Sorry, thought it was. So is it not a good idea to take these two together? Should I switch it with something else?
[quote]dreadhead01 wrote:
Sorry, thought it was. So is it not a good idea to take these two together? Should I switch it with something else?[/quote]
If you insist on only using orals then you need to find a class I oral to use with your class II anadrol. Usually winstrol is a good fit with anadrol.
Honestly, if you are not ready to inject maybe you are not ready for AAS yet.
I can’t believe this…
Do you have any idea what you’re doing? Really, do you?
Let me get this straight, your proposed cycle is… Anavar + Superdrol? And your PCT is NO2 Supplements and Novedex (Please note, this is NOT tamoxifen citrate, but rather ATD, an OTC AI).
Bravo.
Not that i don’t want to use injections, just that I haven’t before.
Also, to the last poster, if what I stated is not good enough why not suggest something to add to it? The reason I posted this was for some help, if your not going to, then why post?
[quote]dreadhead01 wrote:
Thanks for all the replys everyone. I don’t think I am ready to use serenges just yet. Can anyone look at the stack below and criticise it? Tell me what may work better?
Thinking about running the Testadrol supplement.
Anadrol - 6 weeks
Testadrol - 6 weeks
ErgoPharm 6-OXO or Nolvadex - I don’t need to stop taking this do I?
Liv 52
corTesten - the Ntrual test booster
Any suggestions?
[/quote]
What would work better?
Fucking kill yourself.
If you had done any research whatsoever you would know that oral only cycles suck dick. Your about to give an even worse name to AAS. Test boosters don’t fucking work, all the good ones are banned. Do us a favor and go away to read for a long long time.
Monopoly
Forums are here to help people. The last poster did NOT help at all. As said before, if you have nothing good to add, don’t add it at all.
[quote]dreadhead01 wrote:
Forums are here to help people. The last poster did NOT help at all. As said before, if you have nothing good to add, don’t add it at all. [/quote]
Well, it was good for me. And even if you think it was bad for you, it wasn’t. Everyone is telling you the same thing. It’s a bad idea no matter how you slice it, don’t do it. You have no clue how AAS works and you want us to do everything for you. Want help? Here you go. As I said before, spend a long time reading.
http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=354419
Monopoly
He just said it a little abrasively. Obviously this guy needs to get his information together. I dont think Anadrol by itself as a first cycle would be a wise decision. Test boosters are almost completely innefective and 6 oxo is innefective as PCT. Why not run a low test cycle as a first timer? You need to get over your fear of needles, get a buddy to inject if its that difficult. Anadrol is pretty tough stuff and would be a waste by itself. Do some more research for the sake of your health. Hold off for now IMO.
Monopoly your pretty harsh dude. You’re right, but harsh. From what I’ve read, you’ll have a hard time keeping the gains from such an oral cycle. I’m planning on running Test with Anadrol on my 3rd week. I feel that I get the added benefit of a long-acting steroid with the sudden explosion of puffy mass from Anadrol (I would appreciate criticism).
Also, if i may add, adding Superdrol to an already toxic oral steroid is just asking for trouble. I did a two Superdrol cycles and at the end of my last one my doctor was actually worried. A few weeks after discontinuation (end of PCT) my liver values improved. I would really look into running some test. Self-injections aren’t so bad really once you actually do it. My two centavos.
It was just the “Kill yourself” part that was messed up. Forums are for networking and educational purposes, not for flaming. I did some research, I even posted on another forum. I cam her asking for specific information that I could not find the exact answer for while searching. If he was trying to help, the “Kill yourself” statement could have been left out, I think.
Ya, I wasn’t sure if the Testadrol would be good to run with it, thats why I asked first. Someone said run test with it, I thought this would work instead of injections.
I’m concidering injections, still not sure yet.
Testadrol will not work in place of straight Test, sorry.
I sent you a PM outlining a basic cycle that you should run (sorry, it includes injectables). It’s simple, effective, and relatively safe. (Basic 500mg of Test E for 12 weeks with proper ancillaries and PCT)
[quote]dreadhead01 wrote:
It was just the “Kill yourself” part that was messed up. Forums are for networking and educational purposes, not for flaming. I did some research, I even posted on another forum. I cam her asking for specific information that I could not find the exact answer for while searching. If he was trying to help, the “Kill yourself” statement could have been left out, I think.
Ya, I wasn’t sure if the Testadrol would be good to run with it, thats why I asked first. Someone said run test with it, I thought this would work instead of injections.
I’m concidering injections, still not sure yet. [/quote]
I think Monopoly got pissed because you keep asking the same question, just in slightly different ways. Nine times out of ten this means the person just wants someone to give him the answer he wants. In your case, you have been given answers, you have been given links, and you have been told what’s wrong with your plan.
