[quote]Professor X wrote:
Smoking cigarettes is just like heroine abuse.
No, really.[/quote]
You mean punching Wonder Woman in the jaw?
[quote]Puny@138 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Smoking cigarettes is just like heroine abuse.
No, really.
You mean punching Wonder Woman in the jaw?[/quote]
Yes, she hates that.
Then again, with you as the new Grammar Hero, the world can sleep peacefully at night without ever calling her into action…thus eliminating the possibility for “heroine abuse”.
Bastard.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I tell you what, this fuckin guy doesn’t get it.
I’ve known a couple heroin addicts, and no smoker has any idea what it’s like to go through withdrawl until they watch someone try to kick that shit.
But fuck’em, let’em think what he wants. Hey buddy, just like some of us are intelligent and addicted to things, there’s people like you that are idiots and not addicted. Good for you and your willpower, you’re still ignorant.[/quote]
Right on, brother.
Anyone who uses “willpower” in their arguments against addiction, knows absolutely nothing about the subject.
What about the people that chose not to take drugs because they are bad for you? why ever take a know addictive substance that has been shown to kill at times? that has been shown to be hard to kick?
It might be willpower or not, but it definitely shows a lack of common sense to start. We knew heroin was really bad when I was a kid. so I never did it along with coke, weed, pills, lsd and so on.
She was still a dumb drugged up stripper and I think it’s silly to have so much attention focused on her. I swear there is more media attention here than when Mother Theresa died.
Let’s see, possible saint that devoted her life to helping the less fortunate compared to fake tit gold digging drug addicted skank.
Mother Teresa would have been the FIRST in line to embrace a tortured, unhappy Soul like Anna…
I’m with Chinadoll on this one…another sad, short Life looking for the Love and Acceptance that we all desire…
Mufasa
[quote]RJ24 wrote:
I don’t claim to be perfect, but I do claim to be better than to fuck up the lives of my family with a substance abuse problem.
Every such vice (addiction to smoking, alcohol, narcotics) is just a weakness that should not be tolerated, let alone pittied. People need to step the fuck up and take responsibility for their actions.
And sorry for the language, but this is a topic I feel strongly about.[/quote]
Wow! It must be such a pleasure to live with you. Such strength and discipline and power.
Having said that, I would not want one of your friends that falter in such close proximity to you.
“Boom! You’re gone fucker or bitch! No tolerance for you!!!”
The unfortunate part about celebrities like Anna Nicole Smith, Marilyn Monroe and others is that they died before their time at a young age, and it seemed that they were poorly able to cope with such a sudden rise to such a high level of fame…and the fame ate them alive and hence their early fate.
And not to instigate anything, but it would seem that someone like Mother Theresa’s passing isn’t seen as tragic because she lived a very long, full, rewarding life and was able to pass away in peace, having done all the things she wanted to do for many decades of her life.
Anna Nicole died at such a young age, not having been able to live all the stages of her life, and left behind a small child. And too bad that her 20-year-old son had to die as a result of substance abuse.
Just to add to what China said…
Mother Teresa was most likely happy, fulfilled at AT PEACE with her God and herself…
Anna (and Marilyn and millions before and after) were most likely trying to find meaning until the end.
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Mother Teresa would have been the FIRST in line to embrace a tortured, unhappy Soul like Anna…
I’m with Chinadoll on this one…another sad, short Life looking for the Love and Acceptance that we all desire…
Mufasa[/quote]
I agree with Mufasa’s view about Anna Nicole.
To begin with she had poor life coping skills. Then the fame and all that came with it- everyone wanting a piece of her, the media showing the worst of the worst about her, etc… Then the passing of her son I believe was the final straw.
Her son was the one person who was at her side since she was 17-years-old, he died while sitting right next to her and she tried to resuscitate him…that must’ve been the worst. Any parent here can attest that if something happened to their own child it would be extremely difficult to want to go on. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Just to add to what China said…
Mother Teresa was most likely happy, fulfilled at AT PEACE with her God and herself…
Anna (and Marilyn and millions before and after) were most likely trying to find meaning until the end.
Mufasa[/quote]
You said it so well, Mufasa…
I wouldn’t be mad at RJ for this point of view. Different people have different mental tools they use to build their own inner strength; different things work for different people.
Some people use meditation, prayer and other quieter types of tools, while others use stronger types of mantras, such as RJ does. If this kind of view works at keeping one more person off of substances, then it’s not necessarily a bad thing.
