[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
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Nice post.
More cheerleaders. I must be on to something here.
Loppar totally demolished your silly little theory and this is your only response?
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Only in your dreams.
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Just further reinforces the fact that you are way off base.[/quote]
[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
Umm – I’m just going off the top of my head here, but Sulla had far stronger powers as dictator of Rome just prior to Pompey getting his military command to take care of the pirates. Sulla systematically got rid of his enemies (and perceived enemies) and annexed their property – and offered part of their property as payment to those who turned in the “traitors.” Prior to Sulla, Gaius Marius had quite a bit of power – and if I recall, went rather crazy and caused quite a bloodbath.
I believe historians think one of the main things that lead to this was the transformation of the Roman legions from volunteer forces made up solely of Roman citizens of a certain class into a standing professional army drawn more broadly from throughout the empire – including noncitizens who had little allegiance to Rome.
In other words, I don’t think your comparison is quite apt.[/quote]
Err, you could have some points there.
I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m not really a historian, so I don’t know THAT much about it.
I DO know a hell of a lot more than the cheerleaders though. Obviously.
ON ANY SUBJECT ! ! ! 
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
lothario1132 wrote:
loppar wins.
Wreckless? You okay? 
Hahahahaha!
I’m inagining wreckless sitting in the corner with fingers in ears mumbling in a low, crazy voice “lala lala lala lala”
Wreckless,
With every post, you prove how fucking crazy you truly are. If you think the burning of Ostia is comparable to 9/11, then…wow…
Seutonius is spinning in his grave.
It’s similar, in the overall picture. A dominant nation was attacked in a way it didn’t think was possible. And they overreacted.
If you don’t see that, you must be a fucking retard.[/quote]
Is that what happened in Holland or Belgium, wherever the fuck you’re from? Your defense against aggressive neighbors was to curl up into a ball and preach non-violence? To attack those who protect you?
How’d that work out in the 20th century?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
lothario1132 wrote:
loppar wins.
Wreckless? You okay?
Hahahahaha!
I’m inagining wreckless sitting in the corner with fingers in ears mumbling in a low, crazy voice “lala lala lala lala”
Wreckless,
With every post, you prove how fucking crazy you truly are. If you think the burning of Ostia is comparable to 9/11, then…wow…
Seutonius is spinning in his grave.
It’s similar, in the overall picture. A dominant nation was attacked in a way it didn’t think was possible. And they overreacted.
If you don’t see that, you must be a fucking retard.
Is that what happened in Holland or Belgium, wherever the fuck you’re from? Your defense against aggressive neighbors was to curl up into a ball and preach non-violence? To attack those who protect you?
How’d that work out in the 20th century?
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You don’t know that much about history do you?
How does the Bush doctrine work out for you? Why don’t you put your ass where your big mouth is and why aren’t you being your own patriotic self in Iraq?
Coward?
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
…I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m not really a historian, so I don’t know THAT much about it.
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Smartest thing you have ever posted.
GodDAMMIT Wreckless got owned.
You guys passed him around like a drunk coed at a frat party. I’d join in, but I have to draw the line at sloppy fourths or fifths.
Go wash up, Wreckless, and maybe I’ll buy you another drink.
[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
GodDAMMIT Wreckless got owned.
You guys passed him around like a drunk coed at a frat party. I’d join in, but I have to draw the line at sloppy fourths or fifths.
Go wash up, Wreckless, and maybe I’ll buy you another drink.[/quote]
Aaaaaahahahahahaha!
That, sir, was the funniest damn post I have read in a while.
Good stuff :-]
[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
GodDAMMIT Wreckless got owned.
You guys passed him around like a drunk coed at a frat party. I’d join in, but I have to draw the line at sloppy fourths or fifths.
Go wash up, Wreckless, and maybe I’ll buy you another drink.[/quote]
Who died and made you judge? You’re just a stupid cheerleader.
If anybody got owned here, it would be you.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
lothario1132 wrote:
GodDAMMIT Wreckless got owned.
You guys passed him around like a drunk coed at a frat party. I’d join in, but I have to draw the line at sloppy fourths or fifths.
Go wash up, Wreckless, and maybe I’ll buy you another drink.
Aaaaaahahahahahaha!
That, sir, was the funniest damn post I have read in a while.
Good stuff :-]
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You know you have the cheerleaders by the short and curlies when they start to congratulate each other.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
…I’ll let you in on a little secret. I’m not really a historian, so I don’t know THAT much about it.
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Smartest thing you have ever posted.[/quote]
Ok, now it’s your turn to post something smart.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Who died and made you judge? You’re just a stupid cheerleader.
If anybody got owned here, it would be you.
Wreckless wrote:
You know you have the cheerleaders by the short and curlies when they start to congratulate each other. [/quote]
The owning is even better when you cry like a little girl
Hahahaha! Keep it up! I’m enjoying myself terribly
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Who died and made you judge? You’re just a stupid cheerleader.
If anybody got owned here, it would be you.
Wreckless wrote:
You know you have the cheerleaders by the short and curlies when they start to congratulate each other.
The owning is even better when you cry like a little girl
Hahahaha! Keep it up! I’m enjoying myself terribly
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I think it is getting sad. All you bullys are picking on the retarded kid.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Who died and made you judge? You’re just a stupid cheerleader.
If anybody got owned here, it would be you.
Wreckless wrote:
You know you have the cheerleaders by the short and curlies when they start to congratulate each other.
The owning is even better when you cry like a little girl
Hahahaha! Keep it up! I’m enjoying myself terribly
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I’m sure you are.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Who died and made you judge? You’re just a stupid cheerleader.
If anybody got owned here, it would be you.
Wreckless wrote:
You know you have the cheerleaders by the short and curlies when they start to congratulate each other.
The owning is even better when you cry like a little girl
Hahahaha! Keep it up! I’m enjoying myself terribly
I think it is getting sad. All you bullys are picking on the retarded kid.[/quote]
You’re projecting again. Remember what your shrink said about that?
Also, from one retard to another, it’s “bullies”.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Who died and made you judge? You’re just a stupid cheerleader.
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You are just too damn cute. And not to split hairs or anything, but if anybody’s in a cheerleader costume having dudes take turns with them it would be you.
“Ewwww! Not in my hair! I have a date tomorrow!”
Loppar, i think you’re making good points about subjectivity. History may be appropriated for many causes, but a sequence of facts (if well researched) can also be established with a degree of certainty. Parallels can then be drawn.
This is the point wreckless was making. Read this part. There may be variations, be loppar, zap et al, but fundamentally, ‘In fear, a great nation gave their executive power to killers. This was the beginning of the end’ is the sentiment.
Regardless of your apprehension of Roman history, is that not true? And the rise of an ignorant military power usually is the beginning of the end (many many examples in history, past and present. Africa at the moment is a good example)
Power in numbers obscured any view of the loss of human rights that has occurred