[quote]rainjack wrote:
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lol nice, thanks for filling me in.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
You need new material.
See Anbar Province.
JeffR[/quote]
You need to consider more aspects.
See Iraqi legislature.
Note lack of progress.
Attempt to reconcile with retarded pompom waving.
Fail.
Again.
[quote]pookie wrote:
See Iraqi legislature.
Note lack of progress.
[/quote]
See American legislature…
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
See American legislature… [/quote]
Look at America.
Note lack of ongoing civil war.
Note lack of weekly car bombings.
Note lack of sniper victims in family.
Note most appendages intact, if short in length.
Be thankful for ineffective legislature.
[quote]pookie wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
See American legislature…
Look at America.
Note lack of ongoing civil war.
Note lack of weekly car bombings.
Note lack of sniper victims in family.
Note most appendages intact, if short in length.
Be thankful for ineffective legislature.
[/quote]
pookie,
Zap is correct. Most of us Americans are having a hard time being too critical of the Iraqi Politicians. We just don’t like being hypocritical.
Ever hear tell about what happened between 1861-1865? Ever hear of Charles Sumner? Aaron Burr?
It’s real hard for us to castigate other legislative bodies.
Please take special note how poorly our current Congress operates.
Imagine our current Congress replacing the Iraqi Legislature!!! You could make a case that our current Congress would muck it up far worse.
Oh, here is all the “hailing as liberators” that we ever needed:
Here’s my favorite part:
JeffR
[quote]pookie wrote:
You need to consider more aspects.
See Iraqi legislature.
Note lack of progress.
Attempt to reconcile with retarded pompom waving.
Fail.
Again.
[/quote]
Really?
Here is a major breakthrough YESTERDAY, February 13th, 2008.
Great news for reconciliation.
Note the Sunni’s returning? Note the new elections?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080213/wl_nm/iraq_dc
My favorite parts: [quote]“We have proven today that Iraqis are just one bloc,” said parliament speaker Mahmoud Mashhadani, a Sunni Arab.[/quote]
Favorite part two:
Favorite part three:
Success for the Good Guys.
JeffR
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
I just don’t understand how a town could think it’s a good idea to tell the marines to get out. It’s not like they were dragging 15 year olds off to fight, yet they were made out as bad people who steal the youth of America to go fight.
Last I checked I walked into a marine recruiting site by my own free will without anyone ever telling me to.
Not only does the town piss me off (I mean really, don’t they have something more important to do?) but the protestors don’t help any. I can respect the right to protest and it’s a good thing people do. Lord knows what would happen if people just let the government do what it wants! However, I highly doubt many of those protestors are protesting the war, rather they are protesting government.
The vast majority of them are young teenagers who are all punked out. They aren’t thinking about the people dieing, rather they just want a reason to defy authority. I was once part of that punk crowd and I too protested the war. I however protested going to Iraq when Iran was clearly a worse threat and we were hardly done with Afghanistan. I didn’t want to see our troops spread so thin that they couldn’t win on any front which is exactly what happened.
Just seeing these young kids being complete morons really gets under my skin. I guess it bugs me on two levels. One, because I support our troops and have many friends out there in Iraq. Secondly it pisses me off because these young people are being idiots for the sake of being idiots. There was once a decent message in the punk music and scene, now it’s just a bunch of fat teenagers wearing all black and wanting to defy anyone with authority.
Dumbasses wouldn’t even know what to do if they were dumped off in a lawless society.
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wow to you …all i can say is wow
i mean i fucking hate it when someone manages to think they know an entire people/population within the miniscule amount of people they met in the few days they were there.
and then you have to top it off with being angry at them for having ideas that contradict yours? yea what assholes…
btw this all in good fun love a good debate… so whered u hit up?
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
CrewPierce wrote:
lol I take it you missed that little section under my name called location? I at least currently live in SC, but this has been all over the news lately.
No, I did’t miss it…
you should move away from Berkeley – further away until you aren’t bothered by what they do. I guarantee they don’t give a rip about the recruiters in your town.
Uhh I could move to China but as soon as I type in www.cnn.com and see the protestors I would still get annoyed.[/quote]
freedom of expression…a bitch aint it
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Zombie Kid Likes Turtles - YouTube [/quote]
That was wickedly funny! I needed that RJ, thanx!!!
[quote]JeffR wrote:
Please take special note how poorly our current Congress operates.
Imagine our current Congress replacing the Iraqi Legislature!!! You could make a case that our current Congress would muck it up far worse.
[/quote]
The 3 main candidates are US Senators. The American people are hiring one of these people, that come from an organisation which has close to a single digit approval rating, as our President.
I blame the people.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
rainjack wrote:
That was wickedly funny! I needed that RJ, thanx!!!
[/quote]
But O’Reilly doesn’t like turtles or Iran.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
pookie wrote:
You need to consider more aspects.
See Iraqi legislature.
Note lack of progress.
Attempt to reconcile with retarded pompom waving.
Fail.
Again.
Really?
Here is a major breakthrough YESTERDAY, February 13th, 2008.
Great news for reconciliation.
Note the Sunni’s returning? Note the new elections?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080213/wl_nm/iraq_dc
My favorite parts: “We have proven today that Iraqis are just one bloc,” said parliament speaker Mahmoud Mashhadani, a Sunni Arab.
