Abortion - No Matter What

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

A good opinion against the bozo notion that we should kill the unborn less they enter this world in poverty.[/quote]

I think that this is an interesting counterpoint to the article you’ve posted.
http://scholar.harvard.edu/barro/files/99_0927_crimerate_bw.pdf[/quote]

Do you understand that this idea swims into some seriously dangerous, shark infested waters?

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No, I don’t think it does. It does provide some indication that what the pro-abortion crowd has been saying holds water.

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It’s a rationalization for murder. Cold blooded murder.

Certain places in 1930’s Europe did similar type rationalizing to justify its hideous ideas and practices.

The slippery slope has already delivered dozens of millions of innocents over the past 50 years into the gaping jaws of “practicality” and “utility.” It has happened just not to the neutron bomb degree. Yet.
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Just keep beatin’ that fallacy drum.[/quote]

Your “As long as we’re nailing a few future bad apples it’s OK to vaporize the whole barrel” drum playing is off beat but nonetheless annoyingly loud in and of itself.[/quote]

I’m beating no drum. I posted my link as a counterpoint to your link then you went off on a slippery slope tangent rather than address the information presented in the link directly. I don’t think that the author is of the opinion that abortion must be used to control crime as you so eloquently concluded but rather that there does appear to be an association with legalized abortion and a dramatically reduced crime rate.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

I’m beating no drum. I posted my link as a counterpoint to your link then you went off on a slippery slope tangent rather than address the information presented in the link directly. I don’t think that the author is of the opinion that abortion must be used to control crime as you so eloquently concluded but rather that there does appear to be an association with legalized abortion and a dramatically reduced crime rate.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation[/quote]

Gee you’re on top of it. I bet those Stanford and Harvard guys never thought of that.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and in case you’re wondering why Scandinavia seems to have more than its fair share of intelligent, beautiful people living in comparatively safe, well-run societies?

Eugenics, baby. Lots of eugenics.

Not saying it’s a good thing, but the results do kinda speak for themselves… in Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and in excellent, educated English. [/quote]

Aren’t they getting over run with Muslims?

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and in case you’re wondering why Scandinavia seems to have more than its fair share of intelligent, beautiful people living in comparatively safe, well-run societies?

Eugenics, baby. Lots of eugenics.

Not saying it’s a good thing, but the results do kinda speak for themselves… in Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and in excellent, educated English. [/quote]

They don’t age well though.

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[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I could argue the opposite. Convincingly.[/quote]

I would love to hear it. I’m always looking to learn![/quote]

Sigh, another argument for moral relativity. It’s a defunct argument. Basically, claiming that it’s ok if enough people approve of it. Evil causes harm, whether or not anybody approves of it. Causing suffering or death by popular vote is not ok, by the mere fact that it’s popular.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and in case you’re wondering why Scandinavia seems to have more than its fair share of intelligent, beautiful people living in comparatively safe, well-run societies?

Eugenics, baby. Lots of eugenics.

Not saying it’s a good thing, but the results do kinda speak for themselves… in Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and in excellent, educated English. [/quote]

Aren’t they getting over run with Muslims?[/quote]

Exactly in the same way that the United States is getting “over run” with blacks. They’re highly visible, and they don’t assimilate readily into mainstream culture, so any act of violence committed by a member of the community makes the news, but in fact they are a tiny percentage of the population.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and in case you’re wondering why Scandinavia seems to have more than its fair share of intelligent, beautiful people living in comparatively safe, well-run societies?

Eugenics, baby. Lots of eugenics.

Not saying it’s a good thing, but the results do kinda speak for themselves… in Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and in excellent, educated English. [/quote]

Aren’t they getting over run with Muslims?[/quote]

Exactly in the same way that the United States is getting “over run” with blacks. They’re highly visible, and they don’t assimilate readily into mainstream culture, so any act of violence committed by a member of the community makes the news, but in fact they are a tiny percentage of the population. [/quote]

Espenl seems to think differently and he lives in one of those countries. He sees them starting to increase in percentage like 20%. I have not seen him on here in a while. I hope he is doing alright with his new baby.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and in case you’re wondering why Scandinavia seems to have more than its fair share of intelligent, beautiful people living in comparatively safe, well-run societies?

Eugenics, baby. Lots of eugenics.

Not saying it’s a good thing, but the results do kinda speak for themselves… in Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and in excellent, educated English. [/quote]

They don’t age well though. [/quote]

Yeah, Ingrid Bergman and Greta Garbo ended up being real dogs in their later years. And Stellan Skarsgard? Forget it. He’s aged miserably. I’d hate to look like him at 62.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and in case you’re wondering why Scandinavia seems to have more than its fair share of intelligent, beautiful people living in comparatively safe, well-run societies?

Eugenics, baby. Lots of eugenics.

Not saying it’s a good thing, but the results do kinda speak for themselves… in Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and in excellent, educated English. [/quote]

Aren’t they getting over run with Muslims?[/quote]

Exactly in the same way that the United States is getting “over run” with blacks. They’re highly visible, and they don’t assimilate readily into mainstream culture, so any act of violence committed by a member of the community makes the news, but in fact they are a tiny percentage of the population. [/quote]

Espenl seems to think differently and he lives in one of those countries. He sees them starting to increase in percentage like 20%. I have not seen him on here in a while. I hope he is doing alright with his new baby.
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Poppycock.

