Boxing with Son is Child Abuse? Really?

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, no one needs your insults, You aren’t even good at it. You are the one reprimanding someone else for not helping some teenagers steal (regardless of how minor that is), all because you think him mentioning his size is the bigger issue??

Crime and your answer is “meh”.

Someone says they’re huge and all guns come out.

You are the one not making sense here…and sorry, but the name calling and insults have gotten old. What I just wrote IS logic.

I wouldn’t raise my kids to think that was right. I wouldn’t help some kids do it in a theater.

If you would, your attempt to sound morally superior fails.

You seem upset that BlakedAJackson wasn’t humble enough and mentioned his size.

I would be more worried about you teaching kids that sneaking into movies is “meh”.[/quote]

You don’t get it.

I’m not insulting you. Your posts ARE illogical. This has already been pointed out to you by Gregron and Fighting Irish.

You are entitled to your point of view, but the way you express and defend it is illogical.

And here’s yet another example of your failure to argue with any intellectual might; I didn’t mention Blake’s size - HE did. LOL

And once again with the logic failure, thinking sneaking into the movies is “meh” and “raising your kids think that was right” is an illogical leap.
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Wow. Let’s see. You just stated:

I can assume you wrote this based on my previous post of:

I didn’t write that YOU mentioned his size. I clearly wrote that you were mad because he was not humble AND mentioned HIS size. This is a clear failure in your own reading comprehension.

You aren’t even arguing against points being made. You simply call them “illogical” and rant some more.

I mean, honestly, that sentence was written correctly…and you still got it twisted.

I’m wasting my time with you.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just thinking…but if my parents had known we snuck into that movie in the 6th grade without paying they would have beat our ass. We didn’t do it with the blessing of our parents. I find it strange that grown men, some who have kids, are now saying they think it not only is ok but that they would HELP other kids do it…but then they have shit to say about how someone else raises their kid.

LOL

You can only assume they are teaching the same values to their kids…which I guess explains why kids would feel entitled to it to start with.[/quote]

I honestly wouldn’t lose a wink of sleep if someone I don’t know gets their wrists slapped by an usher. I’d be more protective of my kids (if they existed), so this assumption on your part about my inability to compartmentalize behaviors and values is misguided.

I’m not buying a trench coat and letting the kid sit on my shoulders as we walk in as “one” adult, but if someone wants to stay for a second movie after paying for the first (how else would they get into the theater?), I couldn’t care less.

Double-dipping is about as victimless a crime as I can think of offhand, because, again, the theaters I’ve been to have allowed the patrons to either keep the glasses or return them after the movie for reuse or recycling (cleaned/repackaged at a different facility).

If I WAS truly worried about some kid taking a pair of glasses he didn’t pay for, I would simply return mine to offset it. Otherwise, I’d add it to my collection.

I know you’re itching for “good” debate on this forum, but this isn’t something I am going to spend another ten pages (or, frankly, even a single post) discussing… though I’m glad to see we at least managed to establish that we were talking about children and not grown men with real jobs.

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[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just thinking…but if my parents had known we snuck into that movie in the 6th grade without paying they would have beat our ass. We didn’t do it with the blessing of our parents. I find it strange that grown men, some who have kids, are now saying they think it not only is ok but that they would HELP other kids do it…but then they have shit to say about how someone else raises their kid.

LOL

You can only assume they are teaching the same values to their kids…which I guess explains why kids would feel entitled to it to start with.[/quote]

I honestly wouldn’t lose a wink of sleep if someone I don’t know gets their wrists slapped by an usher. I’d be more protective of my kids (if they existed), so this assumption on your part about my inability to compartmentalize behaviors and values is misguided.

I’m not buying a trench coat and letting the kid sit on my shoulders as we walk in as “one” adult, but if someone wants to stay for a second movie after paying for the first (how else would they get into the theater?), I couldn’t care less.

Double-dipping is about as victimless a crime as I can think of offhand, because, again, the theaters I’ve been to have allowed the patrons to either keep the glasses or return them after the movie for reuse or recycling (cleaned/repackaged at a different facility).

If I WAS truly worried about some kid taking a pair of glasses he didn’t pay for, I would simply return mine to offset it. Otherwise, I’d add it to my collection.

I know you’re itching for “good” debate on this forum, but this isn’t something I am going to spend another ten pages (or, frankly, even a single post) discussing… though I’m glad to see we at least managed to establish that we were talking about children and not grown men with real jobs.[/quote]

Why would ANYONE here care about someone else “double tipping” if it doesn’t involve themselves?

That isn’t the issue here. The issue is HELPING kids do it. Big difference, chief.

Also, lol at “how else would they get in the theater”. That’s why they quit allowing you to use the restroom before you got a ticket. Other ways are waiting for people to leave through side doors and walking in. That means you don’t have to have bought a ticket at all to have gotten in.

Once again, HELPING SOME KIDS do it is not the same as caring about someone else doing it away from you. You and others criticized another poster for not helping someone else do this.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, no one needs your insults, You aren’t even good at it. You are the one reprimanding someone else for not helping some teenagers steal (regardless of how minor that is), all because you think him mentioning his size is the bigger issue??

Crime and your answer is “meh”.

Someone says they’re huge and all guns come out.

You are the one not making sense here…and sorry, but the name calling and insults have gotten old. What I just wrote IS logic.

I wouldn’t raise my kids to think that was right. I wouldn’t help some kids do it in a theater.

If you would, your attempt to sound morally superior fails.

You seem upset that BlakedAJackson wasn’t humble enough and mentioned his size.

I would be more worried about you teaching kids that sneaking into movies is “meh”.[/quote]

You don’t get it.