Favorite part two:
The main Sunni Arab bloc, the Accordance Front, said passage of the amnesty law would help accelerate its return to the Shi’ite-led government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.
Favorite part three:
It allows for holding provincial elections by October 1 in which parties who boycotted previous polls could win some local power.
Success for the Good Guys.
JeffR
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And that is how you end a debate.
[quote]John S. wrote:
JeffR wrote:
pookie wrote:
You need to consider more aspects.
See Iraqi legislature.
Note lack of progress.
Attempt to reconcile with retarded pompom waving.
Fail.
Again.
Really?
Here is a major breakthrough YESTERDAY, February 13th, 2008.
Great news for reconciliation.
Note the Sunni’s returning? Note the new elections?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080213/wl_nm/iraq_dc
My favorite parts: “We have proven today that Iraqis are just one bloc,” said parliament speaker Mahmoud Mashhadani, a Sunni Arab.
Favorite part two:
The main Sunni Arab bloc, the Accordance Front, said passage of the amnesty law would help accelerate its return to the Shi’ite-led government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.
Favorite part three:
It allows for holding provincial elections by October 1 in which parties who boycotted previous polls could win some local power.
Success for the Good Guys.
JeffR
And that is how you end a debate.[/quote]
Thanks, John.
However, I must give pookie some credit. On occasion he’ll sack up and admit his error.
It isn’t often, but, he does.
JeffR
[quote]dlfury wrote:
CrewPierce wrote:
I just don’t understand how a town could think it’s a good idea to tell the marines to get out. It’s not like they were dragging 15 year olds off to fight, yet they were made out as bad people who steal the youth of America to go fight.
Last I checked I walked into a marine recruiting site by my own free will without anyone ever telling me to.
Not only does the town piss me off (I mean really, don’t they have something more important to do?) but the protestors don’t help any. I can respect the right to protest and it’s a good thing people do. Lord knows what would happen if people just let the government do what it wants! However, I highly doubt many of those protestors are protesting the war, rather they are protesting government.
The vast majority of them are young teenagers who are all punked out. They aren’t thinking about the people dieing, rather they just want a reason to defy authority. I was once part of that punk crowd and I too protested the war. I however protested going to Iraq when Iran was clearly a worse threat and we were hardly done with Afghanistan. I didn’t want to see our troops spread so thin that they couldn’t win on any front which is exactly what happened.
Just seeing these young kids being complete morons really gets under my skin. I guess it bugs me on two levels. One, because I support our troops and have many friends out there in Iraq. Secondly it pisses me off because these young people are being idiots for the sake of being idiots. There was once a decent message in the punk music and scene, now it’s just a bunch of fat teenagers wearing all black and wanting to defy anyone with authority.
Dumbasses wouldn’t even know what to do if they were dumped off in a lawless society.
wow to you …all i can say is wow
i mean i fucking hate it when someone manages to think they know an entire people/population within the miniscule amount of people they met in the few days they were there.
and then you have to top it off with being angry at them for having ideas that contradict yours? yea what assholes…[/quote]
Protesting the war is perfectly fine, I have no issues with that. We need people protesting, even the dumbest things, to let the government know we wont just sit on our asses when they do something we don’t like.
However when the town government votes to tell the marines they aren’t welcome in their town that’s where I draw the line. How can a local government think it’s a good idea to tell the men and women protecting them that they aren’t welcome in their town?
I just find it very poor judgement on their part to have ever voted on that.
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
How can a local government think it’s a good idea to tell the men and women protecting them that they aren’t welcome in their town? [/quote]
I don’t think it’s the “protecting” they have issues with. As I understand it, it’s got more to do with the gratuitous acts of aggression that benefit a small cabal while everybody else suffers the consequences.
Among those “men and women protecting them”, the majority wants the war on Iraq to end. At least, according to every poll I’ve seen in the last couple of years. So, in essence, Berkeley is only echoing a general concern, albeit in a radical and sensationalistic way.
By the way, when was the last time Bush or his side-kick set foot in Vermont?
[quote]lixy wrote:
I don’t think it’s the “protecting” they have issues with. As I understand it, it’s got more to do with the gratuitous acts of aggression that benefit a small cabal while everybody else suffers the consequences.[/quote]
And that’s your problem. You have proven time and again you don’t possess the ability to understand much of anything.
Everyone wants the war to end. That is not the same thing as being against the war. Then again - look who I am trying to explain this to. Never mind. Like everything else, it flies over your head.
When was the last time Bush was in Berkley? Go ahead and find a date. I’ll wait.
But while I am waiting, you do know that the Armed Forces has recruiting stations in all 50 states, right? There I go again, trying to get a retard to think.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Everyone wants the war to end. [/quote]
You don’t know that. People are speaking of stepping it up, going into Iran, staying a 100 years, etc.
Educate yourself, slim.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Educate yourself, slim.
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Let’s demonstrate yet another example of Lixy’s bad faith.
In another thread, day old news of an Islamist terror mastermind was cited by Lixy as “old news”, as in “who cares?”
Then, when Lixy tries to show antiwar bias in America via a Zogby poll to refute Rainjack, he cites a poll two years old. The poll date - if you bother reading it, as Lixy never does before he posts something that makes him look stupid - is February 28, 2006. Today’s date is February 15, 2008.
Honestly, Lixy - why do you keep posting here?