Bush Approval Below 40%

Pssst, Rainjack, I think if you go back and look you’ll see that both equations were basically the same.

I suspect “more shit” didn’t mean “MORE shit”, just that both result in shit. So, getting slighted just shows your proclivity to look for insult where none is present…

I think we were talking about that recently.

[quote]vroom wrote:
Pssst, Rainjack, I think if you go back and look you’ll see that both equations were basically the same.

I suspect “more shit” didn’t mean “MORE shit”, just that both result in shit. So, getting slighted just shows your proclivity to look for insult where none is present…

I think we were talking about that recently.[/quote]

Vroom - you are a blathering idiot. Everyone has talked about that before - yet you continue slay windmills. Great job, Don.

Rainjack, given that you wake up cranky, I take it you are just plain mean and cranky all day long?

Again, I don’t think you are qualified to go around calling people idiots… read into that whatever you like.

[quote]vroom wrote:
Rainjack, given that you wake up cranky, I take it you are just plain mean and cranky all day long?

Again, I don’t think you are qualified to go around calling people idiots… read into that whatever you like.[/quote]

Compared to you, vroom - I am imminently qualified. Read into that whatever YOU like.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
cancer wrote:
maybe you all don’t care about this one that much… but non-Americans have been tired of Bush gang for years.

Because Bush generally puts American interests first he has proven to be unpopular around the world. [/quote]

I’m just curious, what were the “American interests”? and are you better off because he put those “interests” first?

I’m not trying to start an argument here, just asking for your view.

[quote]cancer wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
cancer wrote:
maybe you all don’t care about this one that much… but non-Americans have been tired of Bush gang for years.

Because Bush generally puts American interests first he has proven to be unpopular around the world.

I’m just curious, what were the “American interests”? and are you better off because he put those “interests” first?

I’m not trying to start an argument here, just asking for your view.
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I’s easy. When you see the phrase “American interests”, just substitute “Exxon”, or “Unocal” or “Halliburton” for “American” and you’ll figure out why Bush is doing what he’s doing.

As much as i like or dislike any one side…I have to say i find it AMAZING the things the right-wing-machine is able to do to people. The sheer amount of damage control, and the amount they inflict, is stunning.

Kerry a flip flopper… I can link to a video of GWBush contradicting himself several times over in a matter of years, but they never brought that up.

Liberal government does nothing but spend spend spend… Yet the only presidents in recent memory who have put us in a deficit are…CONSERVATIVES!! Reagon and both Bush’s have done nothing but put us in a defecit, clinton put is in a HUUUGE surplus…yet its the liberals that spend spend spend!

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
As much as i like or dislike any one side…I have to say i find it AMAZING the things the right-wing-machine is able to do to people. The sheer amount of damage control, and the amount they inflict, is stunning.

Kerry a flip flopper… I can link to a video of GWBush contradicting himself several times over in a matter of years, but they never brought that up.

Liberal government does nothing but spend spend spend… Yet the only presidents in recent memory who have put us in a deficit are…CONSERVATIVES!! Reagon and both Bush’s have done nothing but put us in a defecit, clinton put is in a HUUUGE surplus…yet its the liberals that spend spend spend![/quote]

You must be right. It’s all about the spin machine. 51% of the voting public must be toe-headed idiots. How else would they elect Bush twice? They have to be drinking the kool-aid.

And all of the Republican congressmen that have beaten out the left since 1994 - they must be employing some sort of covert mind-control technique that blinds them to the obvious truth you have just spoken.

Or you could just be flat out wrong.

I vote for the latter.

[quote]rainjack wrote:

You must be right. It’s all about the spin machine. 51% of the voting public must be toe-headed idiots. How else would they elect Bush twice? They have to be drinking the kool-aid.
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Haha. I didn’t want to be the first one to say it, but…

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
rainjack wrote:

You must be right. It’s all about the spin machine. 51% of the voting public must be toe-headed idiots. How else would they elect Bush twice? They have to be drinking the kool-aid.

Haha. I didn’t want to be the first one to say it, but…[/quote]

But even if they did drink kool-aid, they still have better cognative skills than the other 49%. At least they have since 1994 anyway.

thabigdon24… you’re right, heaven forbid someone on this website be sexist or attack someone for making a dumb ass comment like the one WMD made. I was totally out of line.

Professor X…I gave my opinion, I am not here to convince you that I am right and you are wrong. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion.

[quote]cancer wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
cancer wrote:
maybe you all don’t care about this one that much… but non-Americans have been tired of Bush gang for years.

Because Bush generally puts American interests first he has proven to be unpopular around the world.

I’m just curious, what were the “American interests”? and are you better off because he put those “interests” first?

I’m not trying to start an argument here, just asking for your view.
[/quote]

Two quick examples.

Pulling out of Kyoto. This was a bad treaty that would have harmed the US economy while doing nothing to limit CO2 production from two major growing energy consumers (China and India).
The rest of the world didn’t like it, but it was clearly the right move.

