Bill Nye #2: Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children

[quote]sharpenedsword wrote:
I think adherents of macro evolution are absolute proof that people can be convinced of anything provided some authority tells them something. After all, if you don’t have God, you HAVE to have some kind of explanation for how we got here. What makes Christians (Yes, CHRISTIANS) actually some of the world’s greatest discoverers and scientists (YES, SCIENTISTS) is that we don’t so easily fall into a stupid dogma of man, thus allowing us more freedom and creativity. Every non-believer knows God is real, but the natural human reaction is to “Hide, because I was naked”. I personally feel rather sorry for people who spend their whole lives looking for an answer to a question that has been so obvious from the beginning. But as as the saying goes “what’s new under the sun?”
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You are aware that most Christian biologist believe ToE, right?

[quote]sharpenedsword wrote:
After all, if you don’t have God, you HAVE to have some kind of explanation for how we got here.
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No, you don’t.
You can say you don’t know instead of jumping to the conclusion that God did it.

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:<<< You are aware that most Christian biologist believe ToE, right?[/quote]You are aware that the vast majority of those calling themselves Christians in the western world are so only in the darkened delusions of their own minds. Evolution and Christianity are mutually exclusive. The longer the parade of false disciples you can produce to claim otherwise, the more thoroughly will be evinced the fulfillment of the warnings of the word of God concerning wolves in sheep’s clothing and doctrines of demons.

“Christian” means something. I don’t care what the servants of Satan claiming the name of Jesus say. That definition is not subject to amendment and or revision at the hands of sinful insolent men who take it upon themselves to call God a liar. I have one thousand times more respect for the Bil Nye’s of the world than I do for compromising cowards who attempt to pollute the reputation of my Lord with their paganism. The former will have much less to answer for at the judgement.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:<<< You are aware that most Christian biologist believe ToE, right?[/quote]You are aware that the vast majority of those calling themselves Christians in the western world are so only in the darkened delusions of their own minds. Evolution and Christianity are mutually exclusive. The longer the parade of false disciples you can produce to claim otherwise, the more thoroughly will be evinced the fulfillment of the warnings of the word of God concerning wolves in sheep’s clothing and doctrines of demons.

“Christian” means something. I don’t care what the servants of Satan claiming the name of Jesus say. That definition is not subject to amendment and or revision at the hands of sinful insolent men who take it upon themselves to call God a liar. I have one thousand times more respect for the Bil Nye’s of the world than I do for compromising cowards who attempt to pollute the reputation of my Lord with their paganism. The former will have much less to answer for at the judgement.
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Even the devout Catholics on this board and in other places?

edit: I saw this post coming from a mile away. I just wasn’t sure who was going to post it. Not implying anything or discrediting your concern, I’m just saying.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
WOooo man Tribulus has really gone off the deep end in recent years. Sad to see.

Get well soon pal.[/quote]

@Fletch:
The answer to that question is actually the answer to a much larger one that will take us very far afield of this thread Fletch. I’m not dodging you and none of my disdain is pointed at you either just so you know though I think you already did. Macro evolution is just one of many easily discernible and predictable symptoms of man’s lostness without God as played out in the context of this modern world. Evolution is not some stubborn point of trouble for me. It is a mundane routine manifestation of sin.

I get little flights of interest once in a while when some new God killing breakthrough is said to have been discovered. Not many better faith builders than watching people do exactly what God says they’re gonna do, even when they themselves can read Him saying they’re gonna do it. I’m being dead serious. It both enhances my longing to see people saved and displays the glory of the living God.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote: WOooo man Tribulus has really gone off the deep end in recent years. Sad to see.
Get well soon pal.[/quote]There he is. My favorite Macpagan. Haven’t heard from ya in a while there dude. For the record I left the shallow end a very long time ago. I’m just finally really learning how to swim.

[quote]bigflamer wrote:
So, first you say this…

[quote]pat wrote:
Defeat it then sampson… Put your money where your mouth is. I won’t hold my breath.[/quote]

Then this falls out of your sewer…

[quote]pat wrote:
BTW, if you just post a bunch of silly links, then so will I. That doesn’t prove you know shit. Anyone can google.[/quote]

Jesus H. Fucking Christ on a stick, you really are dumb as a bucket of mule piss. It’s conversations such as this that qualify me to label you a dumb ass. Way to avoid the debate, patty cakes. Or…I have an idea, maybe you can make the attempt to answer my questions; maybe. I rather hope you try.

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Wow, is this the best you can do? Really? LOL! That’s just pathetic. Ooooo you called me a bunch of names! What are you 12?

