Happy to say that my propaganda is [i]NOTHING[/i] but truth, verified with science and logic.
Wonder why the choice(pro-death) side can never make that claim.
Thousands of pills filled with powdered human baby flesh discovered by customs officials in South Korea
By Richard Shears and Rob Cooper PUBLISHED: 05:44 EST, 7 May 2012 |
- More than 17,000 pills smuggled into country have been intercepted since last August
- Pills viewed as a ‘miracle cure’ for all ailments - but unsurprisingly they are harmful
Thousands of pills filled with powdered human flesh have been discovered by customs officials in South Korea, it was revealed today.
The capsules are in demand because they are viewed as being a medicinal ‘cure-all’.
The grim trade is being run from China where corrupt medical staff are said to be tipping off medical companies when babies are aborted or delivered still-born.
picture Dead baby pills: This is ground baby powder which tests discovered is 99.7 per cent human last year. South Korean officials have stopped 17,000 dead baby pills being imported since last August
The tiny corpses are then bought, stored in household refrigerators in homes of those involved in the trade before they are removed and taken to clinics where they are placed in medical drying microwaves.
Once the skin is tinder dry, it is pummelled into powder and then processed into capsules along with herbs to disguise the true ingredients from health investigators and customs officers.
The discoveries since last August has shocked even hardened customs agents who have pledged to strengthen inspections.
Chinese officials are understood to have been aware of the trade and have tried to stop the capsules being exported but thousands of packets of them have been smuggled through to South Korea.
There is a huge demand for alternative Chinese remedies - which include ground up rhino horns.
The Chinese have historically consumed human placentas to improve blood supply and circulation.
Health authorities in Asia are concerned that if the powdered foetus trade is allowed to continue the capsules will find their way onto the internet and be sold to gullible or sick desperate people in other parts of the world.
The South Korean Customs Service said today that it had heightened its searches of suspicious packages being brought into the country by travellers from China in an attempt to stamp out the sickening trade.
According to customs agents, 35 smuggling attempts have been made since August last year involving more than 17,000 capsules disguised as ‘stamina boosters’.
Hospitals and abortion clinics in China reportedly pass the remains onto drugs companies when a baby is stillborn or aborted, the South Korean SBS documentary team reported last year.
The San Francisco Times reported that tests carried out on the pills confirmed they were made up of 99.7 per cent human remains.
The tests were successfully able to establish the genders of the babies used.
There is a huge demand for the pills which are thought to enhance stamina. Microwave-dried placenta is also sought after for its alleged ‘medicinal’ benefits.
However, in reality the human flesh capsules contain super-bacteria and other harmful ingredients.
A number of smugglers who have been detained by the South Korean authorities have claimed they did not know what the ingredients were or the manufacturing process behind them.
‘Ethnic Koreans from north-east China who now live in South Korea are those who were mostly intending to use the capsules or share them with other Korean-Chinese’ said a customs official.
‘They are normally brought into South Korea in luggage or posted by international mail.’
The capsules were all confiscated but no one has been punished because the amount was deemed small and they were not intended for sale, a customs official added.
Chinese newspapers have identified the north eastern provinces as the source of the human flesh capsules, in particular the Jilin region which is close to North Korea.
There have been disturbing reports that some babies were those who had perished in China’s notorious ‘dying rooms’ where youngsters are deliberately left to die because they were born into families that already had the limit of one child in country areas.
In order to keep its population down, China performs 13 million abortions a year - mainly because mothers sacrifice their newborns to avoid punishment such as severe fines or even a beating by the authorities.
The Chinese authorities have confirmed that 38 per cent of women of child-bearing age have been sterilised - but the babies that are aborted do not go to waste because of the sickening trade in using their corpses for purported medicinal purposes.
Despite their disgust at discovering packets of the so-called rejuvenation pills being brought in from China, South Korean officials have refused to confirm where the babies came from or who made the capsules.
Sources said this was because they were not prepared to create diplomatic friction with Beijing, preferring to leave it to Chinese officials to do something about the horrific trade in powdered babies.
There is an imbedded video on the site page.
