I don’t think Jesse is brave enough to go after Walt directly: remember how he hesitated when going after the dealers, which was also to avenge a murdered friend?. That said he has definitely snapped (was good to see him doing something other than staring numbly into space!), and maybe now we know how the White residence got trashed. Looks like he could turn Walt in, forcing him to go on the run with a beard and car full of weapons…
I’m interested to see how Todd and his uncles fit into the last few episodes after we saw them pre-credits and then not at all for the rest of teh episode.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
That fake confession was pretty brilliant [/quote]
Yes it was.
I knew that the Whites paying for Hanks medical bills would come back to bite Hank in the ass.
How the fuck do you release a guy from custody who was rolling around in his car with 5 million dollars on a bag, who are not explained to the IRS, your lawyer can just bail you out like that in America?
It was brilliant the scene where Jesse was conecting the dots about the ricin cigarette, you could see in his face everytime he made a connection here and there.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
Just a big plot-hole i’ve seemed to noticed.
How the fuck do you release a guy from custody who was rolling around in his car with 5 million dollars on a bag, who are not explained to the IRS, your lawyer can just bail you out like that in America?
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I’m pretty sure bail is determined by your likelihood to skip town and the type of crime committed.
Edit: don’t people who’ve committed much worse crimes regularly get bail option?
[quote]therajraj wrote:
That fake confession was pretty brilliant [/quote]
Yes it was.
I knew that the Whites paying for Hanks medical bills would come back to bite Hank in the ass.[/quote]
That whole scene my girl and I were both in awe. He totally fucked Hank in the most amazing way I’ve ever seen.
Jesse losing his shit was awesome. I’m probably being dense but how exactly did he make that connection by just looking at the pack of cigs?
EDIT: The fact that Skylar was willing to help him with that confession makes it even more amazing
[quote]therajraj wrote:
That fake confession was pretty brilliant [/quote]
Yes it was.
I knew that the Whites paying for Hanks medical bills would come back to bite Hank in the ass.[/quote]
That whole scene my girl and I were both in awe. He totally fucked Hank in the most amazing way I’ve ever seen.
Jesse losing his shit was awesome. I’m probably being dense but how exactly did he make that connection by just looking at the pack of cigs?
EDIT: The fact that Skylar was willing to help him with that confession makes it even more amazing[/quote]
[quote]therajraj wrote:
That fake confession was pretty brilliant [/quote]
Yes it was.
I knew that the Whites paying for Hanks medical bills would come back to bite Hank in the ass.[/quote]
That whole scene my girl and I were both in awe. He totally fucked Hank in the most amazing way I’ve ever seen.
Jesse losing his shit was awesome. I’m probably being dense but how exactly did he make that connection by just looking at the pack of cigs?
EDIT: The fact that Skylar was willing to help him with that confession makes it even more amazing[/quote]
Yeah I didn’t catch that either.
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It wasn’t just looking at the cigs, it was from the fact he kept his weed in there and then it was gone. He knew it was in there at the lawyer’s office so it must’ve been stolen from his pocket there by him. From there, he realized that if he was able to easily steal the bag of weed, a single ricin cigarette would’ve been just as easy. And so on.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
That fake confession was pretty brilliant [/quote]
Yes it was.
I knew that the Whites paying for Hanks medical bills would come back to bite Hank in the ass.[/quote]
That whole scene my girl and I were both in awe. He totally fucked Hank in the most amazing way I’ve ever seen.
Jesse losing his shit was awesome. I’m probably being dense but how exactly did he make that connection by just looking at the pack of cigs?
EDIT: The fact that Skylar was willing to help him with that confession makes it even more amazing[/quote]
From episode 412
Walt: â??You said it yourself. You had [the Ricin cigarette] this morning. When could I have possiblyâ?¦?â??
Jesse: â??You had Saul do it. I went to his office. He called me and just had to see me today. His big Man Mountain body guard patted me down and thatâ??s when he must have stole it off of me, right? Was that the plan?â??