FAIL.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:
So, first you say this…

[quote]pat wrote:
Defeat it then sampson… Put your money where your mouth is. I won’t hold my breath.[/quote]

Then this falls out of your sewer…

[quote]pat wrote:
BTW, if you just post a bunch of silly links, then so will I. That doesn’t prove you know shit. Anyone can google.[/quote]

Jesus H. Fucking Christ on a stick, you really are dumb as a bucket of mule piss. It’s conversations such as this that qualify me to label you a dumb ass. Way to avoid the debate, patty cakes. Or…I have an idea, maybe you can make the attempt to answer my questions; maybe. I rather hope you try.

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Wow, is this the best you can do? Really? LOL! That’s just pathetic. Ooooo you called me a bunch of names! What are you 12?

FAIL.[/quote]

And you still avoid the argument…

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:
So, first you say this…

[quote]pat wrote:
Defeat it then sampson… Put your money where your mouth is. I won’t hold my breath.[/quote]

Then this falls out of your sewer…

[quote]pat wrote:
BTW, if you just post a bunch of silly links, then so will I. That doesn’t prove you know shit. Anyone can google.[/quote]

Jesus H. Fucking Christ on a stick, you really are dumb as a bucket of mule piss. It’s conversations such as this that qualify me to label you a dumb ass. Way to avoid the debate, patty cakes. Or…I have an idea, maybe you can make the attempt to answer my questions; maybe. I rather hope you try.

[/quote]
Wow, is this the best you can do? Really? LOL! That’s just pathetic. Ooooo you called me a bunch of names! What are you 12?

FAIL.[/quote]

And you still avoid the argument…
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You haven’t presented one. You told me how stupid I was and called me a bunch of names, is that your argument? 'Cause as far as I know, you don’t have one an never did.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:
So, first you say this…

[quote]pat wrote:
Defeat it then sampson… Put your money where your mouth is. I won’t hold my breath.[/quote]

Then this falls out of your sewer…

[quote]pat wrote:
BTW, if you just post a bunch of silly links, then so will I. That doesn’t prove you know shit. Anyone can google.[/quote]

Jesus H. Fucking Christ on a stick, you really are dumb as a bucket of mule piss. It’s conversations such as this that qualify me to label you a dumb ass. Way to avoid the debate, patty cakes. Or…I have an idea, maybe you can make the attempt to answer my questions; maybe. I rather hope you try.

[/quote]
Wow, is this the best you can do? Really? LOL! That’s just pathetic. Ooooo you called me a bunch of names! What are you 12?

FAIL.[/quote]

And you still avoid the argument…
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You haven’t presented one. You told me how stupid I was and called me a bunch of names, is that your argument? 'Cause as far as I know, you don’t have one an never did.[/quote]

Well, I’ll give you this, you’re half right at least with the above statement. I certainly did inform you of your obvious stupidity and call you a bunch of names; guilty as charged.

Try and recall, that it was YOU who presented the argument; I simply threw the bullshit flag on you, and presented a counter argument in the form of questions, the answers to which will support my counter argument. So I’ll once again ask of you, to simply answer the questions.

Is all of this too confusing for you? Cuz if you just don’t want to answer the questions, feel free to piss off.

Interesting arguments.

Push, why no response about Neanderthals, Cro Magnons, and other Neolithic peoples?

(eyeroll) lol, Nice one Tiribulus.

Well Matty, I’m glad you took me in the jovial spirit I intended. Of course I was jist ribbin ya.

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:
So, first you say this…

[quote]pat wrote:
Defeat it then sampson… Put your money where your mouth is. I won’t hold my breath.[/quote]

Then this falls out of your sewer…

[quote]pat wrote:
BTW, if you just post a bunch of silly links, then so will I. That doesn’t prove you know shit. Anyone can google.[/quote]

Jesus H. Fucking Christ on a stick, you really are dumb as a bucket of mule piss. It’s conversations such as this that qualify me to label you a dumb ass. Way to avoid the debate, patty cakes. Or…I have an idea, maybe you can make the attempt to answer my questions; maybe. I rather hope you try.

[/quote]
Wow, is this the best you can do? Really? LOL! That’s just pathetic. Ooooo you called me a bunch of names! What are you 12?

FAIL.[/quote]

And you still avoid the argument…
[/quote]

You haven’t presented one. You told me how stupid I was and called me a bunch of names, is that your argument? 'Cause as far as I know, you don’t have one an never did.[/quote]

Well, I’ll give you this, you’re half right at least with the above statement. I certainly did inform you of your obvious stupidity and call you a bunch of names; guilty as charged.

Try and recall, that it was YOU who presented the argument; I simply threw the bullshit flag on you, and presented a counter argument in the form of questions, the answers to which will support my counter argument. So I’ll once again ask of you, to simply answer the questions.

