[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
AdamC wrote:
…True. We didn’t invade Ireland because the IRA started bombing us.
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Sarcasm?[/quote]
Errrr no. I mean ok, I know technically it goes way back, and in their eyes we are already invaders but you get me?
It’s been 10 years since i studied this at school so im a bit sketchy, but when I was a kid, we were getting IRA car bombs in English cities, left, right and centre. However, we didn’t declare war on the Republic of Ireland. What I’m saying is, the US invading Afgahanistan because of the acts of the Taliban, is comparable with the UK invading the Republic of Ireland because of the IRA. Maybe this is a poor comparison, and im clutching at straws but parallels can be drawn. We eventually talked it out and things are better.
Are other actors on the world stage trying to do what is “right,” or is all the “moral” talk just convenient when you’re not the strongest kid on the block.
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Nation-states aren’t moral. Of course, some I’d rather live in than others but nation-states, by their nature, are not moral.
They were decimated, so they sort of had to go that direction. The U.S and it’s allies wouldn’t allow anything else.
Prior to that, they were really no different than the U.S. and Great Britain. Yes, the U.S and Britain weren’t as brutal, but still had similar aims. Just consider one of the reasons why Japan attacked Pearl Harbor: they wanted to have their own Asian sphere of power/influence without Western influence. The U.S and Great Britain had significant economic power and influence in Asia.
Perhaps, but it also makes the nation-state look rather undesirable to me. If I were a martian from a distant planet and saw how people on earth lived I’d go back the way I came.
I guess it would depend on your perspective. To Americans it wouldn’t be so cool.
What is normally profitable for the country isn’t for the country’s citizens.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
Now you only have to show that I show four or more of this traits on a consistent level withing relationships.
No, we don’t.
It, like you, means nothing.
If you want a valid diagnosis you do.
If not continue to find reasons to dismiss my arguments.
Labelling dissenters as psychiatric cases has a lot of not so proud history.
Maybe you will lead the way for the rest of American society?
I repeat: It’s like you. It means nothing.
You and your love of antagonizing others pretty quickly gets tiring. I have no interest in associating with people like you. Such behavior can be contagious, and I don’t want to catch it.
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Oh no, God forbid people get antagonized.
What might happen if that catches on?
Best to cater to their weaknesses and illusions, perhaps make a quick buck off of them.
[quote]AdamC wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
AdamC wrote:
…True. We didn’t invade Ireland because the IRA started bombing us.
…
Sarcasm?
Errrr no. I mean ok, I know technically it goes way back, and in their eyes we are already invaders but you get me?
It’s been 10 years since i studied this at school so im a bit sketchy, but when I was a kid, we were getting IRA car bombs in English cities, left, right and centre. However, we didn’t declare war on the Republic of Ireland. What I’m saying is, the US invading Afgahanistan because of the acts of the Taliban, is comparable with the UK invading the Republic of Ireland because of the IRA. Maybe this is a poor comparison, and im clutching at straws but parallels can be drawn. We eventually talked it out and things are better. [/quote]
As things will get better with our relationship with the Muslim world.
When the IRA was bombing London there were already plenty of British troops in Northern Ireland. They stayed there, killed some bad guys and worked with others and hammered out some sort of peace.
The US in Iraq is now working with militias it fought a year ago and is working to get rid of the real fringe crazies like AQ.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
Since this is in Off Topic, I shall act accordingly:
America…FUCK YEAH!!!
Lick my ass and suck on my ba-aalls!
America…FUCK YEAH!!!
“We’re dicks! We’re reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Film Actors Guild are pussies. And Kim Jong Il is an asshole. Pussies don’t like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn’t appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves… because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don’t know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don’t let us fuck this asshole, we’re going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!”[/quote]
[quote]DS 007 wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
Since this is in Off Topic, I shall act accordingly:
America…FUCK YEAH!!!
Lick my ass and suck on my ba-aalls!
America…FUCK YEAH!!!
“We’re dicks! We’re reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Film Actors Guild are pussies. And Kim Jong Il is an asshole. Pussies don’t like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn’t appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves… because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don’t know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don’t let us fuck this asshole, we’re going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!”
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
AdamC wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
AdamC wrote:
…True. We didn’t invade Ireland because the IRA started bombing us.
…
Sarcasm?
Errrr no. I mean ok, I know technically it goes way back, and in their eyes we are already invaders but you get me?
It’s been 10 years since i studied this at school so im a bit sketchy, but when I was a kid, we were getting IRA car bombs in English cities, left, right and centre. However, we didn’t declare war on the Republic of Ireland. What I’m saying is, the US invading Afgahanistan because of the acts of the Taliban, is comparable with the UK invading the Republic of Ireland because of the IRA. Maybe this is a poor comparison, and im clutching at straws but parallels can be drawn. We eventually talked it out and things are better.
As things will get better with our relationship with the Muslim world.
When the IRA was bombing London there were already plenty of British troops in Northern Ireland. They stayed there, killed some bad guys and worked with others and hammered out some sort of peace.
The US in Iraq is now working with militias it fought a year ago and is working to get rid of the real fringe crazies like AQ. [/quote]
Yeah, well that’s cool. But did you know that Chyna has a clit that looks like a small undeveloped penis?
[quote]AdamC wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
AdamC wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
AdamC wrote:
…True. We didn’t invade Ireland because the IRA started bombing us.
…
Sarcasm?
Errrr no. I mean ok, I know technically it goes way back, and in their eyes we are already invaders but you get me?
It’s been 10 years since i studied this at school so im a bit sketchy, but when I was a kid, we were getting IRA car bombs in English cities, left, right and centre. However, we didn’t declare war on the Republic of Ireland. What I’m saying is, the US invading Afgahanistan because of the acts of the Taliban, is comparable with the UK invading the Republic of Ireland because of the IRA. Maybe this is a poor comparison, and im clutching at straws but parallels can be drawn. We eventually talked it out and things are better.
As things will get better with our relationship with the Muslim world.
When the IRA was bombing London there were already plenty of British troops in Northern Ireland. They stayed there, killed some bad guys and worked with others and hammered out some sort of peace.
The US in Iraq is now working with militias it fought a year ago and is working to get rid of the real fringe crazies like AQ.
Yeah, well that’s cool. But did you know that Chyna has a clit that looks like a small undeveloped penis?[/quote]
Varqanir wrote:
“Suffice to say that I’ve done pretty much whatever I want in the last 17 years that I’ve lived here; have never felt harassed by government bureaucrats, the police or the military, nor even unduly put upon by the tax authorities.”
Funny, so have I.
And I lived in the US all of my life. Can’t say how this would effect anyone if they have nothing to hide.
You condemn the US when it goes to war against the terrorists using military means and say, “It’s a job for the police.”
But toughen up the laws so the police, FBI, can do their job to apprehend suspected terrorists and you condemn the US again.
So, what is our Government supposed to do to stop terrorism if everything they have done thus far is wrong?
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
You condemn the US when it goes to war against the terrorists using military means and say, “It’s a job for the police.” [/quote]
I don’t think so. I’m not aware of anybody here that didn’t support the overthrow of the Talibans. That was “war against the terrorists”. Iraq is a totally different story. There were virtually no terrorists there before the 2003 invasion. Now, they’re blowing people up all over the place.
Really? Did Varq condemn the US? From what I understood, his sentiment was more along the lines of disappointment. You know, “They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security”.
I have another question. The list of our rights that are disapearing from the other thread…do they apply to felonies, misdemeanors, or apply when battling suspected terrorists?
Because if they are only to be in use when battling alleged terrorists, the average law-breaking citizen is not effected.