[quote]chinadoll wrote:
To begin with she had poor life coping skills. Then the fame and all that came with it- everyone wanting a piece of her, the media showing the worst of the worst about her, etc… Then the passing of her son I believe was the final straw.
Her son was the one person who was at her side since she was 17-years-old, he died while sitting right next to her and she tried to resuscitate him…that must’ve been the worst. Any parent here can attest that if something happened to their own child it would be extremely difficult to want to go on. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
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To have those things happen to her must have been an incredible mind-fuck! As a father, I don’t know how I would react if something happened to my son. I can’t imagine the pain.
But to have people judge her based on what the media has allowed us to see just seems very cold.
[quote]chinadoll wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
Mother Teresa would have been the FIRST in line to embrace a tortured, unhappy Soul like Anna…
I’m with Chinadoll on this one…another sad, short Life looking for the Love and Acceptance that we all desire…
Mufasa
I agree with Mufasa’s view about Anna Nicole.
To begin with she had poor life coping skills. Then the fame and all that came with it- everyone wanting a piece of her, the media showing the worst of the worst about her, etc… Then the passing of her son I believe was the final straw.
Her son was the one person who was at her side since she was 17-years-old, he died while sitting right next to her and she tried to resuscitate him…that must’ve been the worst. Any parent here can attest that if something happened to their own child it would be extremely difficult to want to go on. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
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I really hadn’t ever considered her a modern “Marilyn Monroe” until some have been recently pointing that out. I suppose I can see similarities, however, time has washed away indecencies and negative words about Monroe. Also, Monroe was a “movie star” to some degree (it can be argued whether she was any good at it)…and not simply “a stripper” who slept with a rich dying guy. That adds elegance to Monroe’s life that won’t be seen in this case.
Monroe’s picture was tagged in the lockers of soldiers. She was a true pin up girl. Is Anna Nicole Smith on the same level?
I understand why you feel the way you do. I think it is tragic that someone died after living a life that seemed cut short. I don’t think that people will heighten her image to that of Marilyn Monroe’s, however.
[quote]thighlord wrote:
But to have people judge her based on what the media has allowed us to see just seems very cold.[/quote]
People do it all of the time and no on says a word. Everyone here probably has a very firm image of Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown in their head. they ALSO had their own reality show. Would you claim you withhold all judgement of what you see in the media when that media lets us in on so much of their lives?
A reality show where the camera follows you around all day for many days and then splices your life together for entertainment sort of takes this out of just “the medias” hands and puts it largely right back in the hands of the celebrity. So…with that in mind, didn’t she show what she wanted us to see?
I wonder if Howard K Stern had anything to do with the death. I wonder if there wasn’t some sort of foul play involved in her death.
I thought I heard on the radio there may have been some investigation into Howard Stern having something to do with the death of her son a while back. Something aboiut Stern giving her son some of the drugs thart killed him or something.
It seems the autopsy revealed she did not have any drugs in her stomach, and there was no sign of trauma to cause the death. So they will have to do some further tests to find out what killed her.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Monroe’s picture was tagged in the lockers of soldiers. She was a true pin up girl. Is Anna Nicole Smith on the same level?[/quote]
I don’t know, but I suspect she was the object of lust for a lot of young men during her younger years…
Wasn’t Marlyin suspected of having an affair with JFK or something? Isn’t that scandalous enough for her to be morally suspect too?
Whoa… what a skanky drug whore… check out this stuff!
http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/celebrity/marilyn_monroe/6.html
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In the ensuing year and a half, she was in and out of psychiatric clinics seeking treatment for her diagnosis of borderline personality disorder. Marilyn was also being treated for her severe addiction to barbiturates and alcohol, which she used as a vehicle to escape the severe emotional pain she suffered and to help her with her insomnia. During that time, she began to develop a professional relationship with a new psychiatrist named Dr. Ralph Greenson. It would prove to be a rather unusual relationship built on dependency and uncommon medical practices.
That same year Marilyn became involved in a highly publicized, but short-lived affair with Frank Sinatra. She also befriended several high-profile personalities during that time, including Peter Lawford, his wife Pat Kennedy, and Pat Newcomb, who became her best friend. The entire group would often spend time together, frequently attending gatherings or large parties at the Lawford and Kennedy homes. The guests were the who’s who of Hollywood and at times high government officials would attend, including Robert Kennedy and his brother, then President John Kennedy. According to Tim Coates’ Marilyn Monroe: The F.B.I Files, it was during these parties that Marilyn and the Kennedy brothers became acquainted during the beginning months of 1962.
