Bowe Bergdahl: Deserter, Traitor, or Just a Pawn?

I think there is more to this than we are seeing. This has got to be a smoke screen for something bigger that’s happening right now that isn’t being reported…

The MSLM is wagging the dog and barking up the trees that are being so “conveniently” presented. Look at all of the scandals in the past few weeks. I can’t believe that it’s due to gross incompetence. NO ONE is that incompetent. It’s a distraction for something. We’ve got a Marine sitting in Mexico right now over some bullshit that should be brought home, but Obama doesn’t take the relative simple action (in comparison) to do that… But he gives away five terrorists to bring home a deserter? In secret? This doesn’t add up AT ALL.

Then there is the fact the the MSLM isn’t reporting that when the father spoke at the white house, his first words were in Arabic and essentially “claiming” the WH for Islam… http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/bombshell-first-words-bergdahls-father-white-house-arabic/

This is bullshit.

This whole thing stinks.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Traitor on tape trying to talk to the Taliban:

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2014/06/03/team-leader-bowe-bergdahl-wanted-to-talk-to-taliban/[/quote]

“He’s looking for someone who speaks English so he can talk to the Taliban.”

Are they talking about Obama? Oh, Bergdahl right.

“Deal with Taliban raises hopes for peace talks, says Obama”

He’s obviously guilty of providing material support to terrorists…Bergdahl that is.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I think there is more to this than we are seeing. This has got to be a smoke screen for something bigger that’s happening right now that isn’t being reported…

The MSLM is wagging the dog and barking up the trees that are being so “conveniently” presented. Look at all of the scandals in the past few weeks. I can’t believe that it’s due to gross incompetence. NO ONE is that incompetent. It’s a distraction for something. We’ve got a Marine sitting in Mexico right now over some bullshit that should be brought home, but Obama doesn’t take the relative simple action (in comparison) to do that… But he gives away five terrorists to bring home a deserter? In secret? This doesn’t add up AT ALL.

Then there is the fact the the MSLM isn’t reporting that when the father spoke at the white house, his first words were in Arabic and essentially “claiming” the WH for Islam… http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/bombshell-first-words-bergdahls-father-white-house-arabic/

This is bullshit.

This whole thing stinks. [/quote]

This crossed my mind, and I think Obama gambled on this, thinking it would pay off.

I think he went out on a limb, hoping the response by the media and public would be positive.

Look how quickly Obama spiked the ball at the Rose Garden, with the bearded father, looking like an ax murderer.

This was an attempt at giving Obama something positive to talk about, let’s face it, he has been in a shit storm since his reelection.

Obama’s approval ratings rose during height of VA scandal:

This is what happens with cult members when their leader’s predictions fail. Instead of turning against the leader after a failed prediction they enter a phase of cognitive dissonance and renew their commitment.

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
So Gilad Shalit was a hostage, not a POW.
[/quote]
Is there a Palestinian state which is a GC signatory?[/quote]Nope.

[quote]Is HAMAS or Hezbollah.[/quote]Nope.

[quote]Are any of these organizations publicly pledged to follow the GC in any case?[/quote]Not so far’s I know.

[quote]Practically speaking, was Shalit treated as a PoW or as a hostage?[/quote]Practically speaking? Neither. He was treated as a political bargaining chip, same as Bowie Taliban here. But strictly speaking, as a hostage.

Just as

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
So Gilad Shalit was a hostage, not a POW.
[/quote]

:slight_smile:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
So Gilad Shalit was a hostage, not a POW.
[/quote]
Is there a Palestinian state which is a GC signatory?[/quote]Nope.

[quote]Is HAMAS or Hezbollah.[/quote]Nope.

[quote]Are any of these organizations publicly pledged to follow the GC in any case?[/quote]Not so far’s I know.

[quote]Practically speaking, was Shalit treated as a PoW or as a hostage?[/quote]Practically speaking? Neither. He was treated as a political bargaining chip, same as Bowie Taliban here. But strictly speaking, as a hostage.

Just as

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
So Gilad Shalit was a hostage, not a POW.
[/quote]

:)[/quote]

Yep!!!

Actually, I guess “political bargaining chip” and “hostage” are essentially synonymous.

