Sounds like a pretty good idea. Drs aren’t going to advertise needles, they are not fun. Gels sound like, to those not in the know, a great option.
Come in to the dentist, have a root canal!
Too expensive and not affordable for me from what I’ve seen. I saw a lot of them have a $200-$300 monthly fee. I can’t afford that.
I don’t know how you would find this, but my doctor doesn’t take any insurance. Therefore, he has little outside influence. No insurance companies giving him shit about prescribing for people who are low, but “in range”, etc. I think my visits run about 100-120$.
I don’t know how you would go about finding that though…
Do you have to see him often? What treatment do you get and how much is it? The anti-aging guy I called, even on his site he states he prescribes clomid BUT when I called they wanted to push pellets on me and told me I could use Testosterone injections for $300 each shot, or $650 per each pellet. Also that every time I see him is $160. Now, if I can see a doctor once, maybe even twice at $100, that is doable, but I have a feeling these doctors like to see patients at least every few months.
Visit one: I feel like shit, these allergies are keeping me down. Him: Let’s get you some blood tests for grinsies.
Visit two: You are low T, and here’s all the bad shit that’s going to happen to you if you don’t control it. More blood tests (LH/FSH) to see if I’m secondary. Results arrive, he called in script for clomid.
Visit three: My nipples itch so bad I am going to burn them off with hot pokers. Him: Here is a script for an AI.
That’s it so far. I’m probably going to make an appointment at 3 months (at 2.5 now) just to follow up and get renewals on my scripts.
Those that inject seem to need more follow-ups, but I don’t see the real need for going in more than once every 3 months unless things come up. I imagine he will give me a script to last 6/12 months at my next visit.
I just remembered something. Google “concierge medicine {your city}” and see what you come up with. These are doctors who may take a flat rate per year / visit and they are customer focused (you, not insurance company). They are also more open to “quality of life” issues (low T!!) due to thier customer focus.
Right. The unfortunate thing is, since I’m in college and unemployed and can’t work at the moment due to recent surgery and I have trouble working and going to college due to anxiety; I’m sure the low T has a lot to do with that. I had to move back home and I pay $400 for rent and have to live off of $351 after rent. So, I’m struggling as it is just with food and regular supplements. A yearly rate MAY work though.
Low T has everything to do with anxiety. My anxiety levels are much lower now that my T is under control. Decisions are easier to make and I deal with unknowns much better.
Sounds like a tough situation. If cost is an issue, alldaychemist.com has pretty cheap prices on SERMs and AIs.
Defymedical got back to me. They wouldn’t tell me the price for clomid treatment, just that the average treatment is $75-$100 per month.
Yeah, an exclusive TRT clinic isn’t going to be cheap, but in my business I quote people high to get rid of people who shop only on price (even though my prices are on the lower side). I have found (not saying this is you) a large percentage of people who shop only on price won’t be happy unless it’s free.
Maybe you could go with defy until you get your situation sorted and educated enough to where you can feel comfortable transitioning (and training) a local doc to handle your situation.
The thing is, I know I’m going to have to pay for a serm and ai out of pocket. That’s fine, clomid is only about $30 I read for most places and an ai about $4-$8. The thing is, defymedical is ALMOST affordable, but not in my current situation. If they didn’t have all the tacked on fees, I could do it. The other issue is me having to have another foot surgery and even if I wanted to look for a part-time job and try to goto college also, which I MAY be able to do once my T levels go up since my anxiety will go down; I simply won’t be able to work, or goto college until the beginning of next year and I don’t want to feel like sh** anymore. I’m going to see an endocrinologist and if that doesn’t workout, I’ll see if I can make some money online somehow helping my buddy make 3d models and such for online games. All I’d really need to afford treatment is an extra $100 per month.
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You can mow a few lawns to pick up 100$ a month. Heck, I paid my guy 75$ to mow my lawn (when he would actually show up), probably took him an hour maybe an hour and a half. Or window washing. When I was in college, I blacktopped driveways. Miserable hot being in the middle of a hot parking lot or driveway all day, but the pay was decent. And a job in the college computer user room. Do they even have those anymore? Flipping burgers also sucked, but it put some money in my pocket…
Totally doable.
You will feel sooo much better when you are treated and you will also have much better motivation to get out and hustle for some bucks.
How long does blood work usually take to get back? My primary was nice enough to order blood work for me and she even called me Monday to tell me the results still aren’t in. I did have 6 vials drawn. Something else to take note, I’m not sensitive to cold. It’s just the opposite, I am very sensitive to heat. I even have the AC in my room set to 66 degrees F.
Well after looking at all the fees, Defymedical is too expensive. $300 twice a year for blood work, on top of prescription fees, on top of calling fees, on top of $75-$100 a month treatment. I can’t afford it.
Bloodwork can take up to a week to get back. Usually mine comes back in 3-4 days.
BTW, assuming it’s more or less a full bloodwork set, 300$ is about going rate. My insurance covers the tests even though I pay the doctor out of pocket. Without insurance, the lab charges over 1,000$ for the same tests.
If you have some form of insurance (sounds like you do) the tests may be covered.
You have not posted your labs. There is no such thing as an OTC SERM and AI. These are supplements that hardly work. If you have hormonal issues, they are very unlikely to resolve anything. You seem to have very bad anxiety, you have to control this. This is more than something caused by low T.
Forgetting the OTC part, you do not know your LH/FSH and E2 numbers, the problem may not even be with the pituitary. Low E2 is more than expected with lowish T. Reducing this will cause more harm than good and T levels are unlikely to increase with AI. Be calm and learn, do not rush into something.
Keep looking for a doctor who will help, Insurance problems prevent docs for treating “normal” numbers, even though they are anything but. This will make the task of finding a good doc who is going to willing to help more difficult. Avoid self medication unless you are 100 percent sure what you’re doing is going to be beneficial. Also, using SERMs or AIs may alter with baseline numbers, sometimes lead to higher T numbers transiently but not helping with symptoms. For this purpose, you need to be under care of a doctor who knows your baseline before suggesting a treatment so that if things don’t improve, the doc still knows what the problem is. These higher numbers may not be good for the objective of finding a doctor as you can see how a number as low as yours does not attract any attention from some doctors.
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