Muslims account for between 2 and 5 percent of the populations of Denmark, Norway and Sweden, and that’s counting the ones who are non-practicing. This is about on par with the Mormons in the US. Nobody’s afraid of the Mormons in this country, even though they have a religion extremely similar to the Muslims, and a hell of a lot more guns, because the Mormons haven’t had a good jihad in over 150 years, and for the most part they’re not brown.

What is the black percentage of the American population? Something like 12 or 15 percent?

I’d like to hear more about Espenl’s situation. If he lives in downtown Oslo on Akebergveien, right across the street from the World Islamic Mission, then yeah, I can see where he might get the impression that his world is being overrun by those scary hajjis.

The way ConservativeDog might feel if he woke up one morning and found that he was living in Compton.

But really, if one were to drive for a couple hours from Oslo, Stockholm, or Copenhagen, there would likely be no Muslims as far as the eye could see.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and in case you’re wondering why Scandinavia seems to have more than its fair share of intelligent, beautiful people living in comparatively safe, well-run societies?

Eugenics, baby. Lots of eugenics.

Not saying it’s a good thing, but the results do kinda speak for themselves… in Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and in excellent, educated English. [/quote]

Aren’t they getting over run with Muslims?[/quote]

Exactly in the same way that the United States is getting “over run” with blacks. They’re highly visible, and they don’t assimilate readily into mainstream culture, so any act of violence committed by a member of the community makes the news, but in fact they are a tiny percentage of the population. [/quote]

I’m thinking you pulled this one out of your “Wannabe” facts barrel or your “shoot from the hip” file.

I’ve read and heard differently.[/quote]

You have read and heard differently than what precisely? That both Muslims and blacks are highly visibly, that they don’t assimilate well into mainstream white culture, that acts of violence perpetrated by their communities makes the news, or that they constitute a tiny percentage of their respective countries’ populations?

Please cite your sources.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and in case you’re wondering why Scandinavia seems to have more than its fair share of intelligent, beautiful people living in comparatively safe, well-run societies?

Eugenics, baby. Lots of eugenics.

Not saying it’s a good thing, but the results do kinda speak for themselves… in Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and in excellent, educated English. [/quote]

Aren’t they getting over run with Muslims?[/quote]

What do you consider as over run? I’m not sure any of those countries even have more than 5% and are still below the European average which is expected because they are furthest away from the origins.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and in case you’re wondering why Scandinavia seems to have more than its fair share of intelligent, beautiful people living in comparatively safe, well-run societies?

Eugenics, baby. Lots of eugenics.

Not saying it’s a good thing, but the results do kinda speak for themselves… in Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and in excellent, educated English. [/quote]

Aren’t they getting over run with Muslims?[/quote]

Exactly in the same way that the United States is getting “over run” with blacks. They’re highly visible, and they don’t assimilate readily into mainstream culture, so any act of violence committed by a member of the community makes the news, but in fact they are a tiny percentage of the population. [/quote]

I’m thinking you pulled this one out of your “Wannabe” facts barrel or your “shoot from the hip” file.

I’ve read and heard differently.[/quote]

You have read and heard differently than what precisely? That both Muslims and blacks are highly visibly, that they don’t assimilate well into mainstream white culture, that acts of violence perpetrated by their communities makes the news, or that they constitute a tiny percentage of their respective countries’ populations?

Please cite your sources.
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How many years of Muslim terrorist attacks do you have to add up in Scandinavia to equal the deaths from a single incident from 2 years ago by a single Christian?

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and in case you’re wondering why Scandinavia seems to have more than its fair share of intelligent, beautiful people living in comparatively safe, well-run societies?

Eugenics, baby. Lots of eugenics.

Not saying it’s a good thing, but the results do kinda speak for themselves… in Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and in excellent, educated English. [/quote]

Aren’t they getting over run with Muslims?[/quote]

Exactly in the same way that the United States is getting “over run” with blacks. They’re highly visible, and they don’t assimilate readily into mainstream culture, so any act of violence committed by a member of the community makes the news, but in fact they are a tiny percentage of the population. [/quote]

I’m thinking you pulled this one out of your “Wannabe” facts barrel or your “shoot from the hip” file.

I’ve read and heard differently.[/quote]

You have read and heard differently than what precisely? That both Muslims and blacks are highly visibly, that they don’t assimilate well into mainstream white culture, that acts of violence perpetrated by their communities makes the news, or that they constitute a tiny percentage of their respective countries’ populations?

Please cite your sources.
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How many years of Muslim terrorist attacks do you have to add up in Scandinavia to equal the deaths from a single incident from 2 years ago by a single Christian?[/quote]

No, no, no. You cannot compare the two. Breivik probably wasn’t a “real” Christian, and he didn’t carry out his attack in the name of Christianity.

He was just a good ol’ Norwegian boy who jist didn’t take kindly to them goldurn ragheads invading “his” country.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Oh, and in case you’re wondering why Scandinavia seems to have more than its fair share of intelligent, beautiful people living in comparatively safe, well-run societies?

Eugenics, baby. Lots of eugenics.

Not saying it’s a good thing, but the results do kinda speak for themselves… in Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and in excellent, educated English. [/quote]

They don’t age well though. [/quote]

Yeah, Ingrid Bergman and Greta Garbo ended up being real dogs in their later years. And Stellan Skarsgard? Forget it. He’s aged miserably. I’d hate to look like him at 62. [/quote]

Yeah because everybody looks like them and has the money to get fixed.