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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Sure wish Obama would pay his fair share like all the other 1%ers

"President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama paid an effective tax rate of just 18.4% in 2012 federal income tax.
The figures, released by the White House, come as Obama included in his recently released budget the so-called ?Buffett Rule,? which would slap a 30% minimum tax on anyone earning $1 million.

The Obamas paid $112,214 in federal taxes and $29,450 in Illinois state income tax on an adjusted gross income of $608,611–$274,000 of which came from the president?s book royalties. The Obamas? gross adjusted income fell significantly from 2011, when it was $789,674 and even further from the $5.6 million in 2009.

During the 2012 presidential campaign, Obama attacked Republican rival Mitt Romney for having paid an effective tax rate of 15%. Romney paid a lower tax rate because the bulk of his income was derived from investments.

The Obamas? tax filings also reveal that the first couple donated 24.6% to charity, a sum still under the 29.4% the Romneys donated in 2011. Vice President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill Biden increased their charitable giving last year from 1.5% in 2011 to 1.87% in 2012."

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So Obama paid 18.4% on $600k, versus Romney paying 15% on $20 million (according to Obama) ?

Jesus Christ.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
This is absolutely exquisite:

GOP lawmakers introduce bill to help Obama, Buffett voluntarily pay more taxes

Read more: GOP lawmakers introduce bill to help Obama, Buffett voluntarily pay more taxes | The Daily Caller
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“White House press secretary Jay Carney recently made it clear the president wishes he paid more in taxes, and Buffett has also advocated for tax hikes on the rich.”

All they have to do is not take any deductions and they’d pay more in taxes…wow that was tough to solve.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Sure wish Obama would pay his fair share like all the other 1%ers

"President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama paid an effective tax rate of just 18.4% in 2012 federal income tax.
The figures, released by the White House, come as Obama included in his recently released budget the so-called ?Buffett Rule,? which would slap a 30% minimum tax on anyone earning $1 million.

The Obamas paid $112,214 in federal taxes and $29,450 in Illinois state income tax on an adjusted gross income of $608,611–$274,000 of which came from the president?s book royalties. The Obamas? gross adjusted income fell significantly from 2011, when it was $789,674 and even further from the $5.6 million in 2009.

During the 2012 presidential campaign, Obama attacked Republican rival Mitt Romney for having paid an effective tax rate of 15%. Romney paid a lower tax rate because the bulk of his income was derived from investments.

The Obamas? tax filings also reveal that the first couple donated 24.6% to charity, a sum still under the 29.4% the Romneys donated in 2011. Vice President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill Biden increased their charitable giving last year from 1.5% in 2011 to 1.87% in 2012."

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So Obama paid 18.4% on $600k, versus Romney paying 15% on $20 million (according to Obama) ?

Jesus Christ. [/quote]

And Romeny gave more to charity than Obama and Biden combined (around 85% sure). That’s not the point though. The point is my effective tax rate was higher and I made about 500k less than Mr. President.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
This is absolutely exquisite:

GOP lawmakers introduce bill to help Obama, Buffett voluntarily pay more taxes

Read more: GOP lawmakers introduce bill to help Obama, Buffett voluntarily pay more taxes | The Daily Caller
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“White House press secretary Jay Carney recently made it clear the president wishes he paid more in taxes, and Buffett has also advocated for tax hikes on the rich.”

All they have to do is not take any deductions and they’d pay more in taxes…wow that was tough to solve. [/quote]

People can also wrote a check to the Treasury, both their state and the Federal, funny how Libs beating their chest for more taxes from the rich won’t do that.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
This is absolutely exquisite:

GOP lawmakers introduce bill to help Obama, Buffett voluntarily pay more taxes

Read more: GOP lawmakers introduce bill to help Obama, Buffett voluntarily pay more taxes | The Daily Caller
[/quote]

“White House press secretary Jay Carney recently made it clear the president wishes he paid more in taxes, and Buffett has also advocated for tax hikes on the rich.”

All they have to do is not take any deductions and they’d pay more in taxes…wow that was tough to solve. [/quote]

People can also wrote a check to the Treasury, both their state and the Federal, funny how Libs beating their chest for more taxes from the rich won’t do that.
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It is not about Charity. It is about putting a gun to their head and forcing them to pay. It is a power grab.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
This is absolutely exquisite:

GOP lawmakers introduce bill to help Obama, Buffett voluntarily pay more taxes

Read more: GOP lawmakers introduce bill to help Obama, Buffett voluntarily pay more taxes | The Daily Caller
[/quote]

“White House press secretary Jay Carney recently made it clear the president wishes he paid more in taxes, and Buffett has also advocated for tax hikes on the rich.”

All they have to do is not take any deductions and they’d pay more in taxes…wow that was tough to solve. [/quote]

People can also wrote a check to the Treasury, both their state and the Federal, funny how Libs beating their chest for more taxes from the rich won’t do that.
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It is not about Charity. It is about putting a gun to their head and forcing them to pay. It is a power grab.[/quote]

I agree, but worse than that, it’s a smear campaign and a lie. But when you put the gun to the head of Libs to pay taxes, it’s racism and xenophobia.

