[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
I get the impression this Sex Machine fellow is just a character. Maybe that is the joke here and I’m not on the site enough to get it.
His knowledge drops are clearly from google queries, he’s asking for advice on how to pick up girls at McDonald’s, the smartest woman he’s know is his mother, his fashion sense is confined by tradition (yet cargo pants are acceptable), and to top it off, he has an avi of Giuilo Evola (which to be honest, kind of fits)…
It’s a joke, right - ha ha. Right? [/quote]
Evola was a bigtime dandy and he was a mass of some of the same contradictions as myself. He was a traditionalist and conservative but lived it up with women, wine and sports cars. The first half of Revolt Against the Modern World is the most eloquent and succinct critique of modernity and appeal to traditionalism ever written. It’s one of the greatest works of the 20th Century; highly under-rated / little known. A masterpiece waiting to be discovered.
Another interesting guy from Italy at that time was Gabriele D’Annunzio; fighter ace, ladies’ man / sex addict, sports car / aircraft enthusiast and far-right, reactionary nationalist. Mussolini copied everything from D’Annunzio. He seized Fiume with Italian Arditi(shock troops / stormtroopers) and founded his own city state. He also screwed hundreds of Europe’s most beautiful women and spent his spare time engaging in all sorts of excess.
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Coincidentally, I’ve been to his home (museum now) in Pescara…
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
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[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
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[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
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That guy’s clothes fit him well but he doesn’t understand the basic rules. You don’t wear a white t-shirt under a black/navy sweater and fawn coloured trousers don’t go with a black/navy sweater either. When I wear fawn trousers/slacks/chinos I wear a white shirt alone or a sweater of a compatible colour such as mustard or light brown. These rules are actually set in stone and have been for a long time. Others are never wear brown shoes in a navy, grey or black suit. Never wear long sleeves or anything with a collar when you’re wearing shorts. Most of it is really just common sense if you have good taste.[/quote]
You can absolutely wear brown shoes with a grey suit.
And you’re giving advice after sharing your entirely blue, head to toe get-up, including blue cargo pants and blue toms (wut?), with your purdy Rolex. Funny. [/quote]
Okay, I’ll just ignore the second part. The attached picture explains it. You can get away with brown shoes and light grey but I wouldn’t do it. This article is actually pretty good:
I can’t really hang around to respond to any more questions. You fellas will just have to find something to do with yourselves till I return. Maybe go workout?[/quote]
Sorry, man. You’ve lost all credibility with this one. Brown shoes go with every suit except black. Including navy. Including Grey. Including dark grey (maybe not the really dark charcoal grey that looks black). [/quote]
It’s a matter of personal taste. You’d never see a man wearing brown shoes with a navy suit 40 years ago. You’d only ever wear black shoes with a navy suit. The article says brown shoes with navy is less formal and more “playful” or something. If you’re dressing formal, and a navy suit is formal attire, then you wear black shoes.[/quote]
Here’s what I’m having trouble with - you’re fixated on “classic” looks and style it appears (correct me if I’m wrong) but have failed to acknowledge that style and dress has and always will “evolve” into acceptable trends which are only a mirror of the past. You saying few men know how to dress now a days is like our grandfathers saying that about the same style you claim as the standard…
Here in the US -
Tan Chinos are considered a neutral like jeans. You can wear them with almost anything.
A white undershirt can usually be worn as a layer under nearly anything.
You can mix black with tan or brown.
You can mix navy with brown or black.
You can mix charcoal with brown or navy.
You can wear a long sleeved shirt with shorts. A rolled long sleeve often looks better.
Despite what Grandma told you, your purse doesn’t have to match your heels…
Your belt doesn’t need to match your shoes, you get the idea.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
If you happen to be built like Laird Hamilton, a pair of board shorts and you’re good. [/quote]
My physique is still a work in progress but as you can see I’m looking totally bitch ass in my bitch ass new suit spanking my bitch’s ass.
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
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That guy’s clothes fit him well but he doesn’t understand the basic rules. You don’t wear a white t-shirt under a black/navy sweater and fawn coloured trousers don’t go with a black/navy sweater either. When I wear fawn trousers/slacks/chinos I wear a white shirt alone or a sweater of a compatible colour such as mustard or light brown. These rules are actually set in stone and have been for a long time. Others are never wear brown shoes in a navy, grey or black suit. Never wear long sleeves or anything with a collar when you’re wearing shorts. Most of it is really just common sense if you have good taste.[/quote]
You can absolutely wear brown shoes with a grey suit.
