $17 billion. Who knows what it will be by the time you read this? Certainly not Brown. . . .

Brown wants voters to believe the government is impoverished, that colleges are about to crumble, teachers will queue up in soup lines, and beaches will be overrun with grunion. OK, the grunion scare may not be on Brown’s list of alarming warnings. Yet.

The fact is, California’s state budget spends $30 billion more than was spent on all state government functions in 2007-08, at the peak of the pre-recession bubble. That’s a 15-percent increase. Are you spending 15 percent more than you spent in 2007-08?

Indeed, Brown proposes increasing spending for K-12 schools from $29.3 billion in last year’s budget to $34.0 billion by the end of 2013. That’s austerity necessitated by poverty?"

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This is awesome…the Cali way…when in doubt, spend the shit out of your deficit.

We will happily take all of your tech companies who will flee the enormous tax hikes that are sure to follow this rosy forecast.

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[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Hey I did see this in the paper this morning - Police shot and killed a mountain lion found in an office building courtyard in downtown Santa Monica.

Isn’t living in California cool? And dangerous.

Back on topic - You’ll love this from the May 19th OC Register.

"Jerry Brown is a bad guesser. On Monday he said the budget deficit will be $15.7 billion, 70 percent higher than his guess in January when he said it would be $9.2 billion. Wrong again. On Friday the independent Legislative Analyst said it will be $17 billion. Who knows what it will be by the time you read this? Certainly not Brown. . . .

Brown wants voters to believe the government is impoverished, that colleges are about to crumble, teachers will queue up in soup lines, and beaches will be overrun with grunion. OK, the grunion scare may not be on Brown’s list of alarming warnings. Yet.

The fact is, California’s state budget spends $30 billion more than was spent on all state government functions in 2007-08, at the peak of the pre-recession bubble. That’s a 15-percent increase. Are you spending 15 percent more than you spent in 2007-08?

Indeed, Brown proposes increasing spending for K-12 schools from $29.3 billion in last year’s budget to $34.0 billion by the end of 2013. That’s austerity necessitated by poverty?"

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Yes, I heard about this driving to Oxnard for the Strawberry Festival. Crazy.

Jerry Brown is a mother fucking old, bald, lying piece of shit.

He said the bullet train would be $68 Billion, it’s projected to be over $200 Billion and done by the year 2035.

LA passed a ban on plastic bags, in attempts to promote reusable bags. Hello E. Coli outbreak.

We are close, VERY close, we are almost embracing ruin. Schools are fucked, roads are gone, traffic sucks, no jobs, highest taxes, 1/3 of the country’s welfare, highest number of illegal aliens, college tuition going up each month, voted worst business environment 8 years in a row.

Broke-i-fornia has a nice ring to it.

My friends, soon our state is going to ask for a bailout, please don’t give it to us. We need to fall off the cliff, so I am asking you nicely, to let us go quietly into that goodnight.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

My friends, soon our state is going to ask for a bailout, please don’t give it to us. We need to fall off the cliff, so I am asking you nicely, to let us go quietly into that goodnight.[/quote]

If Greece is any yardstick you wont go quietly.

In related news, Greece is probably going to drop out of the Eurozone soon, apparently EU governments are getting super secret suggestions that it might be a good idea to prepare for that.

So, drop out of the Dollar, adopt the Peso, problem solved.

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No, we are taking on the peso.

The people are sick and tired of the bullshit, so we our changing shit our damn selves.

You are going to see $18 Billion in cuts, and yes the rioting will begin soon.

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[quote]Menthol wrote:

“… when government gets bigger, citizens behave much worse. They get arrogant, greedy, envious. They talk more about how much time they can take off, or when the next vacation comes.
Instead of building this country for a brighter tomorrow, they attack those who work hard, prosper and create jobs…”

Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/government/2012/05/15/cornering-market-on-absurdities/#ixzz1v3xRAt1Y[/quote]

You know, not that the Roman empire analogy hasn’t been done to death already or anything, but it’s really scary how that exact same thing has happened in history and exactly how it has ruined great nations and empires. History is enlightening, if one only has the courage to take the lessons seriously in the present.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Well folks, we are officially Greek now.
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Too easy…