[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]nomorewar wrote:
David Pietrusza,(fixed the 1919 world series) [/quote]
You mean Arnold Rothstein.
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yea… you’re right… sorry about that.
The Hughes book is called Citizen Hughes and I believe the author’s name is Michael Drosnin. Trust me, it’s even wilder than I made it sound. A true testament to the saying “truth is stranger than fiction.”
Me, you’ve never heard of all the crimes I’ve committed have you? There you go then.
Not to be ironic, but how about a nod to our prolific poster’s namesake, the original DB Cooper?
THe one about the bank heist has a really good book about on it. I cant think if the name now and the books in my garage, ill go check tomorrow and let you know.
[quote]Humbert wrote:
Not to be ironic, but how about a nod to our prolific poster’s namesake, the original DB Cooper?[/quote]
I AM the original DB Cooper…
Crazy how planned out this heist was. A freaking Helicopter! Awesome.
we know nothing about him or her…she could be a sneaky one.
[quote]Petermus wrote:
we know nothing about him or her…she could be a sneaky one.[/quote]
X2, you have never heard of them. They are that good.
V
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I wouldn’t say he was the greatest mind, intelligence-wise, but my vote would go to Howard Hughes. I just read this wild book about his time in Vegas and then abroad between the late 50’s to about '75 or '76. This guy literally tried to buy the whole country. Vegas was just a monopoly game for him and he was able to use his wealth and clout to violate virtually every anti-trust law in existence at the time in a successful attempt to buy every casino available.
He bribed or outright bought everyone, from LBJ to Nixon (several times) to RFK to all sorts of lower level politicians, including several Attorney Generals, virtually every politician from Nevada and the Atomic Energy Commission. He was the single largest supplier of surveillance equipment to the CIA.
But his dealings with Nixon and LBJ were the wildest. He bribed everyone who could be bought to avoid anti-trust laws, fraudently manipulated the stock of TWA and ABC in order to buy them outright, again in violation of many laws that the people he bribed simply created loopholes in specifically for him. His medical foundation was nothing more than a front so that he could literally donate money to himself, tax-free.
When Congress moved to change these laws, he successfully bribed all the right people until they made a loophole for medical foundations strictly so that he could continue to siphon money. In 1968, his estimated wealth was more than 1.3 billion! And he had paid less than a million in taxes between 1956 and 1968.
His illegal campaign contributions in exchange for favors were wild too. His bagman, Robert Maheu, went around with bundles of hundred dollar bills fraudently skimmed from his casinos to bribe everyone from Governor Laxalt of Nevada to Nixon himself. In fact, he even bribed Larry O’Brien, the head of the DNC, and hired him as a “consultant”, namely to act as his point man on all sorts of political fixings, all while O’Brien was the head of the DNC.
O’Brien was also the head of JFK and RFK’s political teams and as such, Nixon hated him and feared that he knew that Nixon had accepted almost half a million in cash bribes since 1960 from Hughes. This is what started Watergate: the insatiable need for Nixon to get dirt on O’Brien and find out all he knew about Nixon’s own illegal dealings.
But what makes Hughes the successful “mastermind” that he was, is that not only was he NEVER caught, he accomplished all this while never being seen by anybody! The FBI was asked by LBJ to investigate whether or not the most powerful man in the world even existed or not, and the FBI wouldn’t even touch it! He got away with everything while the whole fucking government collapsed around him during Watergate, which he had started.
This fucking guy had Henry Kissinger ready to reveal all sorts of top-secret info about nuke testing, LBJ and Nixon practically begged him for illegal cash, he avoided ever having to appear in public despite the constant litigation against him (which he always won) revolving around his anti-trust violations, and he was the biggest contractor with the CIA and one of the largest defense contractors in the world, and you could count on one hand how many people saw and spoke to him face to face the last twenty years of his life. [/quote]
well I know that’s all bullshit, politicians don’t take bribes.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
The Hughes book is called Citizen Hughes and I believe the author’s name is Michael Drosnin. Trust me, it’s even wilder than I made it sound. A true testament to the saying “truth is stranger than fiction.”[/quote]
Yeah okay but authors aren’t exactly scientfic journalists. What’s the security that it isn’t just sensationalism?
