Wait… but I thought Muslims were trained from birth to hate us and wish to blow us up for the glory of God?
They’re LOSING their recruiting power!!! Could it be??? Moderate Muslims exist!!!
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Wait… but I thought Muslims were trained from birth to hate us and wish to blow us up for the glory of God?
They’re LOSING their recruiting power!!! Could it be??? Moderate Muslims exist!!![/quote]
Moderate muslims? I thought the discussion was about other Islamists breaking away from Al Qaeda because of their targeting of other muslims. They didn’t turn away because they killed Americans. At least I’m not seeing any such thing from the links. Had Al Qaeda played nice with the locals, instead of trying to run the show…
[quote]orion wrote:
I mean, we would have 3000000 troops or so, but having read European newspapers, I know that they will never ever be sent to Afghanistan.
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Nor any other war ever because your military and your whole entire society’s existence is due to our grandparents “saving” you from your born and bred Fuhrer.
You and Austria’s piece-of-shit military can thank us now or anytime you feel like taking off your socks and sandals.
Enjoy that Turkish Sharia Law, by the way.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
orion wrote:
I mean, we would have 3000000 troops or so, but having read European newspapers, I know that they will never ever be sent to Afghanistan.
Nor any other war ever because your military and your whole entire society’s existence is due to our grandparents “saving” you from your born and bred Fuhrer.
You and Austria’s piece-of-shit military can thank us now or anytime you feel like taking off your socks and sandals.
Enjoy that Turkish Sharia Law, by the way.
Very well said.
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Not really…
Oil is our weapon too! If you flood a country with money, the people get so busy spending it and having a good time, they have less and less desire to go strap on a vest and walk into a pet bazaar or day care center.
You are reading too much into this BB. The article didn’t say that muslims are upset that Americans, Europeans, Australians, etc… have been blown to pieces. They are only upset that muslims who they consider to be innocent have been blown up.
The bottom line is this is only a temporary public relations problem. As Soon as AQ scores with another big hit on the west their status as muslim heroes will be restored.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Then we have the fact that terrorists are out to die. [/quote]
You seem to be one of a small group here who bitches when we kill them.
If they are out to die, then they deserve what they get.
[quote]orion wrote:
They cannot lose. No one expects them to “win” against the US.
As long as they exist and keep on fighting, they defy the Great Satan.
And they will continue to do that for a long time, both in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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We do not have to win either.
We have to stop the terrorists’ actions, arrest or kill them.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Oil is our weapon too! If you flood a country with money, the people get so busy spending it and having a good time, they have less and less desire to go strap on a vest and walk into a pet bazaar or day care center.[/quote]
and if all else fails, carpet bomb the oil wells. That would be the equivalent of an American suicide bombing.
in a physical sense,yes we can and will win because we are stronger. however,look how long these people have lived this way. we are trying to change a belief system,we are trying to change an entire culture.
thats how they see it and personally if someone came into your home and told you “ok,guys here is your new rules you either live this way and let us watch you or we will hurt you”. what would you do.
I mean this is a problem that has been going on for a long time and it will be going on for a long time to come,I dont care what anyone says we are in for the long haul.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
orion wrote:
I mean, we would have 3000000 troops or so, but having read European newspapers, I know that they will never ever be sent to Afghanistan.
Nor any other war ever because your military and your whole entire society’s existence is due to our grandparents “saving” you from your born and bred Fuhrer.
You and Austria’s piece-of-shit military can thank us now or anytime you feel like taking off your socks and sandals.
Enjoy that Turkish Sharia Law, by the way.
Very well said.
Not really…[/quote]
Reading comprehension and historical facts fail…
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
orion wrote:
They cannot lose. No one expects them to “win” against the US.
As long as they exist and keep on fighting, they defy the Great Satan.
And they will continue to do that for a long time, both in Afghanistan and Iraq.
We do not have to win either.
We have to stop the terrorists’ actions, arrest or kill them.[/quote]
I agree, but that is not what you are doing.
You started two wars and if the Mujaheddin win against the US after the scored against the SU they will be Islamic demi-gods and America will have much less influence in that region.
So you unnecessarily set yourself up for epic failure and that is why all your politicians are weaseling around this issue because nobody wants to tell the public.
[quote]gatesoftanhauser wrote:
orion wrote:
I mean, we would have 3000000 troops or so, but having read European newspapers, I know that they will never ever be sent to Afghanistan.
Nor any other war ever because your military and your whole entire society’s existence is due to our grandparents “saving” you from your born and bred Fuhrer.
You and Austria’s piece-of-shit military can thank us now or anytime you feel like taking off your socks and sandals.
Enjoy that Turkish Sharia Law, by the way.
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Thank you for making a war that was over, last two years longer.
Thank you for the revolutions in Europe that made possible, including the Russian revolution and the hundred of thousands that died in vain in the trenches.
Thank you for one of the worst “peace” treaties in the history of mankind.
Thank you for ending a 1000 year old empire.
Thank you for starting a world wide economic crisis, that, along with all the other things you did for us, helped Hitler to cease power.
Thank you for setting our house on fire and then bragging for 50 years that you put that fire out after around 50 million had died.
Thank you.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
orion wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
orion wrote:
Thank you for starting a world wide economic crisis, that, along with all the other things you did for us, helped Hitler to cease power.
He he he.
