[quote]gbock wrote:
This IS very wild, 6 bill people and no one has the exact same face and no one is exactally the same, all the way down to the finger prints. [/quote]
What I find crazy is that this is true, yet all humans have 99.9% of the same DNA.
.1% of our DNA can make us this different. Fuck.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
No need to flame. This is why I love bodybuilding and why I majored in biology in college. There is nothing more fascinating to me than how the body can change in response to stress. I have doubled my body weight since I first started lifting…something most would have said was impossible but people do it all of the time. The human body is a work of art on such a level that it makes me wonder how people can believe this all happened by accident.[/quote]
Accident? your right, god didn’t spend 3 billion years of trial and error on the path to where we are today, he just said fuck it and slapped us together.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
gbock wrote:
This IS very wild, 6 bill people and no one has the exact same face and no one is exactally the same, all the way down to the finger prints.
What I find crazy is that this is true, yet all humans have 99.9% of the same DNA.
.1% of our DNA can make us this different. Fuck.[/quote]
The human genome is what 10 billion lines of quadric linear programming, 0.1% is still 10,000,000 lines of code. From a programmers perspective over half of the code base is common sub-routines that nearly all life has. Ever noticed that trees, fungus, and animals are all coded in the same system? that isn’t an accident it is a trend, a system hammered out and evolved over billions of years, its like foreshadowing what the C++ API will be in another thousand years of computer development.
[quote]That One Guy wrote:
On a serious note, the human body is amazing, but our biosphere should also get some love. I mean the processes that are in place that regulate Earth are insane. From regulating water, temperature and even CO2 levels in the atmosphere! Shit’s crazy.[/quote]
I wouldn’t say that there are processes in place to “regulate” the earths environment. That implies intelligence or some kind of feedback control loop. There’s no evidence that the earth is intelligent or attempting to maintain a given equilibrium condition.
While the climate is a very complex system driven by many naturally occurring phenomena, life adapts to suit the climate (or it’s environment). The fact that adaptive evolution of a species happens in a smaller time frame than significant environmental changes enables life to survive. Imagine if the earths environment changed suddenly on a very short time scale relative to the life cycle of a given species. That species may have trouble surviving (e.g. dinosaur extinction).
I wasn’t commenting on your post rockula, I find the psychological aspect of the human body very interesting.
I was however trying to stop this thread turning into a god discussion after a couple of very misinformed statements were made.
[quote]The other Rob wrote:
I find the psychological aspect of the human body very interesting.
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My psychology is also my biology.
What aspects of the human psyche has you musing?
Everything 
Hallucinations, schizophrenia, body language, kinesthetic awareness, mental associations, memory, emotion (specifically the more complex emotions - schadenfreude etc) and their evolutionary origins and role in human survival. If I have any specific questions I’ll post them up here.
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
Ct. Rockula wrote:
The body is awesome, yet the mind is a wicked tool in itself
the mind is the more fragile thing because it came last in our evolution
That is why insanity and mental problem are easy to get.[/quote]
Holy stupidity batman.
[quote]ds1973 wrote:
That One Guy wrote:
On a serious note, the human body is amazing, but our biosphere should also get some love. I mean the processes that are in place that regulate Earth are insane. From regulating water, temperature and even CO2 levels in the atmosphere! Shit’s crazy.
I wouldn’t say that there are processes in place to “regulate” the earths environment. That implies intelligence or some kind of feedback control loop. There’s no evidence that the earth is intelligent or attempting to maintain a given equilibrium condition.
While the climate is a very complex system driven by many naturally occurring phenomena, life adapts to suit the climate (or it’s environment). The fact that adaptive evolution of a species happens in a smaller time frame than significant environmental changes enables life to survive. Imagine if the earths environment changed suddenly on a very short time scale relative to the life cycle of a given species. That species may have trouble surviving (e.g. dinosaur extinction).[/quote]
I understand that dude duh…geez fucking can’t have one word wrong in a post before some guy over the internet picks it apart because of semantics.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
gbock wrote:
This IS very wild, 6 bill people and no one has the exact same face and no one is exactally the same, all the way down to the finger prints.
What I find crazy is that this is true, yet all humans have 99.9% of the same DNA.
.1% of our DNA can make us this different. Fuck.[/quote]
We share about 98% of our DNA with chimps, 60% with fruitflies, and 50% with cabbage…go figger.