‘A pregnant woman went to her gynecologist’: the pro-life story that went viral
by John Jalsevac Thu May 03, 2012
You’ve probably seen it, but if you haven’t here it is: the following story has gone viral on social networking sites, spreading a simple, but powerful pro-life message wherever it goes. It is presumably a fictitious story, but packs a powerful punch in a short space. Its lesson is simple: that there is no major difference between a baby outside the womb and a baby inside the womb, but whereas most women would recoil from killing their newborn, they have been conditioned to believe that killing the child inside the sanctuary of the womb is perfectly ok. Sometimes it takes little more than a gentle push for them to realize that this belief is a belief based upon convenience and not truth, and must be reexamined.
Do you think that this story is convincing for people who may be pro-choice, or sitting on the fence?
A worried woman went to her gynecologist and said:
“Doctor, I have a serious problem and desperately need your help! My baby is not even one year old, and I’m pregnant again. I don’t want kids so close together.”
So the doctor said: “Okay, and what do you want me to do?”
She said: “I want you to end my pregnancy, and I’m counting on your help with this.”
The doctor thought for a little, and after some silence, he said to the lady: “I think I have a better solution for your problem. It’s less dangerous for you, too.”
She smiled, thinking that the doctor was going to accept her request.
Then he continued: “You see, in order for you not to have to take care of two babies at the same time, let’s kill the one in your arms. This way, you could rest some before the other one is born. If we’re going to kill one of them, it doesn’t matter which one it is. There would be no risk for your body if you chose the one in your arms.”
The lady was horrified and said: “No, doctor! How terrible! It’s a crime to kill a child!”
“I agree,” the doctor replied. “But you seemed to be okay with it, so I thought maybe that was the best solution.”
The doctor smiled, realizing that he had made his point.
He convinced the mom that there is no difference between killing a child that’s already been born and killing one that’s still in the womb. The crime is the same!
If you agree, please SHARE.
Amazing story that the pro-death posters on these boards need to read. Their very own arguments are used in this story.
I am a survivor: born into addiction and poverty, but grateful to be alive
by Anya Murray Wed May 09, 2012
May 9, 2012 (www.sjatoday.org) â?? Sharing my story might make some angry. Maybe it will make some feel uncomfortable, while even hurting others. I learned very early on in my life that I was not put on this earth to make people feel comfortable. Between being born into teenage pregnancy and poverty, and later becoming an orphan due to alcohol and drug abuse, I have always had a bit of uncomfortableness around me. So why stop now?
One young girl, one unborn baby, and one very important, life-changing decision are where my story begins. The young girl does not know what to do. Her world is crumbling into pieces. She is fifteen years old, and her boyfriend just broke up with her. She just found out she is two months pregnant. She is overcome with fear for her future, and her heart is heavy. She asks herself, what will people think of her when they find out she is pregnant? What will her parentsâ?? reaction be?
All the fears cause her to consider having an abortion.
To make things even worse, the fifteen-year-old girlâ??s family is very poor and cannot afford having another mouth to feed. Her parents are alcoholics, and family life is already very difficult. She is afraid she may be kicked out of her home if she were to decide to keep the baby, and she is no longer in a relationship with the father of her baby. She wonders if she will ever find another boyfriend if she has a child. She is still in school. The thoughts of having her whole future still ahead of her and how a baby will hold her back are paralyzing.
The fifteen-year-old described in this story chose life for her unborn baby. I will be forever grateful of that decision, because she was pregnant with me.
Life was not always easy for me growing up with a teenage mother, who later became a drug addict and alcoholic. Yet, I always knew I was loved. When my birth mother was not able to care for me, God always did. She died by the time I was nine years old from a drug overdose. She was 25.
Oftentimes, pro-choice supporters make statements like, â??You do not know what it is like to grow up in poverty or with alcoholic parents,â?? or â??No child would want to be born into poverty or into a family of alcoholics.â?? Well, I have lived that life, and, I must admit, if given the choice of having a family with money and no addiction versus the life I had, I would probably choose the first option. But, if given the choice between the life I had and that of a death sentence, I would choose the life I had.