You forgot, “Thank you for making us learn English, which, every time I try to use to express myself, I advertise what a dickhead I am.”
(Bonus: Note how accurately your tortured writing style has also been captured!)[/quote]
Given your limited mental capacity I´d rather thank the gods that you were never forced to learn German.
Anyway, you bring up excellent points, as always.
[quote]hedo wrote:
lixy wrote:
What is this? Kindergarten?
Al-Qaeda is the greatest winner of the Bush Doctrine and arguable the main beneficiary of the war on Iraq (some say it’s Iran).
In case nobody is paying attention, allow me to tell you what these terrorists are after. They’re out to instill fear in people and eventually lose their life. On the first task, they have undeniably succeeded. People are still hysterical at the mentioning of 9/11, and we all saw what irrationalities that fear facilitated. A country was bombed and invaded and support behind those actions was firm in the USA. Air travel has become a chance one takes. Between the insane number of people on no-fly lists, and the regulations whereby you’re forbidden to take toothpaste onto the plane, the fear is very palpable. Another evidence is the existence of Gitmo, where people are held indeterminately without charges, and which earned the US a place with the most infamous regimes in the world.
Then we have the fact that terrorists are out to die. And just how do you “win” over a terrorist organization that has been recruiting hand over fist ever since the first bomb hit Baghdad. It is beyond naive to think that, with the current policy the US has, their supplies will dry out. Radicalism has rarely been healthier.
P.S: I am not sure about the extent to which the war on Iraq has pulled the dollar down, but you can be quite certain that Al-Qaeda is claiming credit for it. But don’t look for that story in The New Yorker…
If it was kindergarten the other kids would buy your analysis.
You know less about this issue then you do about weight training.
You guys lost. Get over it. Nobody is afraid except the holdouts waiting for a JDAM to drop in on them.
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Does he even lift weights?
[quote]orion wrote:
hedo wrote:
orion wrote:
hedo wrote:
lixy wrote:
What is this? Kindergarten?
Al-Qaeda is the greatest winner of the Bush Doctrine and arguable the main beneficiary of the war on Iraq (some say it’s Iran).
In case nobody is paying attention, allow me to tell you what these terrorists are after. They’re out to instill fear in people and eventually lose their life. On the first task, they have undeniably succeeded. People are still hysterical at the mentioning of 9/11, and we all saw what irrationalities that fear facilitated. A country was bombed and invaded and support behind those actions was firm in the USA. Air travel has become a chance one takes. Between the insane number of people on no-fly lists, and the regulations whereby you’re forbidden to take toothpaste onto the plane, the fear is very palpable. Another evidence is the existence of Gitmo, where people are held indeterminately without charges, and which earned the US a place with the most infamous regimes in the world.
Then we have the fact that terrorists are out to die. And just how do you “win” over a terrorist organization that has been recruiting hand over fist ever since the first bomb hit Baghdad. It is beyond naive to think that, with the current policy the US has, their supplies will dry out. Radicalism has rarely been healthier.
P.S: I am not sure about the extent to which the war on Iraq has pulled the dollar down, but you can be quite certain that Al-Qaeda is claiming credit for it. But don’t look for that story in The New Yorker…
If it was kindergarten the other kids would buy your analysis.
You know less about this issue then you do about weight training.
You guys lost. Get over it. Nobody is afraid except the holdouts waiting for a JDAM to drop in on them.
You do not get it, do you?
They cannot lose. No one expects them to “win” against the US.
As long as they exist and keep on fighting, they defy the Great Satan.
And they will continue to do that for a long time, both in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The US on the other side must win in order not to lose face in the ME and does not have the military or the will to do so.
Read a non European Newspaper. You are about two years behind.
I get it. You don’t have the ability to process information you don’t agree with. (see the BB supp thread you got smacked around on)
I thought it was the US military claiming that they needed 400000 soldiers to take care of Afghanistan?
Do you have those?
Are you willing to draft as many as it takes and send them over there?
I think my point still stands.
I mean, we would have 3000000 troops or so, but having read European newspapers, I know that they will never ever be sent to Afghanistan.
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Do the German even carry guns in Afganistan. Aren’t they in charge of tea and sweets or some other vital military function.
Where does the 400,000 number come from? Please cite a source.
[quote]orion wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
orion wrote:
I mean, we would have 3000000 troops or so, but having read European newspapers, I know that they will never ever be sent to Afghanistan.
Nor any other war ever because your military and your whole entire society’s existence is due to our grandparents “saving” you from your born and bred Fuhrer.
You and Austria’s piece-of-shit military can thank us now or anytime you feel like taking off your socks and sandals.
Enjoy that Turkish Sharia Law, by the way.
Thank you for making a war that was over, last two years longer.
Thank you for the revolutions in Europe that made possible, including the Russian revolution and the hundred of thousands that died in vain in the trenches.
Thank you for one of the worst “peace” treaties in the history of mankind.
Thank you for ending a 1000 year old empire.
Thank you for starting a world wide economic crisis, that, along with all the other things you did for us, helped Hitler to cease power.
Thank you for setting our house on fire and then bragging for 50 years that you put that fire out after around 50 million had died.
Thank you.
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Now I have seen everything. Now you are going to blame French vindictiveness at Versailles on the US and now you Nazi’s are tyring to say that Hitler wasn’t your fault, it was the US. That is total bullshit. We should have dropped more bombs on you fuckers.