And you’re giving advice after sharing your entirely blue, head to toe get-up, including blue cargo pants and blue toms (wut?), with your purdy Rolex. Funny. [/quote]
Okay, I’ll just ignore the second part. The attached picture explains it. You can get away with brown shoes and light grey but I wouldn’t do it. This article is actually pretty good:
I can’t really hang around to respond to any more questions. You fellas will just have to find something to do with yourselves till I return. Maybe go workout?[/quote]
Sorry, man. You’ve lost all credibility with this one. Brown shoes go with every suit except black. Including navy. Including Grey. Including dark grey (maybe not the really dark charcoal grey that looks black). [/quote]
It’s a matter of personal taste. You’d never see a man wearing brown shoes with a navy suit 40 years ago. You’d only ever wear black shoes with a navy suit. The article says brown shoes with navy is less formal and more “playful” or something. If you’re dressing formal, and a navy suit is formal attire, then you wear black shoes.[/quote]
Here’s what I’m having trouble with - you’re fixated on “classic” looks and style it appears (correct me if I’m wrong) but have failed to acknowledge that style and dress has and always will “evolve” into acceptable trends which are only a mirror of the past. You saying few men know how to dress now a days is like our grandfathers saying that about the same style you claim as the standard…[/quote]
Yes I understand your point but here’s mine. Real style is timeless. It doesn’t change. What is called style today is not style at all. It’s bad taste for the most part.
This is a good article on peacocking:
It is pretty fun to walk into a really classy joint where everyone else is wearing the same kind of stuff and you’re wearing something borderline ridiculous but still cool. I always approach the target immediately upon her noticing me and if I fuck it up I leave the joint immediately and go to the next one. Not out of confidence issues but because when the rest of the high value women in the place see you fail they will immediately rule you out. It just a wastes time and you get a much higher success rate if you play it fast and furious. That’s why only cities / dense population areas are any good for game.
The other thing I always do is have at least 3 drinks before I start and then just enough to try to keep the blood alcohol level at the right level. Not too drunk; not too sober.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]ecjim wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
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That guy’s clothes fit him well but he doesn’t understand the basic rules. You don’t wear a white t-shirt under a black/navy sweater and fawn coloured trousers don’t go with a black/navy sweater either. When I wear fawn trousers/slacks/chinos I wear a white shirt alone or a sweater of a compatible colour such as mustard or light brown. These rules are actually set in stone and have been for a long time. Others are never wear brown shoes in a navy, grey or black suit. Never wear long sleeves or anything with a collar when you’re wearing shorts. Most of it is really just common sense if you have good taste.[/quote]
SM - maybe you could give me some advice on dressing properly - My cowboy boots are all black or brown - I have shiny black for church and not so shiny black for every day and riding my motorcycle. I also have a nice pair of tan- (or they could be fawn, I’m not sure how to tell the difference) I also have some older sort of beat up but comfortable pairs in darker brown - (not fawn) and black. My question Sir, is this - How would I match these boots with my jeans? I have a choice between blue jeans or black, some are faded, so should I pair these with the older boots? What about the tan boots? Is it OK to pair these with black jeans or blue jeans? I don’t own any tan or fawn jeans, I don’t think Levi or Wrangler makes them. Maybe I would be better off just wearing a pair of Chucks, what do you think? Thanks for your help Sir.
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For you guys. Recent pic of my brother.
Some of this depends on what your hobbies are, and where you’re from.
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It’s hard to tell if his boots properly match his jeans - they are too dusty - are they fawn in color? Should’t he be wearing a Blazer and a shirt with buttons?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
This is a good article on peacocking:
It is pretty fun to walk into a really classy joint where everyone else is wearing the same kind of stuff and you’re wearing something borderline ridiculous but still cool. I always approach the target immediately upon her noticing me and if I fuck it up I leave the joint immediately and go to the next one. Not out of confidence issues but because when the rest of the high value women in the place see you fail they will immediately rule you out. It just a wastes time and you get a much higher success rate if you play it fast and furious. That’s why only cities / dense population areas are any good for game.
The other thing I always do is have at least 3 drinks before I start and then just enough to try to keep the blood alcohol level at the right level. Not too drunk; not too sober.[/quote]
You’ve never done any of this.