Even though I grew up in a poor family that suffered from addiction, I never felt like I did not want to live. I actually never knew my life was that difficult or that my family was poor, because I did not know any different. Being a child of a poor family and of an addict did not define me, nor did it make my life any less valuable than anyone who may be reading this story.
Three years to the day after my birth motherâ??s death, I sat in a Russian courthouse. A Russian judge approved my adoption into my American family. I soon moved to the United States and now, five years later, I am a senior in high school, with a 3.2 GPA. I have just been accepted into college where I will study to become a registered nurse.
My future is bright, and my life is amazing, all because of one fifteen-year-oldâ??s brave decision to choose life for me.
When I reflect on what my Russian birth mother must have been going through, and think about all the arguments people of pro-choice opinion give for a girl to have an abortion, I am faced with the realization that I am 90 percent of those reasons. Consider the fact that currently in Russia there are more abortions than live births; that definitely makes me a survivor, a person with a purpose. What that purpose is at the moment, I am not sure, but for today, it was to share my story.
pulled from - http://www.sjatoday.org/2011/03/one-young-girl-one-unborn-baby-and-one-very-important-life-changing-decision/
When the “choice” is that to deliberately kill a defenseless human being at their most vulnerable stage of life, then yes, I am completely, unabashedly, 100% anti-choice.
Pulled from a fb feed on “Let’s find 1,000,000 people against Abortion”
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Please remind me tigger how your opinion even matters? Unless you want to try and justify their slaughter again. Or tell me they are not alive. Those are pretty much your only two choices. Unless you go for the mother gets a second option on her choices.
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
I was wondering just how the Hell this thread has managed to stay out of the crypt. Now I see that this is just a matter of this thread’s mama going nuts with the defibrillator.
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As appealing as an extended conversation with you sounds, I’m gunna pass this time.
But hey, if I suddenly feel the urge to experience the equivalent of grinding the tip of my dick down the grip tape of a skateboard, I’ll drop you a line.
I knew you could provide no real reason to kill a person, namely the unborn. You could tell me that ‘the law allows for it, therefore it has to be justifiable.’ However, you are afraid of defending your pro-death position, probably because you have no spine.
Thanks for providing nothing and just adding to my thread count ; )
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
As appealing as an extended conversation with you sounds, I’m gunna pass this time.
But hey, if I suddenly feel the urge to experience the equivalent of grinding the tip of my dick down the grip tape of a skateboard, I’ll drop you a line. [/quote]
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:<<< I don’t like this nation as founded. There. I have no problem in saying it. >>>[/quote]I just now saw this months later. TigerTime has just gone up about 12 notches on my respectometer. I couldn’t mean anything more
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I just saw it earlier today as well.
I’d be interested in hearing him explain this a bit.
Also, TT, are you an American, yourself? I’ve never seen you say and I get a vague (but not complete) impression that you are not. [/quote]
Bumped as TT appears to be reading this again and I’m pretty sure you missed it buried under all those other posts.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:<<< I don’t like this nation as founded. There. I have no problem in saying it. >>>[/quote]I just now saw this months later. TigerTime has just gone up about 12 notches on my respectometer. I couldn’t mean anything more
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I just saw it earlier today as well.
I’d be interested in hearing him explain this a bit.
Also, TT, are you an American, yourself? I’ve never seen you say and I get a vague (but not complete) impression that you are not. [/quote]
Bumped as TT appears to be reading this again and I’m pretty sure you missed it buried under all those other posts. [/quote]
Not much to say, I just don’t think democracy is a particularly good system. Some problems here:
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Rational ignorance: You only have one vote and that vote doesn’t mean much, so there’s not much practical incentive to spend hours reading up on each candidates policies and history, etc. because this lack of incentive is virtually universal, you end up with a population that doesn’t care much about politics and people start basing their choices off of stupid shit like which candidate has the hottest wife.
