[quote]B rocK wrote:
conorh wrote:
I know WMS shoots through me like a laser beam.
I’ve heard from 2 people that it gave them super nasty gas. The kind that is beyond “funny” to the point that is it socially awkward to have gas that bad.[/quote]
Nope, wheat is the only thing that does that to me. I know my WMS PWO shakes leave me with the same hypoglycemic crash 30 minutes after I take it that I get from Surge. I’m shaky, hungry and “empty” feeling after I take it. I took this to mean it was zooming through me.
Luckily my iron gut turns very few things into nastiness, at least not for more than a day or so.
again, tune in to MD for more info, i’ll find the link and post it, to summarize it’s no better, quicker than malto or dextrose, in fact in terms of spiking insulin levels and rates of glycogen re-synthesis, it appears to be worse.
Waxie and Vitargo seem to be interchanged and they shouldn’t be, with the former being the better choice. Waxie has been getting over by impersonating the other product.
the article states white bread is a better choice post work out.
This shit could all be true…or it’s a ploy by some to discredit Waxie before someone at MD uses this possible propaganda to launch their new super duper PWO SUPPLEMENT!!!
Either way i like wazie as a carb, but might switch back to dextrose (glucose when inside the confines of the human system) PWO!
[quote]300andabove wrote:
Wm is only fast when on its OWN, anything with a higher molecular content than it slows it down to that particular compounds speed of entry.
My current recommendations for a 200lb bodybuilder are 75g of a HMW carbohydrate mixed with 5g creatine, 8g L-leucine, and 5-10g of BCAA?s. Since we?re trying to keep extra nutrients to a minimum, we are focusing on select nutrients that give us the most “bang for our buck.” L-leucine has been shown in studies to be the specific amino acid to “switch on” protein synthesis. And all of the Branched Chain Amino Acids (BCAA?s) have been shown to be preferentially taken up by skeletal muscle. Creatine has been shown in many studies to provide many benefits to bodybuilders. This means that the “best” amino acids will be available as quickly as possible to trigger muscle growth, and decrease catabolism.
This meal should be followed approximately 15-30min later with a meal containing protein and complex carbohydrates, preferably a fast digesting liquid protein such as a whey isolate, and some complex carbohydrates.
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I almost don’t believe this, though.
It’s not as if protein molecules BIND to the WMS molecules (right?), which I believe would need to happen for this effect you are claiming.
Bill Roberts I think even said the molecular weight issue was nonsense, but I’m not sure if my above statement makes sense. Pretty sure it does.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
300andabove wrote:
Wm is only fast when on its OWN, anything with a higher molecular content than it slows it down to that particular compounds speed of entry.
My current recommendations for a 200lb bodybuilder are 75g of a HMW carbohydrate mixed with 5g creatine, 8g L-leucine, and 5-10g of BCAA?s. Since we?re trying to keep extra nutrients to a minimum, we are focusing on select nutrients that give us the most “bang for our buck.” L-leucine has been shown in studies to be the specific amino acid to “switch on” protein synthesis. And all of the Branched Chain Amino Acids (BCAA?s) have been shown to be preferentially taken up by skeletal muscle. Creatine has been shown in many studies to provide many benefits to bodybuilders. This means that the “best” amino acids will be available as quickly as possible to trigger muscle growth, and decrease catabolism.
This meal should be followed approximately 15-30min later with a meal containing protein and complex carbohydrates, preferably a fast digesting liquid protein such as a whey isolate, and some complex carbohydrates.
I almost don’t believe this, though.
It’s not as if protein molecules BIND to the WMS molecules (right?), which I believe would need to happen for this effect you are claiming.
Bill Roberts I think even said the molecular weight issue was nonsense, but I’m not sure if my above statement makes sense. Pretty sure it does.[/quote]
Honestly, I don’t think it’s going to be a big issue at all. All liquid carbs are going to be fast. I don’t see how a suspension of fine carb powder in water is going to be as slow as white bread.