[quote]AliveAgain36 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
This is a good article on peacocking:
It is pretty fun to walk into a really classy joint where everyone else is wearing the same kind of stuff and you’re wearing something borderline ridiculous but still cool. I always approach the target immediately upon her noticing me and if I fuck it up I leave the joint immediately and go to the next one. Not out of confidence issues but because when the rest of the high value women in the place see you fail they will immediately rule you out. It just a wastes time and you get a much higher success rate if you play it fast and furious. That’s why only cities / dense population areas are any good for game.
The other thing I always do is have at least 3 drinks before I start and then just enough to try to keep the blood alcohol level at the right level. Not too drunk; not too sober.[/quote]
You’ve never done any of this. [/quote]
I’ve never got semi-drunk and walked into bars and clubs and tried to pick up women? I assure you I have. Haven’t you?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
This is a good article on peacocking:
It is pretty fun to walk into a really classy joint where everyone else is wearing the same kind of stuff and you’re wearing something borderline ridiculous but still cool. I always approach the target immediately upon her noticing me and if I fuck it up I leave the joint immediately and go to the next one. Not out of confidence issues but because when the rest of the high value women in the place see you fail they will immediately rule you out. It just a wastes time and you get a much higher success rate if you play it fast and furious. That’s why only cities / dense population areas are any good for game.
The other thing I always do is have at least 3 drinks before I start and then just enough to try to keep the blood alcohol level at the right level. Not too drunk; not too sober.[/quote]
I wouldn’t think the woman that go for the approach you are describing should really be placed in the “high value” category. That might be a reason why you aren’t connecting with women that are up to your high value standards. Aside from the micky dees chick from a week ago or so, of course.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
This is a good article on peacocking:
It is pretty fun to walk into a really classy joint where everyone else is wearing the same kind of stuff and you’re wearing something borderline ridiculous but still cool. I always approach the target immediately upon her noticing me and if I fuck it up I leave the joint immediately and go to the next one. Not out of confidence issues but because when the rest of the high value women in the place see you fail they will immediately rule you out. It just a wastes time and you get a much higher success rate if you play it fast and furious. That’s why only cities / dense population areas are any good for game.
The other thing I always do is have at least 3 drinks before I start and then just enough to try to keep the blood alcohol level at the right level. Not too drunk; not too sober.[/quote]
I wouldn’t think the woman that go for the approach you are describing should really be placed in the “high value” category. That might be a reason why you aren’t connecting with women that are up to your high value standards. Aside from the micky dees chick from a week ago or so, of course. [/quote]
I don’t know what you mean by “the approach [I’m] describing”. I’m just describing meeting women in bars. Most of my girlfriends I met in bars or clubs. That’s pretty much the go to place for meeting women. That’s my approach.
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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
When I was young and stupid I thought I’d find a woman I actually wanted to marry and live with at university. But when I met all these “smart” women I realised that they’re unicorns. The smartest woman I’ve known was my mother. Her IQ was around 140. My maternal grandmother’s IQ was around 160 apparently. You just do not find a stable, sexually attractive woman with high intelligence. They just do not exist. But now I’ve come to thank my lucky stars because it makes it so much easier to get their panties off.[/quote]
Well, this paragraph explains a lot…
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Good grief. I just saw this.
It’s been fun… then things got really, really creepy.
LOL Puff, All these pictures you’ve posted only prove that good looking guys look good. lol
I’m really glad I’m oblivious to fashion though because all these complicated rules sound like a lot of trouble.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
This is a good article on peacocking:
It is pretty fun to walk into a really classy joint where everyone else is wearing the same kind of stuff and you’re wearing something borderline ridiculous but still cool. I always approach the target immediately upon her noticing me and if I fuck it up I leave the joint immediately and go to the next one. Not out of confidence issues but because when the rest of the high value women in the place see you fail they will immediately rule you out. It just a wastes time and you get a much higher success rate if you play it fast and furious. That’s why only cities / dense population areas are any good for game.
The other thing I always do is have at least 3 drinks before I start and then just enough to try to keep the blood alcohol level at the right level. Not too drunk; not too sober.[/quote]
I wouldn’t think the woman that go for the approach you are describing should really be placed in the “high value” category. That might be a reason why you aren’t connecting with women that are up to your high value standards. Aside from the micky dees chick from a week ago or so, of course. [/quote]
I don’t know what you mean by “the approach [I’m] describing”. I’m just describing meeting women in bars. Most of my girlfriends I met in bars or clubs. That’s pretty much the go to place for meeting women. That’s my approach.