But you keep coming back asking the same thing more or less. Someone mentioned that you should read Furious’ posts about beginner cycles and someone said to look at the Anadrol/Winstrol cycles of Tone and company. But then you come back, saying you have read everything, and ask about OTC supplements and PCT while you combine a strong oral steroid with a prohormone.
Do you understand where the frustrations is coming from now? And on another note, you haven’t listed anything about yourself as far as I can see. Things like weight, height, and age are needed. I’m betting if you did, you would be getting a whole lot more advice…
The fear of injections is gone after the first injection. I will be honest, I wasn’t crazy about doing my first injection. But after I pulled the needle out of my leg and realized it was over, I couldn’t believe how easy and painless it can be. Now I can do every day injection protocols and actually look forward to it.
[quote]2thepain wrote:
The fear of injections is gone after the first injection. I will be honest, I wasn’t crazy about doing my first injection. But after I pulled the needle out of my leg and realized it was over, I couldn’t believe how easy and painless it can be. Now I can do every day injection protocols and actually look forward to it.[/quote]
Yup, I was in the doctors office for a tetanous (sp) shot, fuckin stepped on a nail, and the nurse was super cool. She told me, “Shoulder or buttocks?” I told her I only take my shots in the arse. Joking. Well she was basically lining me out on how to administer the shot and I was like cool. I told her that if she didn’t mind if I did. She kinda hestitated and finally complied. And BAAIM! my first self-administerd shot. No biggie.
[quote]MrZsasz wrote:
I think Monopoly got pissed because you keep asking the same question, just in slightly different ways. Nine times out of ten this means the person just wants someone to give him the answer he wants. In your case, you have been given answers, you have been given links, and you have been told what’s wrong with your plan.
But you keep coming back asking the same thing more or less. Someone mentioned that you should read Furious’ posts about beginner cycles and someone said to look at the Anadrol/Winstrol cycles of Tone and company. But then you come back, saying you have read everything, and ask about OTC supplements and PCT while you combine a strong oral steroid with a prohormone.
Do you understand where the frustrations is coming from now? And on another note, you haven’t listed anything about yourself as far as I can see. Things like weight, height, and age are needed. I’m betting if you did, you would be getting a whole lot more advice…[/quote]
Thanks for putting my feelings down in a nice tone Zsasz. I wasn’t in the best of moods last night and you pretty much covered my thoughts.
It’s also frustrating because I remember being at that same point. I wanted to do an oral only cycle as I hated needles. However, I searched. I read. I found out it was a bad idea. I didn’t post before I did my homework asking a question that frankly is easily answered.
I’m also an asshole and don’t really care for people in general 
Monopoly
Take to the pain’s advice when your ready to inject then come back and see us!
Injectable testosterone is none toxic anadrol and winstrol are toxic.
Give your liver a break and just try running 500mgs of test cyp. for 12 week’s.
Then you can see how your body will react such as side effect’s.
I’M new to the game but if i had my first cycle to do over again it would be just some good ol test!
Good luck’
Judge
No, I didn’t post my age for a reason, mainly because when I do i always hear “don’t do it, your to younge for gear kid, you’ll stop growing”. I’m 19 years old, I’m 6 foot 10, and I’m about 320-340 pounds. I really don’t care if I stop growing, I think I am big enough really.
I think I am going to go the injection route, I have a friend that will help me with it, she uses injections on a daily bases, so I don’t think I would have much of a problem trusting her to do it.
Sorry to frustrate you all, and I was paying attension to what everyone was saying, here, and on another forum, just some of the stuff they said didn’t coinside with the stuff people here were saying, so I wasn’t sure wich one to follow. I’m going to start with the cycle that was PMed to me yesterday in about 2 months from here.
Thanks for the help everyone.
320-340lbs at what %BF? Dude I wouldn’t judge by the age because were on the same boat, I’m 19 too. But you gotta be honest with yourself here. Did you do everything in your power to grow (muscle tissue)naturally? I’m still answering no after almost 4 years of weight training. I’ve been in the “game” for ,this June, 6 altogether. I’d stockpile the gear and keep on plugging along being natural. My two centavos.
20% BF on off season 10-15 on season. I’m a realy big guy, I’ll try to get some pics up soon. I’ve been lifting a bit before high school, but right when I got into high school is when I got into football, thats when I got into lifting really heavy, so about 5 or 6 years.
[quote]dreadhead01 wrote:
20% BF on off season 10-15 on season. I’m a realy big guy, I’ll try to get some pics up soon. I’ve been lifting a bit before high school, but right when I got into high school is when I got into football, thats when I got into lifting really heavy, so about 5 or 6 years.[/quote]
Now, this isn’t me making fun but I am asking, at your size, do you really think that steroids are needed to get bigger? I’m pretty sure you have your own gravitational field at this point.
What exactly is your goal for this cycle? Gain? Cut? Increase endurance? Maybe that’s where we need to start in order to give you the best advice.