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
You mean a decision that was signed into law by Mr Obama?
What’s one more law that he has found inconvenient and conveniently broken?[/quote]

You sure are putting a lot of blame on President Obama.

I think it was Kissinger who said something along the lines of “illegal we do overnight, unconstitutional takes a little longer”.

[quote]theuofh wrote:

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
You mean a decision that was signed into law by Mr Obama?
What’s one more law that he has found inconvenient and conveniently broken?[/quote]

You sure are putting a lot of blame on President Obama.


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No. Who is responsible to see “that the laws be faithfully executed?”
Who had complete foreknowledge of this deal?

The slant of your post is that it is all excusable.
The slant of mine is that a lawless government–and in particular, its executive–is inexcusable.

I fear that we are going to see a lot more of this from the Dali Bama. He just could care less. He is going to follow his agenda, whether it’s legal/unconstitutional or not.

“Sgt. Bergdahl served his country with honor and distinction.”

Bergdahl was “captured… on the battlefield.”

   - Susan Rice, Nat'l Security Advisor

Huh?

[quote]theuofh wrote:

You sure are putting a lot of blame on President Obama.

[/quote]

This was an illegal action carried out by the executive branch. Who do you think people are going to blame?

[quote]Brett620 wrote:
“Sgt. Bergdahl served his country with honor and distinction.”

Bergdahl was “captured… on the battlefield.”

   - Susan Rice, Nat'l Security Advisor

Huh?[/quote]

Well, it’s trueâ?¦ if by “his country” you mean “Afghanistan”.

And if we are to accept Jeremy Scahill’s subtitle for Dirty Wars, then yes, indeed, he was captured “on the battlefield”.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]Brett620 wrote:
“Sgt. Bergdahl served his country with honor and distinction.”

Bergdahl was “captured… on the battlefield.”

   - Susan Rice, Nat'l Security Advisor

Huh?[/quote]

Well, it’s trueâ?¦ if by “his country” you mean “Afghanistan”.

And if we are to accept Jeremy Scahill’s subtitle for Dirty Wars, then yes, indeed, he was captured “on the battlefield”.

http://www.amazon.com/Dirty-Wars-The-World-Battlefield/dp/156858671X[/quote]

Might have to check that book out. Recommended?

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
The slant of mine is that a lawless government–and in particular, its executive–is inexcusable.
[/quote]

We are on the same page here, Doc, 100%.

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
Why they are not tried before a military tribunal is a question for Mr Obama; am I the only one to suspect that there has been no indictment before a military tribunal , in part, because of this deal?[/quote]

As far as I can tell, the only detainees currently charged with a criminal offense at Gitmo are actual 9/11 co-conspirators; the majority of those remaining have been cleared for release but are still sitting there for whatever reason. The minority/non-9/11 co-consirators who are not cleared for release have not been charged with anything and are also in legal limbo. About half of the detainees there now have been cleared for release for more than 5 years and are just sitting there.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:

You sure are putting a lot of blame on President Obama.

[/quote]

This was an illegal action carried out by the executive branch. Who do you think people are going to blame?
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Also note that the U.S. is a signatory to the ICCPR, which is incorporated into U.S. law under the Supremacy Clause.

Note Articles 2.1, all of 9, and all of 14.

[quote]Brett620 wrote:

Might have to check that book out. Recommended?[/quote]

Only ever saw the film, which was excellent. I assume the book was just as good.

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:

You sure are putting a lot of blame on President Obama.

[/quote]

This was an illegal action carried out by the executive branch. Who do you think people are going to blame?
[/quote]

Also note that the U.S. is a signatory to the ICCPR, which is incorporated into U.S. law under the Supremacy Clause.

Note Articles 2.1, all of 9, and all of 14.

[/quote]

Ceding sovereignty to international bodies and making sure IslamoNazis are happy. Great.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]Brett620 wrote:

Might have to check that book out. Recommended?[/quote]

Only ever saw the film, which was excellent. I assume the book was just as good.[/quote]

Jeremy Scahill is a foreign correspondent for the Communist rag The Nation. If you’re a hard leftist, blame America first, historical revisionist you’ll like this book.