Going ahead with the anti ballistic missle program. A treaty that was signed with a country that does not exist anymore (USSR) was rightfully null and void. It is in our best interests to build a defensive missle shield (assuming we are technologically capable).

These two moves created ill will around the world and I don’t care. They were the right moves.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Going ahead with the anti ballistic missle program. A treaty that was signed with a country that does not exist anymore (USSR) was rightfully null and void. It is in our best interests to build a defensive missle shield (assuming we are technologically capable).

These two moves created ill will around the world and I don’t care. They were the right moves.[/quote]

We don’t yet know if that last issue was the correct move or made at the right time. From http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/12/13/rec.bush.abm/

“the missile defense system could have been tested without breaching the ABM treaty. Daschle said pulling out was ‘a high price to pay for testing that was not required this early in the schedule for missile defenses.’”

The opinion that our testing would have bumped into the confines of the treaty seems to largely be just that…opinion.

Also, I am not quite sure why no one seems to worry about China. From the same site:

"China’s President Jiang Zemin, who has expressed perhaps the greatest concern over the U.S. withdrawal, told Bush he “looked forward to further high-level dialogue on the topic,” Fleischer said.

The Chinese, who have a much smaller nuclear arsenal than Russia, are concerned that the U.S. national missile defense plan could be used to block their missiles, thereby upsetting the nuclear balance of power. Critics have said the move could push China to add more nuclear weapons to its stockpile, reigniting the arms race. "

Again, we won’t know if this was the right move at the right time for years to come. Jumping on the bandwagon now seems unwise to me.

Prof X, We should not be interested in having a balance of power with China in the nuke department. We should have the big stick.

I am a big supporter of missle defense if it works.

I see no drawback. I understand the theory that China or Russia will decide they have to nuke us before our defense shield goes on line, but I don’t believe it.

[quote]ZEB wrote:
WMD wrote:

You are SO going to hell…

WMD has proclaimed herself Goddess over all! LOL[/quote]

Such a slow boy…

[quote]rainjack wrote:
WMD wrote:
Let’s see, you completely miss the point of this post but I’m the one who isn’t very bright. Interesting. Did you actually read it or did you just see my avatar and have a hissy fit?

No - I understand the point of your post. Now what you wrote and what you think you wrote may not jive - but that is more of a YP than an OP.

You first remark was an equation that insinuated that the right manipulates polls, and media. I simply responded to that. The right could give a shit about the polls - unlike the perpetually in need of validation left that lives off polling data.

I’ll type slower. Do try to keep up.

Coming from you - that’s…well…cute. Tell me - are you the pot or the kettle?

I was not referring to W’s interest or lack thereof in political polls. I was remarking upon the artificiality of the rightleft polemics that are polarizing the country.

Just curious as to why - if that is truly what you were trying to say - you contribute to this artificiality by impuning those of a more conservative bent with your political math skills? I guess it’s Reagan’s fault, or Bush I’s, or Bush II’s. Couldn’t possibly be any of the rocket scientists standing on the left, huh?

As for the clarity of your message - I’ll tell you like an old Mexican hand told me one summer, “I can’t read your mind by looking at your ass”.

You let me know if you need help understanding that. Oh…and you might want to take in a math class, or two before combining it with poly-sci. It just makes you look even stupider.

Did that clear it up for you or did I use too many polysyllabic words?

Just because you do the Jumble every morning, and you have the word of the day emailed to you on yahoo ddosen’t mean that anyone else sees you for the genius you fashion yourself to be. But if it’ll give you some validation, and boost your frail ego -

Please quit using such big werds. U R so smart. U make me fill dum.

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So it was a hissy fit.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
WMD wrote:
brainfreez wrote:
Does approval rating matter at all? He’s not running for re-election. he could be in the single digits he’s still be the most powerful man alive.

Actually he could kill a baby on TV and some people would think he did it for national security. And they’d vote for him, running or not.

And he would beat what ever shit head the Deaniac-ran left put on the ticket against him.

It’s not that people are soooooo stupid that they’d vote for Bush regardless. It’s that they would rather have him than vote for the loser left, and their cadre of pussies.
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Even better…

[quote]Habitual wrote:
WMD… You are completely right, after all my time Iraq that aint shit compared to your posts. Get over yourself little girl. [/quote]

Hey, we have something in common. I served in the first Gulf War. But you’re the one who called me an internet tough guy, so I just figured you had a hard time dealing with someone who speaks their minds openly and directly.

I heard that Alpha Male is really good for that shriveled feeling.

Crap - somebody must have sent WMD some bail money. She’s back running her NOW gang mouth.

Let me hear you scream, “It’s my uterus!!!”.

dude we have organizations like NOW only b/c there was once a need for them. Glass ceilings still exist to a degree and women weren’t always able to have an abortion. Chicks need their own old girls network so they can get ahead.