Is all of this too confusing for you? Cuz if you just don’t want to answer the questions, feel free to piss off.[/quote]

You presented no counter argument. Saying “Bullshit” is not a counter argument. So no, I most definitely am not confused. You brought in Hitler and Pol Pot, those are not counter arguments. Those are red herrings, diversions. Then you called me a bunch of nasty mean names, not very creative, and still not counter arguments. It’s utter garbage, but apparently it’s all you got, garbage, nothing.
Quit whining. Put up, or shut up.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:
So, first you say this…

[quote]pat wrote:
Defeat it then sampson… Put your money where your mouth is. I won’t hold my breath.[/quote]

Then this falls out of your sewer…

[quote]pat wrote:
BTW, if you just post a bunch of silly links, then so will I. That doesn’t prove you know shit. Anyone can google.[/quote]

Jesus H. Fucking Christ on a stick, you really are dumb as a bucket of mule piss. It’s conversations such as this that qualify me to label you a dumb ass. Way to avoid the debate, patty cakes. Or…I have an idea, maybe you can make the attempt to answer my questions; maybe. I rather hope you try.

[/quote]
Wow, is this the best you can do? Really? LOL! That’s just pathetic. Ooooo you called me a bunch of names! What are you 12?

FAIL.[/quote]

And you still avoid the argument…
[/quote]

You haven’t presented one. You told me how stupid I was and called me a bunch of names, is that your argument? 'Cause as far as I know, you don’t have one an never did.[/quote]

Well, I’ll give you this, you’re half right at least with the above statement. I certainly did inform you of your obvious stupidity and call you a bunch of names; guilty as charged.

Try and recall, that it was YOU who presented the argument; I simply threw the bullshit flag on you, and presented a counter argument in the form of questions, the answers to which will support my counter argument. So I’ll once again ask of you, to simply answer the questions.

Is all of this too confusing for you? Cuz if you just don’t want to answer the questions, feel free to piss off.[/quote]

You presented no counter argument. Saying “Bullshit” is not a counter argument. So no, I most definitely am not confused. You brought in Hitler and Pol Pot, those are not counter arguments. Those are red herrings, diversions. Then you called me a bunch of nasty mean names, not very creative, and still not counter arguments. It’s utter garbage, but apparently it’s all you got, garbage, nothing.
Quit whining. Put up, or shut up.[/quote]

And you still won’t even attempt to answer the questions…

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:
So, first you say this…

[quote]pat wrote:
Defeat it then sampson… Put your money where your mouth is. I won’t hold my breath.[/quote]

Then this falls out of your sewer…

[quote]pat wrote:
BTW, if you just post a bunch of silly links, then so will I. That doesn’t prove you know shit. Anyone can google.[/quote]

Jesus H. Fucking Christ on a stick, you really are dumb as a bucket of mule piss. It’s conversations such as this that qualify me to label you a dumb ass. Way to avoid the debate, patty cakes. Or…I have an idea, maybe you can make the attempt to answer my questions; maybe. I rather hope you try.

[/quote]
Wow, is this the best you can do? Really? LOL! That’s just pathetic. Ooooo you called me a bunch of names! What are you 12?

FAIL.[/quote]

And you still avoid the argument…
[/quote]

You haven’t presented one. You told me how stupid I was and called me a bunch of names, is that your argument? 'Cause as far as I know, you don’t have one an never did.[/quote]

Well, I’ll give you this, you’re half right at least with the above statement. I certainly did inform you of your obvious stupidity and call you a bunch of names; guilty as charged.

Try and recall, that it was YOU who presented the argument; I simply threw the bullshit flag on you, and presented a counter argument in the form of questions, the answers to which will support my counter argument. So I’ll once again ask of you, to simply answer the questions.

Is all of this too confusing for you? Cuz if you just don’t want to answer the questions, feel free to piss off.[/quote]

You presented no counter argument. Saying “Bullshit” is not a counter argument. So no, I most definitely am not confused. You brought in Hitler and Pol Pot, those are not counter arguments. Those are red herrings, diversions. Then you called me a bunch of nasty mean names, not very creative, and still not counter arguments. It’s utter garbage, but apparently it’s all you got, garbage, nothing.
Quit whining. Put up, or shut up.[/quote]

And you still won’t even attempt to answer the questions…[/quote]

You didn’t ask any questions, nimrod. How the fuck dense can you be? You want me to answer a question, ask a question.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:
So, first you say this…

[quote]pat wrote:
Defeat it then sampson… Put your money where your mouth is. I won’t hold my breath.[/quote]

Then this falls out of your sewer…

[quote]pat wrote:
BTW, if you just post a bunch of silly links, then so will I. That doesn’t prove you know shit. Anyone can google.[/quote]

Jesus H. Fucking Christ on a stick, you really are dumb as a bucket of mule piss. It’s conversations such as this that qualify me to label you a dumb ass. Way to avoid the debate, patty cakes. Or…I have an idea, maybe you can make the attempt to answer my questions; maybe. I rather hope you try.

