Bill Roberts Leaving PWI

[quote]JEATON wrote:
I am one of the oldest members of this board. Been around since before there was a print subscription to TESTOSTERONE. Still have those old issues in the workout room.

I personally do more reading than posting. When I do post, I try to have something to say.

I tend to stay in the PWI forum. Bill is one of the main reasons (as well as Zeb). If he takes the time to post, he usually has something to say that is worth reading. I do not always agree with him, but even when I don’t I have to fully examine my position in context.

It is fitting that Alpha Female summed up my feelings the best. “This is a place where men can still be men.”

At least it was. If the whines of some sniveling wimp(s) are enough to push the management of this site to as much as suggest that Bill, or anyone else for that matter, reframe from posting here, well then it has just become another victim of the PC police and therefore unworthy of my time or patronage.

Something else that the powers that be might consider. It seems to be that a great deal of the posters on this forum that tend to lean libertarian and conservative are those with level 4 under their names (paying customers). The majority of “Kumbaya” singing liberals seem to have level 0 under their names.

I would not ask that any of the “anti-Bills” be hushed or silenced. On a site named TESTOSTERONE I would expect the floor to be open to all, and that each man’s (or woman’s) opinion to stand on its own merit.

I would personally like some clarification from the management of T Nation. Is this company going the way of Bill Philips (MM2K)? As my dad used to tease, “If your scared, say your scared.” If not, take a stand and let it be known.

While my departure would hardly have the effect of that of Zeb or Bill, I personally would rather leave than participate in the hypocrisy of a “hard core” men’s forum that would censure any member’s opinions, regardless of their affiliation. [/quote]

I hereby proclaim that I highly approve of this post.

Drama in the PWI!?

can someone plz summarrize in a paragraph or two?

[quote]dk44 wrote:
What do I have to do to get Ryan P. a job at Biotest?[/quote]

You don’t like easy targets?

[quote]Vegita wrote:

[quote]dk44 wrote:
What do I have to do to get Ryan P. a job at Biotest?[/quote]

Hahahahahahaha, Nice one DK!

V[/quote]

x2

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]dk44 wrote:
What do I have to do to get Ryan P. a job at Biotest?[/quote]

You don’t like easy targets?[/quote]

Sure I do! Regardless, he needs some real life work experience and a paycheck (so he will quit trying to take mine!) Obamaaaaaaaaaa!

[quote]JEATON wrote:
I am one of the oldest members of this board. Been around since before there was a print subscription to TESTOSTERONE. Still have those old issues in the workout room.

I personally do more reading than posting. When I do post, I try to have something to say.

I tend to stay in the PWI forum. Bill is one of the main reasons (as well as Zeb). If he takes the time to post, he usually has something to say that is worth reading. I do not always agree with him, but even when I don’t I have to fully examine my position in context.

It is fitting that Alpha Female summed up my feelings the best. “This is a place where men can still be men.”

At least it was. If the whines of some sniveling wimp(s) are enough to push the management of this site to as much as suggest that Bill, or anyone else for that matter, reframe from posting here, well then it has just become another victim of the PC police and therefore unworthy of my time or patronage.

Something else that the powers that be might consider. It seems to be that a great deal of the posters on this forum that tend to lean libertarian and conservative are those with level 4 under their names (paying customers). The majority of “Kumbaya” singing liberals seem to have level 0 under their names.

I would not ask that any of the “anti-Bills” be hushed or silenced. On a site named TESTOSTERONE I would expect the floor to be open to all, and that each man’s (or woman’s) opinion to stand on its own merit.

I would personally like some clarification from the management of T Nation. Is this company going the way of Bill Philips (MM2K)? As my dad used to tease, “If your scared, say your scared.” If not, take a stand and let it be known.

While my departure would hardly have the effect of that of Zeb or Bill, I personally would rather leave than participate in the hypocrisy of a “hard core” men’s forum that would censure any member’s opinions, regardless of their affiliation. [/quote]
Well said.

what kind of Bull shit is this, who the hell ran to the mods?

might as well change the site to estrogen nation.

You guys are a riot. One of our own is banned, and we all pull together to get him back on. I have not seen many of the liberals wanting Bill back. Maybe we can go into the Legalize Weed thread and tell them to grow a nutsack and get over here and post their support for Bill and Zeb? Maybe the weed is lowering their T so that is why their nutsack is so small.

