I agree UGL is riskier, but I’m not sure if it’s as dramatic as 50-100x riskier. One can send samples out for testing (mg/ml concentration + testing for compound and heavy metal/potentially bacterial contamination). At-home test kits also exist pertaining to what the compound at hand is. Certain grey market manufacturers supposedly have fairly sophisticated labs set up.
I once saw someone come into the gym where I work out with a really bad looking abscess festering on his tricep.
That being said… Trenbolone probably fits into the 50-100x riskier than testosterone bracket… Or 100000x riskier. Nandrolone/c17-AA AAS probably fit into the 5-10x riskier category… I don’t think primobolan per se is 5-10x riskier than testosterone.
Have they stopped manufacturing oxandrin? Is oxandrolone currently manufactured anywhere besides the US? In Aus I think they’ve recently stopped manufacturing generic nandrolone. It was available in ampoules of 50mg/ml.
You’ve used oxandrolone before @anon18050987, do you think the high dosages people use is overkill? Literature seems to indicate oxandrolone is rather potent, yet we constantly see people using 50-100mg/day. If I was to go by literature, 20-25mg/day should be plenty for most.
If this is his nadir from 1x/wk, his peak is fairly close to and/or over 2000ng/dl.
I’ll fill in what I know. Zyzz was an Australian bodybuilder/influencer known for living a lavish, live fast and die young lifestyle.
His appearance was based on the classical concept of aesthetics (think Greek god type of look). He actually looked pretty good. He had a small waist, broad shoulders and a very conditioned/defined midsection.
If I recall correctly he spent much of his time when outside of gym partying, going to festivals and chasing girls. From what I could see within some of his videos, he seemed a little bit full of himself.
Unfortunately it appears he had an undiagnosed congenital heart defect. I believe he left to Thailand after his brother was caught selling anabolic steroids as there was quite the investigation going on at the time (not sure if he was involved and/or implicated).
Now, this was a twenty one year old male bodybuilder on his own in Thailand (I think Pattaya?)… A town full of booze, prostitution and legal steroids. He died while presumably on cycle due to cardiac arrhythmia. Its been said that there were recreational drugs involved alongside the lines of cocaine, MDMA, alcohol etc. Couple that with a heart defect, being in a sauna/hot-tub and it’s arrhythmia city.
You are right to a small degree but kinetics a far more predictable than you think. If he tells us his dose, long he’s been on and what his plasma level is, we can fairly accurately predict what his peak was. The concentration after time “off” tells us how he metabolizes T.
I actually inject once a week, so it would have been 14 days since the last injection. I think my previous test when I didn’t miss an injection, my levels were somewhere around what you graphed. It wasn’t that exactly, but I dont think it was too far off.
For whatever reason my doctor hasn’t updated my panels online in quite some time. The most recent panel she has listed (which is from October of 2019, right before I started the 200mg/week protocol) My SHBG was 21.9. I believe I was on 75 MG/week at the time and my test levels were still low. Im sure everything is higher now in correlation to the dose Im taking. I’ll give my doctor a call and see if I can get the most recent labs(which were from last month).