[/quote]
Wow, is this the best you can do? Really? LOL! That’s just pathetic. Ooooo you called me a bunch of names! What are you 12?

FAIL.[/quote]

And you still avoid the argument…
[/quote]

You haven’t presented one. You told me how stupid I was and called me a bunch of names, is that your argument? 'Cause as far as I know, you don’t have one an never did.[/quote]

Well, I’ll give you this, you’re half right at least with the above statement. I certainly did inform you of your obvious stupidity and call you a bunch of names; guilty as charged.

Try and recall, that it was YOU who presented the argument; I simply threw the bullshit flag on you, and presented a counter argument in the form of questions, the answers to which will support my counter argument. So I’ll once again ask of you, to simply answer the questions.

Is all of this too confusing for you? Cuz if you just don’t want to answer the questions, feel free to piss off.[/quote]

You presented no counter argument. Saying “Bullshit” is not a counter argument. So no, I most definitely am not confused. You brought in Hitler and Pol Pot, those are not counter arguments. Those are red herrings, diversions. Then you called me a bunch of nasty mean names, not very creative, and still not counter arguments. It’s utter garbage, but apparently it’s all you got, garbage, nothing.
Quit whining. Put up, or shut up.[/quote]

And you still won’t even attempt to answer the questions…[/quote]

You didn’t ask any questions, nimrod. How the fuck dense can you be? You want me to answer a question, ask a question. [/quote]

Fucks sake man, I gotta hold your hand through this whole process!?

This was posted by me on the previopus page:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:
Tell me, what drives a MAO, a Hitler, or a Pol Pot do do what they did? Was Hitler even an atheist? If it helps…you could try google.[/quote]

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:
So, first you say this…

[quote]pat wrote:
Defeat it then sampson… Put your money where your mouth is. I won’t hold my breath.[/quote]

Then this falls out of your sewer…

[quote]pat wrote:
BTW, if you just post a bunch of silly links, then so will I. That doesn’t prove you know shit. Anyone can google.[/quote]

Jesus H. Fucking Christ on a stick, you really are dumb as a bucket of mule piss. It’s conversations such as this that qualify me to label you a dumb ass. Way to avoid the debate, patty cakes. Or…I have an idea, maybe you can make the attempt to answer my questions; maybe. I rather hope you try.

[/quote]
Wow, is this the best you can do? Really? LOL! That’s just pathetic. Ooooo you called me a bunch of names! What are you 12?

FAIL.[/quote]

And you still avoid the argument…
[/quote]

You haven’t presented one. You told me how stupid I was and called me a bunch of names, is that your argument? 'Cause as far as I know, you don’t have one an never did.[/quote]

Well, I’ll give you this, you’re half right at least with the above statement. I certainly did inform you of your obvious stupidity and call you a bunch of names; guilty as charged.

Try and recall, that it was YOU who presented the argument; I simply threw the bullshit flag on you, and presented a counter argument in the form of questions, the answers to which will support my counter argument. So I’ll once again ask of you, to simply answer the questions.

Is all of this too confusing for you? Cuz if you just don’t want to answer the questions, feel free to piss off.[/quote]

You presented no counter argument. Saying “Bullshit” is not a counter argument. So no, I most definitely am not confused. You brought in Hitler and Pol Pot, those are not counter arguments. Those are red herrings, diversions. Then you called me a bunch of nasty mean names, not very creative, and still not counter arguments. It’s utter garbage, but apparently it’s all you got, garbage, nothing.
Quit whining. Put up, or shut up.[/quote]

And you still won’t even attempt to answer the questions…[/quote]

You didn’t ask any questions, nimrod. How the fuck dense can you be? You want me to answer a question, ask a question. [/quote]

Fucks sake man, I gotta hold your hand through this whole process!?

This was posted by me on the previopus page:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:
Tell me, what drives a MAO, a Hitler, or a Pol Pot do do what they did? Was Hitler even an atheist? If it helps…you could try google.[/quote]
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I did answer that. I mistakenly called it a strawman it’s actually a red herring. It’s doesn’t make the slightest damn if hitler and pol pot where Carmalite Nuns working for the ‘Our Lady of Chastity’ convent. How the hell does what hitler or pol pot believed make a shit about whether or not God exists, where or not something can come from nothing, or whether or not religion is right, wrong or indifferent.
Introducing shit has nothing to do with anything is a ridiculous proposition. I never made a claim that hitler was anything, or pol pot. They may be relevant evil bastards in history, but they are not relevant to a discussion about the existence of God and epistemology.

If you are actually curios though about the history of the evils of atheism in history then here is a link you can peruse at your own leisure (like you would even bother), but it’s here.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

So do you have anything relevant to the argument at hand or do you just want to introduce irrelevant points that are utterly meaningless?