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Package deals: Your only choice is between platforms that have a shot at winning and these platforms contain far too many issues (really, all of them) so you can’t truly vote for what you want. In the case of bills, bills get stuffed with hundreds to thousands of pages worth of additional nonsense that no rational citizen could possibly care to read through. Most people don’t agree 100% with any candidate, so what you’re really doing is merely voting for the candidate you disagree with the least, which brings me to point 3…
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Voting against, not for: Even in a system with dozens of parties, you always end up with only a couple of big parties that get shuffled in and out of power. This is because people take note of past election results and typically, everyone who voted for a candidate that came third or less will ditch their candidate next time around out of fear of wasting their vote and instead vote for which of the top two candidates they disagree with the least. This way, even if they really aren’t getting what they want, at least they can help ensure the guy they really hate doesn’t come into power.
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Voting wars: group A wants group B’s stuff, so they vote themselves group B’s stuff. This pretty much cluster fucks the whole system as this transforms elections from a competition of ideas to finding ways to use the system as a justification for theft. The result is, candidates can win not because they exhibit any real prowess in economics, but because their platform was basically “vote for me and you won’t lose your shit to these guys!”/“Vote for me and you’ll get more stuff!”. It is in this way that democracy actually subsidizes stupidity. You have 5 kids and no savings? No problem! Go on welfare and vote yourself the money of couples who took time to save up enough money to properly raise their kids! << through democracy, you’ve disincentivised responsible parenting and incentivised irresponsible parenting. Not surprisingly, voting wars is where a lot of racial tension escalates.
To be completely honest, I see no reason why a government is needed at all, but if you must have one, I’d go with a meritocracy.
This is my one post off-topic, in this thread. TT you can start your own thread. Do not worry Cortes, TT is some little boy from Canada and I laugh as he attempts to use what he calls “logic.” The best part, TT thinks we have a “democracy” jaa jaa jaa! Here is your homework TT, please quote our government in the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence or even any one of the fifty states’ Constitutions where the word ‘Democracy’ is used, even one time. Please spend hours doing research and don’t use the internet for your leg work. You know, its a conspiracy we have against our neighbors to the north. Looking for answers will do nothing but prove that you are all knowing and your logic is without falter.
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People who think like you are the ones who stay home and never vote so their voice never means anything. That is a great thing about our government, our voices count as much as we want them to.
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Our current system has flaws but it is still something I would take over any other government system, in the entire world.
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Speculate much?
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Here in lies the problem with the government he describes, at its root lies a monarchy. TT needs to look up the term because he most likely does not even understand its implications.
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
Not much to say, I just don’t think democracy is a particularly good system. Some problems here:
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Rational ignorance: You only have one vote and that vote doesn’t mean much, so there’s not much practical incentive to spend hours reading up on each candidates policies and history, etc. because this lack of incentive is virtually universal, you end up with a population that doesn’t care much about politics and people start basing their choices off of stupid shit like which candidate has the hottest wife.
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Package deals: Your only choice is between platforms that have a shot at winning and these platforms contain far too many issues (really, all of them) so you can’t truly vote for what you want. In the case of bills, bills get stuffed with hundreds to thousands of pages worth of additional nonsense that no rational citizen could possibly care to read through. Most people don’t agree 100% with any candidate, so what you’re really doing is merely voting for the candidate you disagree with the least, which brings me to point 3…
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Voting against, not for: Even in a system with dozens of parties, you always end up with only a couple of big parties that get shuffled in and out of power. This is because people take note of past election results and typically, everyone who voted for a candidate that came third or less will ditch their candidate next time around out of fear of wasting their vote and instead vote for which of the top two candidates they disagree with the least. This way, even if they really aren’t getting what they want, at least they can help ensure the guy they really hate doesn’t come into power.
-
Voting wars: group A wants group B’s stuff, so they vote themselves group B’s stuff. This pretty much cluster fucks the whole system as this transforms elections from a competition of ideas to finding ways to use the system as a justification for theft. The result is, candidates can win not because they exhibit any real prowess in economics, but because their platform was basically “vote for me and you won’t lose your shit to these guys!”/“Vote for me and you’ll get more stuff!”. It is in this way that democracy actually subsidizes stupidity. You have 5 kids and no savings? No problem! Go on welfare and vote yourself the money of couples who took time to save up enough money to properly raise their kids! << through democracy, you’ve disincentivised responsible parenting and incentivised irresponsible parenting. Not surprisingly, voting wars is where a lot of racial tension escalates.
