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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Holy shit two wise people that think exactly alike , what if Walomart is the only emplyer around for 20 miles , I guess you are back to welfare
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You could like, move.

Or start your own business.

Or do the little work required to move up the Walmart food chain.

But, if you insist in living in the badlands, it is not so much that Walamart is forcing oyu to do anything, in fact, they would be the only company willing and able to give you a job.

A simple “thank you” would do.

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:
I like how people talk about most American’s standards of living as if they are some sort of “right”. Damn ridiculous.

If I work 40 hrs/week at Walmart, making, say $5.50 after taxes, that’s $220 per week. This comes to, on average, about $940/month you’re earning. Find a studio apartment for $500/month, let’s say another $100 for utilities. You have $340 left over for the month. You ride a bicycle to work, you own and minimally use a pay-as-you-go cell phone, let’s say that runs up $15 per month. $325 left still. You can eat off about $150 a month, so down to $175. At this point, your living space, utilities, communication, transportation, and food are paid for. Of course there’s toiletries and cleaning supplies and random other little things you need, but you’ve got about $40-45 to spare each week for that stuff.

And this is a bottom-level job, with no education requirements, assuming you are the sole income. Problem is, people in a similar situation think they are entitled to a car, an unlimited phone plan with an iphone of course, all sorts of gadgets they don’t need, all sorts of electronics they don’t need, etc. Oh, and give this theoretical person a roommate to split rent and utilities with, and suddenly you can actually afford a car to get around town, and decent health coverage. If you ask me, the biggest issue we have is people living beyond their means. Civilians, government officials, the programs they run, etc. [/quote]

This is a great post. I’m not in the “abolish the minimum wage” crowd, but I hate it when liberals pretend everybody is entitled to a Prius in the driveway and an 8-dollar mocha-latte-frappucino each morning. I know from direct experience that a living can be made on very little cash. Not a really enjoyable one, but happiness is not a guarantee in this world, is it?

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[quote]smh23 wrote:
Not a really enjoyable one, but happiness is not a guarantee in this world, is it?[/quote]

Nope. Only the pursuit of happiness is guaranteed. You still gotta bust your ass to make it happen for yourself. That’s what a lot of liberals hate to admit…

It’s also important to note that not everyone’s definition of happiness will be the same. The lifestyle that I want, the goals I have, etc that will make me happy and the income required to obtain it will be different than the lifestyle and goals and required income of another person…which will be different than another person. You can’t create utopia. No matter what limits or anything put on a society, there will always be people who will want to bust their ass to achieve more…and there will always be people that will be completely content with living below those lines and/or limits.

Liberals love to say that they celebrate diversity, while ignoring the fact that not everyone desires the same things out of life…and even if they do, they may not have the same drive to work hard enough to obtain it. Why should two people, who want completely different things out of life, be forced to take the exact same? And why should someone willing to bust their ass for more either have to settle for less, or watch someone not as motivated receive the same? It’s always boggled my mind.

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[quote]csulli wrote:
Well I agree with pittbull about pot, but not about unions. Unionization IMO is antiquated and counter-productive these days. There was a time and place for it, but not anymore. If WalMart unionizes now all that will come of it is increased prices due to artificially inflated labor costs.[/quote]

That is ok we are allowed to disagree :slight_smile:

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Holy shit two wise people that think exactly alike , what if Walomart is the only emplyer around for 20 miles , I guess you are back to welfare
[/quote]

You could like, move.

Or start your own business.

Or do the little work required to move up the Walmart food chain.

But, if you insist in living in the badlands, it is not so much that Walamart is forcing oyu to do anything, in fact, they would be the only company willing and able to give you a job.

A simple “thank you” would do. [/quote]

It may be better top just stay home collect welfare and sell drugs :slight_smile: I know you think the labor market is different than other markets . The labor market should have the right like all other markets to organize and get representation in Government .

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@ orion another point I feel you may be missing is that if you can barely support yourself in one location , it is highly unlikely you will save enough to move away

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Holy shit two wise people that think exactly alike , what if Walomart is the only emplyer around for 20 miles , I guess you are back to welfare
[/quote]

You could like, move.

Or start your own business.

Or do the little work required to move up the Walmart food chain.

But, if you insist in living in the badlands, it is not so much that Walamart is forcing oyu to do anything, in fact, they would be the only company willing and able to give you a job.

A simple “thank you” would do. [/quote]

It may be better top just stay home collect welfare and sell drugs :slight_smile: I know you think the labor market is different than other markets . The labor market should have the right like all other markets to organize and get representation in Government .

[/quote]

Are you seriously saying the labor market is not represented in Washington?

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Holy shit two wise people that think exactly alike , what if Walomart is the only emplyer around for 20 miles , I guess you are back to welfare
[/quote]

You could like, move.

Or start your own business.

Or do the little work required to move up the Walmart food chain.

But, if you insist in living in the badlands, it is not so much that Walamart is forcing oyu to do anything, in fact, they would be the only company willing and able to give you a job.

A simple “thank you” would do. [/quote]

It may be better top just stay home collect welfare and sell drugs :slight_smile: I know you think the labor market is different than other markets . The labor market should have the right like all other markets to organize and get representation in Government .

[/quote]

Au contraire, in all other markets forming price cartels is illegal.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
@ orion another point I feel you may be missing is that if you can barely support yourself in one location , it is highly unlikely you will save enough to move away[/quote]

Hitch hike.

