Day 4:
Off day at the gym, took the stak 30 minutes before eating as recommended.
slept fine last night and feel perfectly normal so far today.
Almost six in the evening now. the day was very normal. no grumpiness, must have been the lack of sleep. i do feel less sore than usual at this point though. Still tight but definately less sore.
Day 5 and 6:
well, i didn’t get online yesterday. i took the stak, did some cardio, ran a little further than usual but i don’t think the stak was giving me energy, it was just one of those days where the weather was perfect, i was in the mood to run and i just didn’t really get tired.
Day 6:
day six has been a very interesting day indeed!! I weigh myself every monday morning (today) and have gained ten lbs while maintaining the same body fat percentage as last week! that is pretty wild.
i weighed myself twice to be sure and got the same results. i’m headed to the gym shortly and will check their scale too to make sure i don’t have dying batteries or something.
if this is true, the stak is to be credited for sure as it is the only variable i have changed.
there must be some mistake though, ten lbs in a week is pretty incredible and on par with real steroids i think.
edit:
the gym scale confirmed mine. 10 lb lean mass gain in a week.
NO steroid will put 10lbs of pure muscle on you in a week.
[quote]Dave_ wrote:
NO steroid will put 10lbs of pure muscle on you in a week.[/quote]
i didn’t think so, but some how i’ve gained ten lbs with out increasing body fat.
pretty weird.
Texas guy, is this animal stak, or animal stak 2 you have?
i know the post was tittled “animal stak 2”
but ???
and where did you get it ??
[quote]CraigxXx wrote:
Texas guy, is this animal stak, or animal stak 2 you have?
i know the post was tittled “animal stak 2”
but ???
and where did you get it ?? [/quote]
animal stak 2 and off a web page.
i’d love to find animal stak the original. but, if i’m going to risk jail time i may as well go with steroids.
the weight gain may be water, but i don’t see how. i can’t really explain ten lbs in a week either.
the only difference was the use of stak 2. my diet stayed the same, exercise routine did not change, i don’t measure exactly how much water i drink every day but i doubt there was a big variation in that.
pretty weird. i’ve only gained marginally in strength over the week. not enough to definatively say it was the supplement and certainly not enough to show a ten lb lean mass gain.
day 7:
increased by two reps on the new bp weight.
my legs felt stronger on squats too, but my back wasn’t there, no increase.
i think i like this stuff. i do feel like it is helping, though discreetly.
i cheated and weighed myself again early to test the ten lb increase, and it is still there. it is a mysterious but real gain.
i’m definately going to take the recommended week off when this cycle is done and take the stak again to see what happens.
i still have two weeks on this one to go though!
i do seem to have a pretty bad attitude and get aggravated quickly for the first few hours of the morning, most notably right after the gym, but for the rest of the day i feel no different. (i take stak 2 when i wake up at 5:40)
for you to be so meticulous in your lifting and diet everyday of everyweek as you say you are, well you must not be. How the hell can 10 lbs come out of no where? Is your intestines messed up and you aren’t shitting out what you are eating? Not even animal stak original would put on 10lbs. in only a week or two? Not even D-bol, maybe 7 at most with that, but 10? Your either full of shit or you just haven’t weighed yourself in a long time. Doesn’t make logical sense man.
sorry, not trying to be an asshole, but stak 2 cannot make you gain 10lbs. in 2 weeks. Bottom line i dont’ believe it!!!
[quote]ragingbassist wrote:
for you to be so meticulous in your lifting and diet everyday of everyweek as you say you are, well you must not be. How the hell can 10 lbs come out of no where? Is your intestines messed up and you aren’t shitting out what you are eating? Not even animal stak original would put on 10lbs. in only a week or two? Not even D-bol, maybe 7 at most with that, but 10? Your either full of shit or you just haven’t weighed yourself in a long time. Doesn’t make logical sense man.
sorry, not trying to be an asshole, but stak 2 cannot make you gain 10lbs. in 2 weeks. Bottom line i dont’ believe it!!![/quote]
that is fine. i don’t know how it happened. the stak is the only thing that changed so i assumed that was it.
my body fat percentage stayed the same, my weight went up ten lbs.
the only other option is water, which i havn’t measured. i went to a wedding saturday night and had lots of beer, but as far as i know that just dehydrates you.