I’m not insulting you. Your posts ARE illogical. This has already been pointed out to you by Gregron and Fighting Irish.

You are entitled to your point of view, but the way you express and defend it is illogical.

And here’s yet another example of your failure to argue with any intellectual might; I didn’t mention Blake’s size - HE did. LOL

And once again with the logic failure, thinking sneaking into the movies is “meh” and “raising your kids think that was right” is an illogical leap.
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Wow. Let’s see. You just stated:

I can assume you wrote this based on my previous post of:

I didn’t write that YOU mentioned his size. I clearly wrote that you were mad because he was not humble AND mentioned HIS size. This is a clear failure in your own reading comprehension.

You aren’t even arguing against points being made. You simply call them “illogical” and rant some more.

I mean, honestly, that sentence was written correctly…and you still got it twisted.

I’m wasting my time with you.[/quote]

If you think that sentence wasn’t awkward…smh. You can certainly read it that way, but it can easily be read another.

LOL @ you.

You’re damn right you’re done arguing b/c in a minute I’m going to trot out your crown jewel of the fucking thread; your boxing to golf analogy.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just thinking…but if my parents had known we snuck into that movie in the 6th grade without paying they would have beat our ass. We didn’t do it with the blessing of our parents. I find it strange that grown men, some who have kids, are now saying they think it not only is ok but that they would HELP other kids do it…but then they have shit to say about how someone else raises their kid.

LOL

You can only assume they are teaching the same values to their kids…which I guess explains why kids would feel entitled to it to start with.[/quote]

I honestly wouldn’t lose a wink of sleep if someone I don’t know gets their wrists slapped by an usher. I’d be more protective of my kids (if they existed), so this assumption on your part about my inability to compartmentalize behaviors and values is misguided.

I’m not buying a trench coat and letting the kid sit on my shoulders as we walk in as “one” adult, but if someone wants to stay for a second movie after paying for the first (how else would they get into the theater?), I couldn’t care less.

Double-dipping is about as victimless a crime as I can think of offhand, because, again, the theaters I’ve been to have allowed the patrons to either keep the glasses or return them after the movie for reuse or recycling (cleaned/repackaged at a different facility).

If I WAS truly worried about some kid taking a pair of glasses he didn’t pay for, I would simply return mine to offset it. Otherwise, I’d add it to my collection.

I know you’re itching for “good” debate on this forum, but this isn’t something I am going to spend another ten pages (or, frankly, even a single post) discussing… though I’m glad to see we at least managed to establish that we were talking about children and not grown men with real jobs.[/quote]

You and others criticized another poster for not helping someone else do this.[/quote]

Ding ding ding ding ding.

WRONG.

We said “meh” to sneaking in a theater and criticized him for the manner in which he “handled” the incident and then without any sense of awareness came here to repeat it as if we’d give him an “attaboy” after telling a group of kids, “do you see how big I am”.

Fucking ludicrous. LOL

Who the fuck says that in real life? On what fucking planet?

“Do you see how big I am?”

“No sir, I’m quite blind, did you not notice my seeing eye dog?”

Shit is fucking comedy.

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[quote]atypical1 wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
I will never agree with a kid having an option to raise his hand to a parent while being disciplined.

I do not think this was anything more than pops showing the kid he was not in charge Dad is. I just think it was not a good way to show it.

If you’re teaching the boy to defend himself and he takes some pops while training then shit it’s less than the boy will get on the street. No issue (except to the nosey neighbors).

I think he wanted the kid to see he was not an equal by giving him a chance. I don’t agree with giving them the chance.

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As a father I agree with this.

Putting on gloves and boxing is a great idea if the purpose is to teach him fighting skills or even just for fun. I think every dad should have some physical interaction like that whether it’s wrestling, boxing, or simply playing tackle football. Of course I’m speaking from the point of view of someone who’s athletic.

Punishment should be just that. Sparring is not punishment, it’s fighting. As a father I shouldn’t need to show my kid who’s boss by fighting him. If that’s what it takes then I haven’t done my job very well. Being a father is like any other leadership position in that you have to figure out how to get respect and typically violence isn’t the best way for that.

As far as how to punish a 16 year old, there’s certainly ways but none are universal. I mean taking away his phone might be a big deal to him or it might not be. Maybe it’s a matter of some sort of grounding or maybe it’s taking away his phone. Hell, maybe it’s a month of 5 am wake ups with a PT session thrown in. I can’t tell you what the solution is because I don’t know the kid. The key is to figure out what motivates them and use that as a tool. That’s the job of being a parent after all. It’s work and it takes some thinking and creativity. I know for me an ass kicking never worked because (a) I became tougher and it didn’t bother me and (b) it was a short duration. So my dad hit me a few times? Did it stop me from doing what I wanted to do? Of course not because I knew all I would have to do was take a few wallops from the belt which would be over quickly and I could easily put up with. Once they started taking things away from me (like my freedom) then I started to think twice. But that’s what motivated me.

Besides, if the message you’re sending to the kid is one of “you can do what you want as long as you can kick the ass of whatever authority figure catches you” what do you think will happen?

Interesting discussion.

james

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Yea i agree. I got one beating from my dad when i was 10. Worst beating of my life and never stepped out of line since. And i have always respected my dad, he has his flaws like all people but he gets up every morning went to work and provided for me my brothers and my mom. So alot of times just the thought of dissappointing him kept me in line. Also he would explain things to me which went a long way instead of just saying because i said so he would reason with me. Im a reasonable person so if u gve me good reasons not to do something u wnt have to beat me cuz i will just listen. I understand what this guy was trying to do but its important that he earns his sons respect and solidifies his position as the man of the house without having to beat the ish out of him lol. But i think the cops should mine there own buisness.