Since you wordly possessions fit into a bed sheet, that should not pose a problem either.

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I’m pretty sure my brain just exploded reading this thread. It’s no wonder America is so jacked up.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Holy shit two wise people that think exactly alike , what if Walomart is the only emplyer around for 20 miles , I guess you are back to welfare
[/quote]

You could like, move.

Or start your own business.

Or do the little work required to move up the Walmart food chain.

But, if you insist in living in the badlands, it is not so much that Walamart is forcing oyu to do anything, in fact, they would be the only company willing and able to give you a job.

A simple “thank you” would do. [/quote]

This. It’s people like pitt, thinking the for some reason it is the government’s responsibility to make sure you have a job and money, that perpetuate this entitlement crap.

In a nutshell, “Obama money!!” lol. Not just attacking the POTUS, but that mindset as a whole.

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[quote]cwill1973 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Holy shit two wise people that think exactly alike , what if Walomart is the only emplyer around for 20 miles , I guess you are back to welfare
[/quote]

You could like, move.

Or start your own business.

Or do the little work required to move up the Walmart food chain.

But, if you insist in living in the badlands, it is not so much that Walamart is forcing oyu to do anything, in fact, they would be the only company willing and able to give you a job.

A simple “thank you” would do. [/quote]

It may be better top just stay home collect welfare and sell drugs :slight_smile: I know you think the labor market is different than other markets . The labor market should have the right like all other markets to organize and get representation in Government .

[/quote]

Are you seriously saying the labor market is not represented in Washington?
[/quote]

There are a few labor unions that represent a small prortion of labor in America

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Holy shit two wise people that think exactly alike , what if Walomart is the only emplyer around for 20 miles , I guess you are back to welfare
[/quote]

You could like, move.

Or start your own business.

Or do the little work required to move up the Walmart food chain.

But, if you insist in living in the badlands, it is not so much that Walamart is forcing oyu to do anything, in fact, they would be the only company willing and able to give you a job.

A simple “thank you” would do. [/quote]

This. It’s people like pitt, thinking the for some reason it is the government’s responsibility to make sure you have a job and money, that perpetuate this entitlement crap.

In a nutshell, “Obama money!!” lol. Not just attacking the POTUS, but that mindset as a whole. [/quote]

I am curious , how you deduced me thinking the Government owes me a job from me saying labor needs representation in Washington ? What entitlement am I perpetuating ? I am talking about making work more profitable than welfare ?

It is people like you that id so immersed in the (SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE) dogma that they have lost their ability to be rational about actual problems that exist in America

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am talking about making work more profitable than welfare ?

It is people like you that id so immersed in the (SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE) dogma that they have lost their ability to be rational about actual problems that exist in America
[/quote]

No, not at all. You like to think that people can’t be rational if they see the situation differently than you do because you can’t question your own views.

It is the simple fact that some of us would rather see welfare become less profitable than work, because right now it isn’t.

Same ends as you, different means.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I am talking about making work more profitable than welfare ?

It is people like you that id so immersed in the (SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE) dogma that they have lost their ability to be rational about actual problems that exist in America
[/quote]

No, not at all. You like to think that people can’t be rational if they see the situation differently than you do because you can’t question your own views.

It is the simple fact that some of us would rather see welfare become less profitable than work, because right now it isn’t.

Same ends as you, different means.[/quote]

I think you have to judge some one’s statement ,“”“”““It’s people like pitt, thinking the for some reason it is the government’s responsibility””“”“” This statement is inaccurate and hostile

I personally do not see your way working but I would be game . The so called conservative have been trying since I can remember . I think my way is more feasible to get through congress.

This is another thread but the first thing that would change a job being better than welfare is health care for all . It would be a steep price tag to buy the Insurance that welfare recipients get . That in it,s self may be enough to tip the scale

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I think my way is more feasible to get through congress. [/quote]

But just because something is easier to “get through” doesn’t make it good.

[quote]This is another thread but the first thing that would change a job being better than welfare is health care for all . It would be a steep price tag to buy the Insurance that welfare recipients get . That in it,s self may be enough to tip the scale
[/quote]

Maybe we should address the costs of healthcare rather than just throw more demand at an industry that is just going to raise prices as it is?

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Maybe we should address the costs of healthcare [/quote]

The only way the Republicans can imagine is to open the market across state lines , It won’t work . The Demographics are different in FLA to CA

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

But just because something is easier to “get through” doesn’t make it good.

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I think one reason the Republicans do not want to see serious welfare reform is people like Walmart would have to pay a livable wage , no more subsidizing Walmart’s employment

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Maybe we should address the costs of healthcare [/quote]

The only way the Republicans can imagine is to open the market across state lines , It won’t work . The Demographics are different in FLA to CA
[/quote]

Stop thinking “us v them”.

Jesus H it isn’t like the democrats have any better ideas… Except to take failed republican ones and spread it nationally.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

But just because something is easier to “get through” doesn’t make it good.

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I think one reason the Republicans do not want to see serious welfare reform is people like Walmart would have to pay a livable wage , no more subsidizing Walmart’s employment
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Not only are the republicans the only party to even address welfare reform in any meaningful way, there are more companies that pay low wages than just WalMArt.

And while you are busy trying to invent ways to tarnish conservatives the rest of the world functions on understanding the the issues isn’t fucking party affilation.