But what is behavior…besides a biochemical electrical process? Recalling your first BJ is merely recalling a memory engram which starts with the depolarization of an excitable membrane resulting from a rapid influx of sodium ions which changes the electrical gradient from a resting negative 70 millivolts to a positive 30 millivolts. Takes all the fun right out of it.
[quote]amphibian wrote:
But what is behavior…besides a biochemical electrical process? [/quote]
Are you saying my biology is my psychology?
: )
Which ever way around you look at it, indeed it is fun and fascinating.
all of these incomprehensible complexities you guys have listed, and you think it all “evolved” THAT amazes me.
[quote]The other Rob wrote:
(specifically the more complex emotions - schadenfreude etc) and their evolutionary origins and role in human survival.[/quote]
Is that a complex emotion or is that a condition of emotional poverty?
Do not the physically poor take pleasure in seeing the rich lose their fortune?
Misplacement of human equity with equality?
What of the issue of Vindication? Don’t the scales of justice dictate it?
[quote]Hyena wrote:
all of these incomprehensible complexities you guys have listed, and you think it all “evolved” THAT amazes me.[/quote]
Maybe ‘it’ has not evolved enough to develop common sense.
[quote]Hyena wrote:
all of these incomprehensible complexities you guys have listed, and you think it all “evolved” THAT amazes me.[/quote]
Ok, now I’m in on the whole evolution argument as it seems the God nuts won’t fucking leave it be.
Saying “just evolved” shows a massive lack of understanding of what it actually involves. We can show the evolution of pretty much every amazingly complex piece of machinery in the human body yet somehow people choose to remain ignorant and badmouth decades of scientific research just because it’s “too complex”.
Believe in god if you want to and it improves your life, but denying evolution I just can’t understand. Of course it’s all “just a theory”, but I’ll take it anyday over “some guy made us and everything this way for shits and giggles using his infinite power”. We have actually seen evolution happening.
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
The other Rob wrote:
(specifically the more complex emotions - schadenfreude etc) and their evolutionary origins and role in human survival.
Is that a complex emotion or is that a condition of emotional poverty?
Do not the physically poor take pleasure in seeing the rich lose their fortune?
Misplacement of human equity with equality?
What of the issue of Vindication? Don’t the scales of justice dictate it?
[/quote]
But one can see the evolutionary benefit to most human feelings, I am having trouble thinking of a survival benefit to enjoying the loss of others. Maybe it served as a way of making humans take pleasure in seeing the destruction of those who would harm them and limit future reproductive opportunities - a way of limiting empathy?
[quote]That One Guy wrote:
I understand that dude duh…geez fucking can’t have one word wrong in a post before some guy over the internet picks it apart because of semantics.[/quote]
Just wanted to be sure you weren’t one of those earth worshippers. I’ve come accross a few who think that the earth would be better off without man and refer to it as a living being.
“man is hurting mother earth” types…
[quote]Hyena wrote:
… THAT amazes me.[/quote]
That must happen a lot, eh champ?
[quote]The other Rob wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
The other Rob wrote:
(specifically the more complex emotions - schadenfreude etc) and their evolutionary origins and role in human survival.
Is that a complex emotion or is that a condition of emotional poverty?
Do not the physically poor take pleasure in seeing the rich lose their fortune?
Misplacement of human equity with equality?
What of the issue of Vindication? Don’t the scales of justice dictate it?
But one can see the evolutionary benefit to most human feelings, I am having trouble thinking of a survival benefit to enjoying the loss of others. Maybe it served as a way of making humans take pleasure in seeing the destruction of those who would harm them and limit future reproductive opportunities - a way of limiting empathy?[/quote]
Even the feelings and instincts that cannot be explained by evolutionary theory can be explained by genetic drift.
[quote]amphibian wrote:
But what is behavior…besides a biochemical electrical process? Recalling your first BJ is merely recalling a memory engram which starts with the depolarization of an excitable membrane resulting from a rapid influx of sodium ions which changes the electrical gradient from a resting negative 70 millivolts to a positive 30 millivolts. Takes all the fun right out of it.[/quote]
I strongly disagree. I know a lot about muscle mechanics and force production; doesn’t mean I don’t still enjoy lifting.