According to friends of Marilyn, a relationship developed between Marilyn and the two Kennedy brothers. She was believed to have had separate affairs with the two men simultaneously. Her relationships with Robert and John, unknown to the public, became the talk of Hollywood. Marilyn was often seen dancing or in intimate conversation at private parties with Bobby or John. According to her closest friends, her heart belonged to the elder brother, John.
At the same time the FBI began to obtain information on Marilyn, which was assimilated into an ever-growing file on her activities. There was also rumor that criminal organizations, such as the Mafia took an interest in Marilyn, especially in her affairs with the Kennedy brothers. Marilyn didn’t realize just how deeply involved she was in a very dangerous game with dangerous people.
In 1962, Marilyn moved into a new home, a Mexican style bungalow in Brentwood, California. She purposely moved to be close to the Lawford home and her psychiatrist, Greenson, whom she saw on a daily basis. Marilyn’s depression and anxieties began to worsen, despite the therapy. On several occasions she accidentally overdosed on sleeping pills and had to be revived. In fact, her stomach had been pumped for drugs frequently over the last few years.
Marilyn became extremely dependent on Dr. Greenson and would continuously consult with him on her increasingly complicated and troublesome life. Taking care of Marilyn became a full-time job for her psychiatrist and he employed a live in companion for Marilyn named Eunice Murray.
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It’s a sordid tale which goes on and on, but it’s interesting. Go read it if you are curious.
[quote]vroom wrote:
It’s a sordid tale which goes on and on, but it’s interesting. Go read it if you are curious.[/quote]
I’m actually not new to info on her. That is why I wrote that TIME has helped erase many of the negative words about her. Many people thought she was crazy and a slut at the time. Now? Many people barely know her outside of that famous picture where her dress blows up and for singing “Happy Birthday” for a president.
Will Anna Nicole Smith be able to do the same with SO MUCH media footage in the vault showing her at her fattest eating Doritoes and (childishly) playing with dildoes with her gay wardrobe designer? (yes, I did actually watch her show once).
People can forget the dark sides of Monroe because everything is only written…and who reads anymore?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
thighlord wrote:
But to have people judge her based on what the media has allowed us to see just seems very cold.
People do it all of the time and no on says a word. [/quote]
And it will never stop.
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Would you claim you withhold all judgement of what you see in the media when that media lets us in on so much of their lives?[/quote]
Of course not. But I do realize that I don’t know everything about them so why bother?
And I do agree with what you’re saying. I believe that some celebrities would do anything for the attention.
It doesn’t matter which celebrity it is but the media would rather show you someone who’s slurring their words than a mother who may be having a nice quiet dinner with her son. There would be nothing exciting in a story like that.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
vroom wrote:
It’s a sordid tale which goes on and on, but it’s interesting. Go read it if you are curious.
I’m actually not new to info on her. That is why I wrote that TIME has helped erase many of the negative words about her. Many people thought she was crazy and a slut at the time. Now? Many people barely know her outside of that famous picture where her dress blows up and for singing “Happy Birthday” for a president.
Will Anna Nicole Smith be able to do the same with SO MUCH media footage in the vault showing her at her fattest eating Doritoes and (childishly) playing with dildoes with her gay wardrobe designer? (yes, I did actually watch her show once).
People can forget the dark sides of Monroe because everything is only written…and who reads anymore?
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I’d agree. It’s a different era. The trainwreck that was Anna Nicole Smith was so thoroughly depicted for all to see. The same can’t be said about Marilyn Monroe. But I think that’s more of a function of the times we live in than anything else. I don’t know that Monroe was any more dignified. Still, Anna won’t be remembered the same way. I’d also agree with everything that Mufasa and ChinaDoll said. They put it well.
[quote]deanosumo wrote:
Anna Nicole Smith was a ‘tard, and marginally a ho’, but she was still a human being. I am not happy that she is dead.
And one thing about Anna Nicole, she certainly wasn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, but I can’t recall her doing evil things, or doing harm to anyone, except for herself. She’s not on the same scale as, say, a Paris Hilton.
There’s someone I detest. Now I wouldn’t wish Paris dead, but I certainly hope she never breeds.[/quote]
I think she was a horrible human being. Going through a sham marriage to a 90 year old for money is shameful.
I consider he lower than Paris Hilton for that.