It’s really unfortunate that this all went down. This is what happens when people forget that there is a person behind each post, and respect and courtesy are thrown away. The irony is that Bill is the one guy here posting without any cover of anonymity, yet whoever it is that made complaints gets to slink away.

To whoever did lodge a complaint, if you are so strongly principled that it offends you just to hear someone else’s opinion, then at least have the guts to stand up and say that you complained and why. Anything less is the cheap way out.

I have to say though that I think this says more about Biotest than anything else. The image of a T-man giving a middle finger to being PC is just that, an image. It is nothing more than marketing. It is also a little curious that a company will allow someone on the payroll to post front page articles calling people “fat fucks” but respectful, well thought out posts deep down in a forum are the ones reflecting poorly on the company. Again, whoever called Bill into check also chooses not to stand up like a man and say why. We know why ($$$) but at least man up and say it out loud.

It seems that through all of this, the only man sticking to his principles is the one walking out the door. Sorry to see you go Bill, I hope you find your way back.

oh the drama.

Hey, Bill:

I have a hunch something totally unrelated to this site is going on in your life. I hope you get it squared away and come back stronger.

I happen to believe this is a very good site. Try going on other sites for a while. I did and they suck.

My advice to you: take some time off, take care of your business, then come back strong.

I’m going to need you for the Mid-terms. We have paulie’s thinking about throwing tantrums. We have to help them. Not to mention the euroweenie/lib cabal need to smacked around with regularity. We can’t let them run wild.

I’ll look forward to your return.

Your friend,

Jeff

Oh, Zeb, you aren’t allowed to leave.

Jeff

[quote]Jeff R wrote:
Oh, Zeb, you aren’t allowed to leave.

Jeff[/quote]

That’s the sanest thing you ever wrote. That, and the post above.

ZEB, listen to Jeff R, I dare you - we pinkos will run riot if you leave. I might come out of retirement just to piss you off enough.

Makkun (always lurking)

[quote]makkun wrote:

[quote]Jeff R wrote:
Oh, Zeb, you aren’t allowed to leave.

Jeff[/quote]

That’s the sanest thing you ever wrote. That, and the post above.

ZEB, listen to Jeff R, I dare you - we pinkos will run riot if you leave. I might come out of retirement just to piss you off enough.

Makkun (always lurking)[/quote]

Mak:

Thanks for the laugh!!! Good to see you.

See, Bill?

The Good Guys need you. The OTHERS respect you.

The other forums are a waste of your talent.

Bill, just register under a new username and then you should not have issues with Biotest needing to be castrated anymore.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:
You guys are a riot. One of our own is banned, and we all pull together to get him back on. I have not seen many of the liberals wanting Bill back. Maybe we can go into the Legalize Weed thread and tell them to grow a nutsack and get over here and post their support for Bill and Zeb? Maybe the weed is lowering their T so that is why their nutsack is so small.[/quote]

This is the kind of behavior that led to this.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Whoever complained to make Bill want to leave, please buy a lifetime supply of Alpha Male, since you lack the nutsack to stand their and take criticism even when you dish it out, willingly coming to a politically stirring forum on your own accord. How about you being a box of e-kleenex when you arrive into this forum. For the most part, alot of us talk shit, but all with a humorous tone to it. I cannot believe someone would be so offended to chase people off like this. The pussification of American has now landed in PWI. [/quote]

This.

Fucking hell, I may not always agree with the guy but damn it he could argue his points well!

And for those who let the political opinions of employees of a company dictate whether or not you will purchase their products - go die in a ditch.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:
You guys are a riot. One of our own is banned, and we all pull together to get him back on. I have not seen many of the liberals wanting Bill back. Maybe we can go into the Legalize Weed thread and tell them to grow a nutsack and get over here and post their support for Bill and Zeb? Maybe the weed is lowering their T so that is why their nutsack is so small.[/quote]

This is the kind of behavior that led to this.[/quote]

Weed smoking caused Bill to leave?

[quote]Makavali wrote:

And for those who let the political opinions of employees of a company dictate whether or not you will purchase their products - go die in a ditch.[/quote]

Ehh, I boycott movie stars, try not to shop WalMart, etc. I think it’s legit to tell Biotest to take a hike if you feel that way.

However I won’t be doing it, but I defend anyones right to do so. I think this was a setup by some shitty user here, and Biotest had no choice but to have BR tone down.

Whenever you open your mouth on politics, be prepared to have people boycott you and your service, no matter the situation or how lame it may be.