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
The Hughes book is called Citizen Hughes and I believe the author’s name is Michael Drosnin. Trust me, it’s even wilder than I made it sound. A true testament to the saying “truth is stranger than fiction.”[/quote]
Yeah okay but authors aren’t exactly scientfic journalists. What’s the security that it isn’t just sensationalism?[/quote]
Hughes’ own words, cross-referenced and verified through the presidential libraries of LBJ and Nixon, and also in Nixon’s case his infamous tapes. Most of what was written came from Hughes’ personal correspondences via letter and phone calls. He was an extreme obsessive-compulsive (he went so far as to store and collect his urine years at a time) and he saved all of his letters that he wrote to everyone and he had transcripts recorded of all of his phone calls.
This isn’t the Clifford Irving bio that was written by Irving a couple years before Hughes died. That was proven to be a complete fraud by the same forensics experts who verified the legitimacy of the letters in this particular book. But if you want to know how they got all this info in the first place, read the book. It’s detailed in the first two chapters and how they got all the info is as wild as the info contained in the letters/transcripts themselves.
Fidel Castro
Played the Russians as fools.
Mocked and almost brought the most powerful country in the world to nuclear war all while 90 miles from it’s coast.
Survived multiple CIA assassination attempts.
Influenced countless revolutions.
Shot down two United States civilian aircrafts in international waters which had US citizen pilots and received nothing but a slap on the wrist.
He did this all from a tiny little island which he uses as his playground.
The best criminal masterminds would never be heard of because they wouldn’t be caught. I always think of this when you see the “top 20 criminals of all time” in magazines. They wouldn’t be the best criminals of all time, they’d be the best criminals that got caught.
[quote]pro.nub wrote:
The best criminal masterminds would never be heard of because they wouldn’t be caught. I always think of this when you see the “top 20 criminals of all time” in magazines. They wouldn’t be the best criminals of all time, they’d be the best criminals that got caught.[/quote]
How about that assassination that was carried out back in February? I think it was 8 people, disguise changes, coordinated movements in a hotel. It was like something out of a movie.
whoever REALLY shot JFK.
Wait…please explain? I did not hear about this
[quote]JSMaxwell wrote:
[quote]pro.nub wrote:
The best criminal masterminds would never be heard of because they wouldn’t be caught. I always think of this when you see the “top 20 criminals of all time” in magazines. They wouldn’t be the best criminals of all time, they’d be the best criminals that got caught.[/quote]
How about that assassination that was carried out back in February? I think it was 8 people, disguise changes, coordinated movements in a hotel. It was like something out of a movie.
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How about the 20 or so people at J.P. Morgan who created industrial derivatives and then turned shitty mortgages into gold-ranked investments and in so doing pretty well broke the world?
They’ve got to be up there.
No wait, Obama. I said it first. (that’s a joke. Obama’s the man: see here: P080910PS-0356 | President Barack Obama jokingly puts his to… | Flickr)
[quote]SeanParent wrote:
Wait…please explain? I did not hear about this
[quote]JSMaxwell wrote:
[quote]pro.nub wrote:
The best criminal masterminds would never be heard of because they wouldn’t be caught. I always think of this when you see the “top 20 criminals of all time” in magazines. They wouldn’t be the best criminals of all time, they’d be the best criminals that got caught.[/quote]
How about that assassination that was carried out back in February? I think it was 8 people, disguise changes, coordinated movements in a hotel. It was like something out of a movie.
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It was a Mossad hit on Islamic terrorists
Pablo Escobar- for every $1 he put into his business, he got about $200 in return.
The Russian Oligarch’s of the last 15 years
Joaquin Guzman Loera, drug kinpin, is doing pretty well: