[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Who the hell wants herpes?[/quote]
Given how many people I’m told have it, I’m feeling a bit left out.
[quote]sands wrote:
Wait, why were the boys even there? were there sons friends with them?
Now thats uncomftable.
“Honey, can you leave the room while mommy and her friend seduce your class mates.”[/quote]
One of the upper classmen this year would have parties, and his mom would invite her friends over and hit on his friends when they were drunk.
Wow, have any of you who disagree with this even asked any 15 what they would have thought of this?
Almost any guy at 15 or 14 would know who they would and wouldn’t fuck. Once you are that age, I don’t really think it is that hard to decide when and when not to have sex.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Natural Nate wrote:
Makavali wrote:
katzenjammer wrote:
Is it possible for a woman to rape a man? (Obviously, without using a sexual device/implement…)
Loaded question. The standard argument is that arousal does not imply consent.
And Viagra stacked with a roofie (colada)?
I’ve posted this before, but I read a story in one of those edumacational pamphlets about this guy and girl at a college party. They went to his room for more drinking. He passed out, but somehow still got an erection and the chick fucked him with no protection while he was out.
BAM - he got herpes.
I am sorry ,I don’t beleive it. He may not remeber but he wanted it
Who the hell wants herpes?
No One He claimed she raped him and gave him Herpes, If he would have just said she gave him herpes I would have believed it.
A night of drinking ,then secluding your self with a women just to party. It just does not sound like the truth.
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Look if, back in college, you raped women after they passed out in their dorms and gave them herpes then you need to forgive yourself and move on. Stop trying to cover up your guilt with ridiculous notions that someone can give consent even if they’re not conscious.
[quote]Natural Nate wrote:
Look if, back in college, you raped women after they passed out in their dorms and gave them herpes then you need to forgive yourself and move on. Stop trying to cover up your guilt with ridiculous notions that someone can give consent even if they’re not conscious.[/quote]
I always carry pre-signed consent forms when I hang around chicks, just in case I pass out.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Natural Nate wrote:
Look if, back in college, you raped women after they passed out in their dorms and gave them herpes then you need to forgive yourself and move on. Stop trying to cover up your guilt with ridiculous notions that someone can give consent even if they’re not conscious.
I always carry pre-signed consent forms when I hang around chicks, just in case I pass out.[/quote]
Like a living will. Except instead of giving permission to pull THE plug, you’re letting them pull YOUR plug. Interesting…
[quote]Natural Nate wrote:
Like a living will. Except instead of giving permission to pull THE plug, you’re letting them pull YOUR plug. Interesting…[/quote]
Perfect analogy.
There’s clause only allowing attractive chicks to have sex with me though.
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
Wow, have any of you who disagree with this even asked any 15 what they would have thought of this?
Almost any guy at 15 or 14 would know who they would and wouldn’t fuck. Once you are that age, I don’t really think it is that hard to decide when and when not to have sex.[/quote]
I agree (kind of) - of course teenagers that age have a drive and a certain amount of judgment whom they’d like to have sex with (regardless if they are allowed by law to follow up on that). My problem actually isn’t at all with them. I also think that an age of consent of 18 is pretty unrealistic; where I grew up it was 16 for heterosexual (younger if the parents agreed) and 18 for homosexual sex (which was then reduced to the same standard for good measure).
My problem with this thread was the audience reaction: the double standard of overall hailing the ‘lucky boys’, in the face of regular shouts for public hangings for child molestation if it happens in a different context: adult males and young females, homosexual sex. In short - it’s us who are the hypocrites and that’s what I wanted to point out.
Makkun
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
Hey, why didn’t this shit happen to me when I was 14?
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That’s exactly what i was thinking!
[quote]Natural Nate wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Natural Nate wrote:
Makavali wrote:
katzenjammer wrote:
Is it possible for a woman to rape a man? (Obviously, without using a sexual device/implement…)
Loaded question. The standard argument is that arousal does not imply consent.
And Viagra stacked with a roofie (colada)?
I’ve posted this before, but I read a story in one of those edumacational pamphlets about this guy and girl at a college party. They went to his room for more drinking. He passed out, but somehow still got an erection and the chick fucked him with no protection while he was out.
BAM - he got herpes.
I am sorry ,I don’t beleive it. He may not remeber but he wanted it
Who the hell wants herpes?
No One He claimed she raped him and gave him Herpes, If he would have just said she gave him herpes I would have believed it.
A night of drinking ,then secluding your self with a women just to party. It just does not sound like the truth.
Look if, back in college, you raped women after they passed out in their dorms and gave them herpes then you need to forgive yourself and move on. Stop trying to cover up your guilt with ridiculous notions that someone can give consent even if they’re not conscious.
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I just question that the guy had no intention of boinking the girl when he invited her back to his room, it is possible but from all the guys I know I would say it is highly unlikely
The original MILF!
