[quote]Limbic wrote:
What Bhutto’s death means is the ISI is in charge in Pakistan, and was certainly known in the US beforehand. The clean shaven fella with the dark shades and pistol in hand was certainly ISI.[/quote]
How can you be sure?
[quote]Limbic wrote:
The clean shaven fella with the dark shades and pistol in hand was certainly ISI.[/quote]
Who was the suicide bomber?
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Limbic wrote:
What Bhutto’s death means is the ISI is in charge in Pakistan, and was certainly known in the US beforehand. The clean shaven fella with the dark shades and pistol in hand was certainly ISI.
How can you be sure?[/quote]
His surety of manner did not have the “fuck you” about him like the militants tend to have. He appeared practised, as if he had no question of his “right” to do such a thing or of the need for such an act. His focus of concentration on her beforehand was as if they were finalizing an agreement they’d been discussing. Enough? ISI, as if no higher authority existed to hinder.
[quote]doogie wrote:
Limbic wrote:
The clean shaven fella with the dark shades and pistol in hand was certainly ISI.
Who was the suicide bomber?[/quote]
That I do not know. I would refer you to Zap and his slew of international sources. lol
It is not that hard to find people in third world countries willing to sacrifice their life in exchange for money going to their families.
Ministry backtracks on Bhutto sunroof claims
I have the lasting impression she “let them”?
[quote]Limbic wrote:
I have the lasting impression she “let them”?[/quote]
Interesting point. Could you elaborate on it?
[quote]doogie wrote:
Limbic wrote:
The clean shaven fella with the dark shades and pistol in hand was certainly ISI.
Who was the suicide bomber?[/quote]
He was al-qaeda. It was a joint mission.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
doogie wrote:
Limbic wrote:
The clean shaven fella with the dark shades and pistol in hand was certainly ISI.
Who was the suicide bomber?
He was al-qaeda. It was a joint mission.[/quote]
Undoubtedly a militant. What kind of a security presence could not have picked him out of a crowd? All it takes is to stand next to Mr.ISI and he’s got a free pass? How could Bhutto not have noticed such a character seeing as he lit up right next to her car?
Like a circus.
Charley Reese on “The Bhutto Mistake”
I love his articles.
[quote]Limbic wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
doogie wrote:
Limbic wrote:
The clean shaven fella with the dark shades and pistol in hand was certainly ISI.
Who was the suicide bomber?
He was al-qaeda. It was a joint mission.
Undoubtedly a militant. What kind of a security presence could not have picked him out of a crowd? All it takes is to stand next to Mr.ISI and he’s got a free pass? How could Bhutto not have noticed such a character seeing as he lit up right next to her car?
Like a circus.[/quote]
Now they’re saying the spook with the white cowl was “innocent”. I’d say a decoy.
Musharraf’s interview with 60 Minutes will be airing tonight. Now the questions are: Should the people “let” 60 Minutes? lol, and of course how much of CBS these days is owned by Saudi money?
" … Gen. Zia ul-Haq seized power in July 1977. Under his reign, the ISI was expanded by making it responsible for the collection of intelligence about the Sindh based Communist party and monitoring the Shia organization after the Iranian revolution of 1979, as well as monitoring various political parties such as the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP)."
“Joint Intelligence Bureau: JIB is the largest part of the ISI and was perhaps the most powerful component of the ISI in the late 1980s. It’s main area of work is to gather intelligence on political parties. It also has three sub-sections which include operations in India, conducting anti-terrorism operations and providing security to VIPs.”
“�??The ISI probably would not define what they’ve done in the past as �??terrorism,�??�?? says William Milam, former U.S. ambassador to Pakistan.”
[quote]nephorm wrote:
RAWALPINDI, Pakistan (CNN) – Pakistan’s former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was assassinated Thursday outside a large gathering of her supporters where a suicide bomber also killed at least 14, doctors and a spokesman for her party said.
While Bhutto appeared to have died from bullet wounds, it was not immediately clear if she was shot or if her wounds were caused by bomb shrapnel.
President Pervez Musharraf held an emergency meeting in the hours after the death, according to state media.
Mahmud Ali Durrani, Pakistan ambassador to the United States, said Musharraf will be “announcing something” soon, likely to include a declaration of national mourning for Bhutto. He said that when he briefly spoke with Musharraf, the president “condemned these attacks.”
Police warned citizens to stay home as they expected rioting to break out in city streets in reaction to the death.
Rioters burned tires and blocked roads in Karachi and other cities, police sources said. Police fired on an angry mob, killing two people, in the city of Khairpur in the Sindh province, Geo TV reported.
Police sources told CNN the bomber, who was riding a motorcycle, blew himself up near Bhutto’s vehicle. VideoWatch aftermath of the attack. »
Bhutto was rushed to Rawalpindi General Hospital – less than two miles from the bombing scene – where doctors pronounced her dead.
Chaos erupted at the Rawalpindi hospital when former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif arrived there to pay his respects to Bhutto less than three hours after her death.
Hundreds of Bhutto supporters crammed into the entrance shouted and cried, some clutching their heads in pain and shock. Sharif called it “the saddest day” in Pakistan’s history. “Something unthinkable has happened,” he said.
Former Pakistan government spokesman Tariq Azim Khan said while it appeared Bhutto was shot, it was unclear if the bullet wounds to her head and neck were caused by a shooting or if it was shrapnel from the bomb. VideoWatch Benazir Bhutto obituary. »
Bhutto’s husband issued a statement from his home in Dubai saying, “All I can say is we’re devastated, it’s a total shock.”
President Bush, vacationing at his Texas ranch, has been “informed about the situation in Pakistan,” said the White House. “We condemn the acts of violence which took place today in Pakistan,” said a spokesman.
The number of wounded was not immediately known. However, video of the scene showed ambulances lined up to take many to hospitals.
The attack came just hours after four supporters of former Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif died when members of another political party opened fire on them at a rally near the Islamabad airport Thursday, Pakistan police said.
Several other members of Sharif’s party were wounded, police said.
Bhutto, who led Paksitan from 1988 to 1990 and was the first female prime minister of any Islamic nation, was participating in the parliamentary election set for January 8, hoping for a third term.
A terror attack targeting her motorcade in Karachi killed 136 people on the day she returned to Pakistan after eight years of self-imposed exile.View timeline. »
CNN’s Mohsin Naqvi, who was at the scene of both bombings, said Thursday’s blast was not as powerful as that October attack.
Thursday’s attacks come less than two weeks after Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf lifted an emergency declaration he said was necessary to secure his country from terrorists.
Bhutto had been critical of what she believed was a lack of effort by Musharraf’s government to protect her.
Two weeks after the October assassination attempt, she wrote a commentary for CNN.com in which she questioned why Pakistan investigators refused international offers of help in finding the attackers.
“The sham investigation of the October 19 massacre and the attempt by the ruling party to politically capitalize on this catastrophe are discomforting, but do not suggest any direct involvement by General Pervez Musharraf,” Bhutto wrote.[/quote]
… nephorm, so silent in a thread you started? …
I wonder if Musharraf thinks the people who died on 9/11 are to blame for the attacks? Relevant? Connected? Insulting Americans?