Another Police Beating Video

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]KAS wrote:

Don’t be affraid to speak up if you think something isn’t right. And don’t ever lie to save someone elses career. They won’t do the same for you.

[/quote]

Now that’s a gem. Really? Cops not lying for other cops? I must be watching too many movies. And I’d swear the article I just read had the PD defending the officers as using “procedure”. Hmm.[/quote]

Apparently they even feel the need to lie on internet forums about the wall of silence. [/quote]

Yeah, you got me. I’m big liar. Probably not even a cop.

Thank you for your insightfull post.

[quote]KAS wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]KAS wrote:
Don’t let this put you off a career in law enforcement. Some cops are dicks, most aren’t.

[/quote]

I’d beg to differ. When the Department take the position that the officers were “following procedure” in an attempt to defend this blatant assault, ALL cops become dicks. They become the enemy of good people everywhere. If there are indeed but a “few bad apples”, why the hell won’t all the alleged “good apples” cut the bad ones loose instead of defending them and covering up for them?

Anyway, to the OP don’t worry. If you become a LEO in Chicago, at least no one can legally videotape you breaking the law while you kick the shit out of someone. It’s illegal to do that in Illinois. I think they have to get some permission slip from you or authorized release.

Concerned citizen: “Excuse me officer O’Malley, could you take a brief moment from violating that suspect’s rights so that you can sign this authorization form for me to film you in public committing this crime against our citizens?”

Whereupon Officer O’Malley’s fellow “good apples” commence to the kick the shit out of concerned citizen and break his camera. [/quote]

Not true. The offending officer and the boss who supports him become the dicks.

I’ve worked for more than one department and have “dropped the dime” before, as have many. I’m not interested in defending someone elses stupidity at the risk of losing my job.

The reason for the good apples not getting rid of the bad apples is that there are bad apples at top too. You change a culture through new blood. Some PDs have never had a problem. Others have turned things around, while some aren’t going a thing.

People are always saying dumb stuff like “I once knew this cop and he was a big baddy. Therefore every cop from every part of the cuntry is a big baddy too!”

Before I became a LEO I had a few run-ins with some asshole cops. Luckily for me I realised that, like any other job, you get good ones and the bad ones. I’ve been around long enough to know that the bad ones don’t last very long.[/quote]

Well, the problem sir, is that LEO is “not like any other job” - we quite literally empower them with the right to detain and arrest our citizens. I think it’s pathetic that there is this sense that there will be a percentage of “bad apples”. The percentage is far too high. Far too high.

[quote]Scrotus wrote:
What did he do thebodyguard? I’m asking about crooked cop stories in case I’m not being clear.[/quote]

for starters, he apparently had no problem working the door for an illegal poker club. that and the stories of commonplace beatings and looking to rob drug dealers…the normal stuff cops do in big cities.

There are crooked everybodies. The only reason we hear so much about the police is because generally the police deal with violent situations and hey everyone wants to catch some police injustice on camera so they can sue.

The thing about the news is that 50% of the stories are negative, 40% are politics and then 10% for Lucy May saving someones cat. That’s at least what I see when I am watching the news.

I think we’d have a different outlook on the police if the news relayed every story of the police doing their jobs protecting and serving. Furthermore, although the video was a little much, I have no sympathy for people breaking the law. If you weren’t burglarizing someone in the first place you would not have had the shit kicked out of you even though it was uncalled for…

I have hopes of becoming a cop myself.

^I have no sympathy for criminals also. I do have sympathy for a kid who is motionless on the ground after being hit by the police car getting kicked in the face multiple times.

Its very apparent you have that hope.

[quote]KAS wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]KAS wrote:

Don’t be affraid to speak up if you think something isn’t right. And don’t ever lie to save someone elses career. They won’t do the same for you.

[/quote]

Now that’s a gem. Really? Cops not lying for other cops? I must be watching too many movies. And I’d swear the article I just read had the PD defending the officers as using “procedure”. Hmm.[/quote]

Apparently they even feel the need to lie on internet forums about the wall of silence. [/quote]

Yeah, you got me. I’m big liar. Probably not even a cop.

Thank you for your insightfull post.[/quote]

You are denying the existence of something that is fully documented. Either you are being deceptive or are remarkable unobservant.