From Vince Gilligan at Comic-Con
The complete timeline goes something like this:
Walt is sitting in his yard with the gun, waiting for Gusâ??s men to kill him. He sees the Lily of the Valley plant on the patio. (5:30 into Episode 512)
Off camera, Walt crushes up some of the poison from the Lily of the Valley plant and injects it into a juice box.
Also off camera, Walt delivers the juice box to Brockâ??s school. (Having seen Brock the day before at Jesse and Andreaâ??s place.)
Walt puts the juice box in Brockâ??s lunch. (Again off camera)
Walt calls Saul, and has Huell lift the pack of cigarettes from Jesse. (More off camera)
Huell, Saulâ??s bodyguard, lifts the pack with the Ricin cig from Jesse, and replaces it with a clean pack with one cigarette missing. (This can be seen in Episode 412 if you know what youâ??re looking for)
Walt lies to Jesse about all this in Episode 412 about this and Jesse believes him and is now willing to help him kill Gus.
(For his part, Bryan Cranston hadnâ??t read the Episode 413 script so he, too, believed that Walt was telling the truth, making it easier to give a convincing performance.)
I got this off of Forbes after a little google search. Hope it helps.
And so Jesse just realized it could have been that easy to lift the cigarette? But why does that convince him that is what happened as opposed to it actually being the Lilly of the Valley? Or is he basically just going to assume that those coincidences are too much and that it must be a cover up.
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
And so Jesse just realized it could have been that easy to lift the cigarette? But why does that convince him that is what happened as opposed to it actually being the Lilly of the Valley? Or is he basically just going to assume that those coincidences are too much and that it must be a cover up.[/quote]
He probably just had suspicions, then when Saul confesses they are confirmed.
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
And so Jesse just realized it could have been that easy to lift the cigarette? But why does that convince him that is what happened as opposed to it actually being the Lilly of the Valley? Or is he basically just going to assume that those coincidences are too much and that it must be a cover up.[/quote]
I think he realized how much of a pawn he had been. He tied that in with the fact that Huel was able to pick pocket him and has done it in the past with the ricin. Putting those two facts together he is probably just assuming that it was all Walt who did it. Not saying it is a satisfactory answer and is a stretch but its just what I think after putting the facts from previous episodes and from Vince together.
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
And so Jesse just realized it could have been that easy to lift the cigarette? But why does that convince him that is what happened as opposed to it actually being the Lilly of the Valley? Or is he basically just going to assume that those coincidences are too much and that it must be a cover up.[/quote]
I think he realized how much of a pawn he had been. He tied that in with the fact that Huel was able to pick pocket him and has done it in the past with the ricin. Putting those two facts together he is probably just assuming that it was all Walt who did it. Not saying it is a satisfactory answer and is a stretch but its just what I think after putting the facts from previous episodes and from Vince together. [/quote]
This, and I think he realized that Walt White will stop at nothing to protect himself.
Is it true that Jesse was supposed to be killed off in the 1st season? I heard that people liked him so much they kept him and of course made him into what he is now. He is a cool character- honestly the only thing that has really bothered me about him is that he reverts back to his “yo’s” so much even though it kind of seemed like he had matured passed that.
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
Is it true that Jesse was supposed to be killed off in the 1st season? I heard that people liked him so much they kept him and of course made him into what he is now. [/quote]
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
Is it true that Jesse was supposed to be killed off in the 1st season? I heard that people liked him so much they kept him and of course made him into what he is now. He is a cool character- honestly the only thing that has really bothered me about him is that he reverts back to his “yo’s” so much even though it kind of seemed like he had matured passed that. [/quote]
I am not really sure. I know that Vince has been quoted saying that Jesse is the embodiment of all the innocence that Walt has destroyed. It seems like he is so ingrained in the plot and symbolism (which the shows gets off on) so I have no clue if he was supposed to die or not.