Day 8:
No real gains to speak of. a few more reps here and there on curls, incline bp and closer to a new one on squats. i’m sticking about half way up which sucks because as soon as i get it, i’ll be able to increase the weight.
i weighed myself again to be sure, and i’m down 4 lbs from yesterday and the ten lb jump.
i guess it was just water, but i’m not sure how i would have gained ten lbs.
on mothers day, sunday before weighing myself on monday morning, i had baked red snapper along with a salad, baked potato and unsweetened ice tea.
the breaded crust it was baked in was much saltier than what i usually eat, so maybe i was retaining more water than usual, but ten lbs is still alot any way you look at it and has me curious as much as ya’ll are doubtful. the saturday before had been a wedding beer fest too, maybe beer makes you retain water? i always thought the opposite.
no more beer, and no drastic changes in salt levels for the rest of the expiriment.
i’ll weigh myself tomorrow too to see if i stick again or drop more.
i would imagine muscle made up part of the gain, assumedly water after the dramatic drop as well, and who knows, maybe i am constipated as was asked above.
day 9:
i did weigh myself again and dropped another three pounds. i’m about two above where i was before the 10 lb gain. I did drop a percentage point in body fat too, probably from stacking the Stak and HOT-ROX.
i did cardio today, no weights.
cool cool, congrats… sounds like in the last week you have had some gains and in body fat some loses which is what everyone wants. people may think, ah its only 2 more reps a set and only increased 5lb’s on bench and some on dead lift. and you said something about increasing reps on squat to. people don’t understand THESE ARE HUGE INCREASES especially in 9 days!!! give it a month and everything multiplies…
thanks to you and not some bull shit body builder giving only positive feedback which can be lies to sell the product i am now confident of the stak. I received the information i needed thanks to you, i’m going to purchase it my next paycheck! 
keep me updated still though… thanks Texasguy
OH! and about the 10 lb gain, man who cares. i fletchuate (think thats how its spelled) 5-15 lbs a day.
what i ate, how much water i drank, what i didn’t etc. etc. when i weigh myself i always keep in mind "since i’m 200 lbs i think to myself so im roughly between 190-210. like if you asked me today how much i weigh i would say 193, you asked me tomorrow i would say 205. because tomorrow i work out and i drink like 12 water bottles. today i only had 4 and now on my 4th small meal making me not weigh as much.
shouldn’t take a 10lb gain into consideration.
[quote]CraigxXx wrote:
OH! and about the 10 lb gain, man who cares. i fletchuate (think thats how its spelled) 5-15 lbs a day.
what i ate, how much water i drank, what i didn’t etc. etc. when i weigh myself i always keep in mind "since i’m 200 lbs i think to myself so im roughly between 190-210. like if you asked me today how much i weigh i would say 193, you asked me tomorrow i would say 205. because tomorrow i work out and i drink like 12 water bottles. today i only had 4 and now on my 4th small meal making me not weigh as much.
shouldn’t take a 10lb gain into consideration. [/quote]
yeah, i fluctuate too, but never really that much any more. typically from one monday to the next i’ll have a five lb difference if any.
i havn’t had a ten lb difference since cutting weight for high school wrestling years ago.
i think it may have been a combination of the beer and the saltier than usual mothers day food both on consecutive days and right before i weighed myself.
i was pretty excited though, but you are right, the gains i have experienced are good for 9 days.
increasing reps is a pretty big deal. i’m hoping to squeeze them out tomorrow and then be able to increase the weight on monday.(saturday is cardio and sunday is an off day) that would be two increases in weight on the bp in approximately a week and one on squats. i should note my db curl is up and so are the db shoulder presses as of yesterday.
i did drop one percentage of body fat, it usually took a few weeks to do that, a smidgen less with HOT-ROX and now 9 days with HOT-ROX and assumedly elevated testosterone levels from animal stak.