The first is a trait inherent to cops, the second is not.

I will let others decide.

Glad it’s not like that over here.

The most drama we get is if a cop shows a little bit of arrogance lol

First time I really noticed a dislike for “the law” (apart from TV) was with my Spanish brother-in-law, apparently cops are pretty corrupt in Spain.

He lives in the Dominican Republic now and says that cops will only pull up the “rich” people (i.e. tourists etc…not locals) because it’s an excuse to squeeze out some money. The locals get away with ‘murder’, but a slight fault gets major consequences for the “rich”.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]KAS wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]KAS wrote:
Don’t let this put you off a career in law enforcement. Some cops are dicks, most aren’t.

[/quote]

I’d beg to differ. When the Department take the position that the officers were “following procedure” in an attempt to defend this blatant assault, ALL cops become dicks. They become the enemy of good people everywhere. If there are indeed but a “few bad apples”, why the hell won’t all the alleged “good apples” cut the bad ones loose instead of defending them and covering up for them?

Anyway, to the OP don’t worry. If you become a LEO in Chicago, at least no one can legally videotape you breaking the law while you kick the shit out of someone. It’s illegal to do that in Illinois. I think they have to get some permission slip from you or authorized release.

Concerned citizen: “Excuse me officer O’Malley, could you take a brief moment from violating that suspect’s rights so that you can sign this authorization form for me to film you in public committing this crime against our citizens?”

Whereupon Officer O’Malley’s fellow “good apples” commence to the kick the shit out of concerned citizen and break his camera. [/quote]

Not true. The offending officer and the boss who supports him become the dicks.

I’ve worked for more than one department and have “dropped the dime” before, as have many. I’m not interested in defending someone elses stupidity at the risk of losing my job.

The reason for the good apples not getting rid of the bad apples is that there are bad apples at top too. You change a culture through new blood. Some PDs have never had a problem. Others have turned things around, while some aren’t going a thing.

People are always saying dumb stuff like “I once knew this cop and he was a big baddy. Therefore every cop from every part of the cuntry is a big baddy too!”

Before I became a LEO I had a few run-ins with some asshole cops. Luckily for me I realised that, like any other job, you get good ones and the bad ones. I’ve been around long enough to know that the bad ones don’t last very long.[/quote]

Well, the problem sir, is that LEO is “not like any other job” - we quite literally empower them with the right to detain and arrest our citizens. I think it’s pathetic that there is this sense that there will be a percentage of “bad apples”. The percentage is far too high. Far too high. [/quote]

There is no room for any bad apples. All I’m saying is that in my experience (in law enforcement) there aren’t as many as people make out. Your experience might be different.

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]KAS wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]KAS wrote:

Don’t be affraid to speak up if you think something isn’t right. And don’t ever lie to save someone elses career. They won’t do the same for you.

[/quote]

Now that’s a gem. Really? Cops not lying for other cops? I must be watching too many movies. And I’d swear the article I just read had the PD defending the officers as using “procedure”. Hmm.[/quote]

Apparently they even feel the need to lie on internet forums about the wall of silence. [/quote]

Yeah, you got me. I’m big liar. Probably not even a cop.

Thank you for your insightfull post.[/quote]

You are denying the existence of something that is fully documented. Either you are being deceptive or are remarkable unobservant.

The first is a trait inherent to cops, the second is not.

I will let others decide.[/quote]

Please show me where I denied the existence of poor policing.

[quote]KAS wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]KAS wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]KAS wrote:

Don’t be affraid to speak up if you think something isn’t right. And don’t ever lie to save someone elses career. They won’t do the same for you.

[/quote]

Now that’s a gem. Really? Cops not lying for other cops? I must be watching too many movies. And I’d swear the article I just read had the PD defending the officers as using “procedure”. Hmm.[/quote]

Apparently they even feel the need to lie on internet forums about the wall of silence. [/quote]

Yeah, you got me. I’m big liar. Probably not even a cop.

Thank you for your insightfull post.[/quote]

You are denying the existence of something that is fully documented. Either you are being deceptive or are remarkable unobservant.

The first is a trait inherent to cops, the second is not.

I will let others decide.[/quote]

Please show me where I denied the existence of poor policing. [/quote]

Read your own post where you claim police don’t cover for each other.