In a moment of national tragedy, a Univision USA host is worried it will hold up the amnesty push.

Just…wow.

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

In a moment of national tragedy, a Univision USA host is worried it will hold up the amnesty push.

Just…wow.[/quote]

There is an article on the Huffington Post, about how many Mexican athletes were injured. Talk about racist.

Missed this one yesterday

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Horror at California Home Depot as man cuts own arms with saws

Read more: Horror at California Home Depot as man cuts own arms with saws | Fox News

“He walked into the saw area, picked up a couple of saws in the saw area and started cutting both of his arms.”

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2nd amendment case. He saw that he had a right to bear arms.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Sure wish Obama would pay his fair share like all the other 1%ers

"President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama paid an effective tax rate of just 18.4% in 2012 federal income tax.
The figures, released by the White House, come as Obama included in his recently released budget the so-called ?Buffett Rule,? which would slap a 30% minimum tax on anyone earning $1 million.

The Obamas paid $112,214 in federal taxes and $29,450 in Illinois state income tax on an adjusted gross income of $608,611–$274,000 of which came from the president?s book royalties. The Obamas? gross adjusted income fell significantly from 2011, when it was $789,674 and even further from the $5.6 million in 2009.

During the 2012 presidential campaign, Obama attacked Republican rival Mitt Romney for having paid an effective tax rate of 15%. Romney paid a lower tax rate because the bulk of his income was derived from investments.

The Obamas? tax filings also reveal that the first couple donated 24.6% to charity, a sum still under the 29.4% the Romneys donated in 2011. Vice President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill Biden increased their charitable giving last year from 1.5% in 2011 to 1.87% in 2012."

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I admittedly don’t know much about the US tax system but I was taught to always ask questions so let’s examine the case here. The President’s main source of income is from his book royalties. Are these types of income streams taxed differently (less) than income from wages and salary? If not, look at his deductions. Were they all mandatory? Likely. Why would anyone exclude legally eligible deductions - it doesn’t make sense whatever your economic goal.

Another question: Why is he only giving 25% to charity and why is Romney giving more? The decreasing marginal utility of money of course. Logically, Obama is saving more money for eventual retirement that is quickly approaching. We’ve already established his main source of revenue comes from book royalties. That income stream will dry up eventually unless he writes more books. Now, there’s no doubt he will have other income opportunities either in the public or private sector but he’s looking at his current financial situation in gauging his financial plans.

On to Romney – he’s loaded. He has substantial asset holdings from which he derives income that is taxed at a lower effective rate – we know that. What it means is that he doesn’t really need to save as much relative to Obama. His savings comes from income reinvestments and god knows how many other investment vehicles. Plus, he has large income potential from serving as a director on company boards, if he isn’t already. Overall, he can capitalise on his prominence in the business community. So if he doesn’t need to save as much he is able to donate more to charity.

A secondary and affiliated point is that we have to be mindful of the time period this information is disclosed and debate engaged. We’re relying on information disclosed amidst a political contest and at the end of it. Both guys’ returns are likely window-dressed and more importantly, they only show us the tax liabilities of the most recent tax periods – we have no historical benchmarks. Sure, we could look back 4-5 years but we’d still be looking at information that may not be representative of both politicians’ previous tax records.

EDIT: You can say Obama was hypocritical for attacking Mitt Romney for only paying 15% in taxes but don’t forget it was during a goddamn political contest. Politics is politics, it’s grimy and about spinning issues. Obama is a brilliant politician - on that Bill Clinton level, him targeting Romney on his taxes and the infamous 47% was an effective strategy that worked.

Some folks need to not be in such a hurry.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Some folks need to not be in such a hurry.

What a blast!!!

Nancy Pelosi has been voted best known but least liked of Congressional Leaders…

The top Republican and Democratic leaders in the U.S. House and Senate are a generally unpopular foursome, with Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi being the most well-known, but also the least well-liked. Thirty-one percent of Americans view Pelosi favorably and 48% unfavorably. Her resulting net -17 image score compares with -11 for Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, -10 for Republican Speaker of the House John Boehner, and -8 for Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano does not have the authority to refuse to enforce laws that require illegal immigrants to face deportation, according to the federal judge hearing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement union?s lawsuit against DHS.

?The court finds that DHS does not have discretion to refuse to initiate removal proceedings [when the law requires it],? U.S. District Judge Reed O?Connor said today, per Business Week. O?Connor asked DHS and the ICE union to offer additional arguments before he makes a final ruling on the legality of President Obama?s ?deferred action on childhood arrivals? (DACA) program, which invoked prosecutorial discretion as a means of allowing people to stay in the country if they would have qualified for amnesty under the DREAM Act, which never passed through Congress.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_PLANNED_PARENTHOOD?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-04-26-11-37-33

You don’t need more than 10 rounds, or a rifle that looks scary because it might be used to kill children.

But hey, some kids, its your right to kill them…