i’m pretty happy, and i’d guess i’m just now starting to get the effects of the hormone changes. i still have roughly two weeks to go on this cycle, then i’ll take a week off and start again as recommended.
to recap after 9 days:
I have increased weight on my bench press sessions once, and have already increased reps with the new weight as well, close enough that friday may be another weight increase for a total of two in ten days. last time i went up five lbs to give me three failures on my last set. not huge, but significant for the amount of time for me at least.
sqauts i have improved in the number of reps at my set weight. i hope to increase weight here too.
curls have increased.
db shoulder press has increased
and i have lost a percentage of body fat.
incline bb bench press has increased ten lbs. i think the combination of shoulder and bp increases pushed that for me.
i can’t explain the weight fluctuation, but i like this stuff.
i do make sure to eat well though. big breakfasts before the gym, pwo shakes, and a total of 5 small meals with all my macro nutrients broken down in to them.
i also take a multi vitamin, half in the morning, half in the afternoon and drink a tsp of apple cider vinegar in the mornings as well.
just curious as to why you drink the apple cider vinegar? Does it do something for you nutrionally? I’ve never heard of this.
Thanks!
-seth
k i have a question, why would you take HOT-ROX (a cutting supplement, if im correct) while trying to gain muscle ???
i’m on the cutting stage right now and i take a fat burner, amino acids and multi vitamins, I eat all the proper foods at the right times. This is what your supposed to do when your cutting, but what im trying to say is. Why are you trying to build muscle and take cutting supplements at the same time?
[quote]CraigxXx wrote:
k i have a question, why would you take HOT-ROX (a cutting supplement, if im correct) while trying to gain muscle ???[/quote]
Many people use Hot-Rox while eating to gain muscle to minimize fat gain.
[quote]ragingbassist wrote:
just curious as to why you drink the apple cider vinegar? Does it do something for you nutrionally? I’ve never heard of this.
Thanks!
-seth[/quote]
i was sick with a cold that i couldn’t kick and apple cider vinegar was recommended to me by an old man as a curea all. i decided to give it a try and after using it for a few days i felt great.
naturally i researched (googled) apple cider vinegar and found it to have many benefits so i take it regularly now.
as far as i know it doesn’t do anything for body building directly, but as a side note i did read that potassium helps with creatine absorption and apple cider vinegar is high in potassium.
it tastes like shit, but you get used to it.
[quote]CraigxXx wrote:
k i have a question, why would you take HOT-ROX (a cutting supplement, if im correct) while trying to gain muscle ???
i’m on the cutting stage right now and i take a fat burner, amino acids and multi vitamins, I eat all the proper foods at the right times. This is what your supposed to do when your cutting, but what im trying to say is. Why are you trying to build muscle and take cutting supplements at the same time?[/quote]
well i figured that with what HOT-ROX promises it would work. if HOT-ROX activates the hormones that cause the body to burn fat as energy before other sources (my understanding) then i should be able to use it to activate fat burning hormones for energy while i build muscle with weights, my diet and the Stak.
i believe HOT-ROX is marketed primarily as a cutting supplement because people on a cut would be the obvious target market for a fat loss supp.
but if it does what is says it does, it should work across the board to cut fat even if building muscle.
i’ve mentioned in other threads that i have been using HOT-ROX for a little while and for me it doesn’t seem to have drastic weight loss effects. i mostly use it for the energy myself, but that is just me.
Overdue Update:
Sorry i’ve been slacking the last few days. i’m in houston right now visiting the parents before summer school starts.
i got a week gym pass and will be there tomorrow.
friday and today (monday) i did variations of push ups, used my old chin up bar (still in the door frame :)) and have burpees and high rep body weight squats in the absence of weights. the leg work out felt admittadly weak. i was definately tired cardiovascularly before i was strength wise.
the push ups and chin ups were great though.
i think i’ll start using a day here and there to substitute this kind of work for weights. i’ll keep my regular cardio the same.
i won’t have a real measure of the stak until tomorrow when i hit a gym again.