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I meant your approach of walking into a bar semi buzed, walking up and talking to the first woman that looks at you, and if it doesn’t work out real quick, walking out of that bar.
I am half convinced that SM is joking here. I mean, right? You’re a very smart guy, you have a very good philosophical mind. Surely you don’t actually think in MRA nonsense-terminology like “Alpha Male” (which, as has been pointed out [albeit in less word-puzzly manner], is a term used to describe a kind of guy whom nobody who uses the term has ever remotely resembled), “high value” vs. “low value” women, etc.? I mean, of course there are women (i.e., people) who are classless, but neither romance nor sex should be thought about in terms of number values and sliding scales and high-and-low-value targets all the other ridiculous nonsense MRAs beat off to, and I detect a good dose of that nonsense in your posts here.
As for the sartorial side of things, I’m with Varq: classy but unfussy, as the current Mr. Bond seems to dress. Bespoke shirts, particularly with a well-built body, do more than anything else (once your suits and blazers are in order). Casual is casual – jeans and a well-made tee. Shorts just above the knee and well-fitted. A few good pairs of sunglasses and a few nice-but-not-remotely-ostentatious watches.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
This is a good article on peacocking:
It is pretty fun to walk into a really classy joint where everyone else is wearing the same kind of stuff and you’re wearing something borderline ridiculous but still cool. I always approach the target immediately upon her noticing me and if I fuck it up I leave the joint immediately and go to the next one. Not out of confidence issues but because when the rest of the high value women in the place see you fail they will immediately rule you out. It just a wastes time and you get a much higher success rate if you play it fast and furious. That’s why only cities / dense population areas are any good for game.
The other thing I always do is have at least 3 drinks before I start and then just enough to try to keep the blood alcohol level at the right level. Not too drunk; not too sober.[/quote]
I wouldn’t think the woman that go for the approach you are describing should really be placed in the “high value” category. That might be a reason why you aren’t connecting with women that are up to your high value standards. Aside from the micky dees chick from a week ago or so, of course. [/quote]
I don’t know what you mean by “the approach [I’m] describing”. I’m just describing meeting women in bars. Most of my girlfriends I met in bars or clubs. That’s pretty much the go to place for meeting women. That’s my approach.
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I meant your approach of walking into a bar semi buzed, walking up and talking to the first woman that looks at you, and if it doesn’t work out real quick, walking out of that bar.
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I never said anything about approaching the first woman who looks at me? What? I said when the “target” - ie, the woman i like the look of notices me I immediately approach her rather than wait and hang around drinking or talking to other people because that’s hesitation which equals weakness and lack of confidence. And if you peacock into the place and draw everyone’s attention to you then boldly walk up to the queen bee it makes a good first impression. Of course it’s easy to completely fuck it up after a good approach.
It only would strengthen your odds by being conscious of the fact that there are other women in that bar that you didn’t make eye contact with immediately, they might have noticed you from a distance or whatever and saw you strike out and leave, with what would look like to them, with your tail between your legs. One of those women that saw this could very well be a high value woman that you walk into a different bar in the future and make immediate eye contact with.
Be aware of your surroundings. It’s a good rule to live by in all areas of your life.
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I am half convinced that SM is joking here.
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Some joking and some not joking.
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You don’t need to resemble it only convincingly act it long enough to seal the deal. Pick up artists aren’t alphas because although they’re good at getting laid they can’t sustain a longterm relationship with women.
Even if that were true, and thanks for saying so, it hasn’t really been of a lot of benefit. Intelligence beyond above average(110 - standard deviation above) isn’t really very useful unless you’re motivated enough and interested enough in doing something highly cerebral.
I’ll tell you what I do know. A lot of the psychology behind it is spot on and has impressed me a great deal more than the academic fields of psychology and psychiatry. A lot of it we already know(mostly subconsciously). That said the MRA internet scene is a hotbed of losers, freaks, wife/gf beaters, mysogynists and mental patients. But that’s to be expected.
Now you’re being silly. Look at the attached picture. Say she’s on unemployment benefits and is semi-literate. Is she of equal value as a potential mate to some girl who looks like a supermodel and is a motivated career woman? That’s what I mean by high or low value. I’m sure you understand.
I don’t know anything about sliding scales but when anyone, male or female, is looking for a potential mate they are looking for as high a value partner as possible.