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I just question that the guy had no intention of boinking the girl when he invited her back to his room, it is possible but from all the guys I know I would say it is highly unlikely
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I don’t think anyone would disagree with that.
But if the dude passes out - his previous advances don’t count!
[quote]Natural Nate wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
I just question that the guy had no intention of boinking the girl when he invited her back to his room, it is possible but from all the guys I know I would say it is highly unlikely
I don’t think anyone would disagree with that.
But if the dude passes out - his previous advances don’t count![/quote]
If a dude passes out then there is no point in sex because he won’t get any pleasure from it.
[quote]makkun wrote:
My problem with this thread was the audience reaction: the double standard of overall hailing the ‘lucky boys’, in the face of regular shouts for public hangings for child molestation if it happens in a different context: adult males and young females, homosexual sex. In short - it’s us who are the hypocrites and that’s what I wanted to point out.
Makkun[/quote]
Having a double standard does not make a hypocrite. Men and women are different.
[quote]makkun wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
Wow, have any of you who disagree with this even asked any 15 what they would have thought of this?
Almost any guy at 15 or 14 would know who they would and wouldn’t fuck. Once you are that age, I don’t really think it is that hard to decide when and when not to have sex.
I agree (kind of) - of course teenagers that age have a drive and a certain amount of judgment whom they’d like to have sex with (regardless if they are allowed by law to follow up on that). My problem actually isn’t at all with them. I also think that an age of consent of 18 is pretty unrealistic; where I grew up it was 16 for heterosexual (younger if the parents agreed) and 18 for homosexual sex (which was then reduced to the same standard for good measure).
My problem with this thread was the audience reaction: the double standard of overall hailing the ‘lucky boys’, in the face of regular shouts for public hangings for child molestation if it happens in a different context: adult males and young females, homosexual sex. In short - it’s us who are the hypocrites and that’s what I wanted to point out.
Makkun[/quote]
Hell, if a girl that age want’s to have sex with an adult much older, then it’s her problem, not mine. But, she does have to be more careful as she could be taken advantage of much easier. It’s not really us who are making these double standards, but the society. The fear of unsafe sex or rape is much higher in women due to all the fucked up guys out there, and that is what I believe actually causes this double standard.
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
Hell, if a girl that age want’s to have sex with an adult much older, then it’s her problem, not mine. But, she does have to be more careful as she could be taken advantage of much easier. It’s not really us who are making these double standards, but the society. The fear of unsafe sex or rape is much higher in women due to all the fucked up guys out there, and that is what I believe actually causes this double standard.[/quote]
This double standard exists because deep down society is extremely sexist.
Women are weak and need to be protected and men are bullies that use their strength to take what doesn’t belong to them.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
This double standard exists because deep down society is extremely sexist.
Women are weak and need to be protected and men are bullies that use their strength to take what doesn’t belong to them.[/quote]
Actually it’s more like:
Having sex with a variety of hot partners increases a man’s self-image and the same is not true for a woman.
[quote]
makkun wrote:
My problem with this thread was the audience reaction: the double standard of overall hailing the ‘lucky boys’, in the face of regular shouts for public hangings for child molestation if it happens in a different context: adult males and young females, homosexual sex. In short - it’s us who are the hypocrites and that’s what I wanted to point out.
Makkun
Natural Nate wrote:
Having a double standard does not make a hypocrite. Men and women are different.[/quote]
Couldn’t disagree more: double standards define hypocrisy. Sure, boys and girls are different - but that doesn’t warrant patronising the girls (or the boys in the gay context). Besides that before the law, the acts are the same - no double standard allowed, and rightly so.
Makkun
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
[…]
Hell, if a girl that age want’s to have sex with an adult much older, then it’s her problem, not mine.[/quote]
As I pointed out, neither do I. It may become a problem for the adult in the equation, if s/he breaks the law; as has happened in this case. My problem lies somewhere else - see below.
It is us - our attitudes define society. Perfectly manifested in your assumption that a girl can be taken advantage of much easier; that’s a very classic, but IMO questionable attitude. What do you base that opinion on? That girls are per definition more vulnerable and need (male) protection? How delightfully unreconstructed.
The pressures by partners on women to practise unsafe sex aside, the fear of rape is much higher in women because women are more likely to be raped by men. It would be a sad society that accepts the standards of fucked up guys who engage in that behaviour. The standards are set by us - the ‘normal’ men and women that constitute society. Don’t blame society when you can take responsibility yourself.
Makkun
[quote]makkun wrote:
Besides that before the law, the acts are the same - no double standard allowed, and rightly so.
Makkun[/quote]
Which is a shame. I’d love for someone to explain the “crime” in a hot woman banging a willing and healthy 16 year old male.
Hell the fact that it’s labeled a crime and that the male is labeled as a “victim” is probably where the negative effect (if any) comes from.