To be completely honest, I see no reason why a government is needed at all, but if you must have one, I’d go with a meritocracy. [/quote]
I DID see this post previously. I was just amazed that Trib says that his respect has gone up for TT. WTF?!? Is he sharing wacky tobacco with him? America is the greatest country in the history of the world! I thought Trib was all about America’s history, he used to have the link to that growing web site with Beck’s show on it. But I guess he is changing his tune shrug
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:<<< I don’t like this nation as founded. There. I have no problem in saying it. >>>[/quote]I just now saw this months later. TigerTime has just gone up about 12 notches on my respectometer. I couldn’t mean anything more
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I just saw it earlier today as well.
I’d be interested in hearing him explain this a bit.
Also, TT, are you an American, yourself? I’ve never seen you say and I get a vague (but not complete) impression that you are not. [/quote]
Bumped as TT appears to be reading this again and I’m pretty sure you missed it buried under all those other posts. [/quote]
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
I DID see this post previously. I was just amazed that Trib says that his respect has gone up for TT. WTF?!? Is he sharing wacky tobacco with him? America is the greatest country in the history of the world! I thought Trib was all about America’s history, he used to have the link to that growing web site with Beck’s show on it. But I guess he is changing his tune shrug
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:<<< I don’t like this nation as founded. There. I have no problem in saying it. >>>[/quote]I just now saw this months later. TigerTime has just gone up about 12 notches on my respectometer. I couldn’t mean anything more
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I just saw it earlier today as well.
I’d be interested in hearing him explain this a bit.
Also, TT, are you an American, yourself? I’ve never seen you say and I get a vague (but not complete) impression that you are not. [/quote]
Bumped as TT appears to be reading this again and I’m pretty sure you missed it buried under all those other posts. [/quote]
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One would have to assume he respects TT for being honest.
Correct me if I’m wrong Tirib.
This thread is becoming Kneedragon personal blog, its quite sad.
Now TT needs to be rewarded for being honest? snicker TT supports killing defenseless children but Trib needs to reward him for being truthful, on an internet board? Awesome!
[quote]Makavali wrote:
One would have to assume he respects TT for being honest.
Correct me if I’m wrong Tirib.[/quote]
You are welcome to add your own contribution optheta. In fact I welcome your “contribution” if you would like to call it that.
[quote]optheta wrote:
This thread is becoming Kneedragon personal blog, its quite sad.[/quote]
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
You are welcome to add your own contribution optheta. In fact I welcome your “contribution” if you would like to call it that.
[quote]optheta wrote:
This thread is becoming Kneedragon personal blog, its quite sad.[/quote]
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its hard to even argue with a guy who posts the picture they did on the first page of this thread.
I can tell your mind is already shut, whats the point of even “contributing”.
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
America is the greatest country in the history of the world!
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I lold, then I cried because I remembered it was you…
So I was right? You have NOTHING to add. I shared a story shrug and to think otherwise is not even true. Where is TT and his honesty? I thought your bunch liked to use the same arguments.
Alright man, learn to type a dispute related to the thread topic and until then I denounce you to ignore status. You will know many people there ; )
[quote]optheta wrote:
its hard to even argue with a guy who posts the picture they did on the first page of this thread.
I can tell your mind is already shut, whats the point of even “contributing”.[/quote]
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
This is my one post off-topic, in this thread. TT you can start your own thread. Do not worry Cortes, TT is some little boy from Canada and I laugh as he attempts to use what he calls “logic.” The best part, TT thinks we have a “democracy” jaa jaa jaa! Here is your homework TT, please quote our government in the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence or even any one of the fifty states’ Constitutions where the word ‘Democracy’ is used, even one time. Please spend hours doing research and don’t use the internet for your leg work. You know, its a conspiracy we have against our neighbors to the north. Looking for answers will do nothing but prove that you are all knowing and your logic is without falter.
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People who think like you are the ones who stay home and never vote so their voice never means anything. That is a great thing about our government, our voices count as much as we want them to.
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Our current system has flaws but it is still something I would take over any other government system, in the entire world.
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Speculate much?
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Here in lies the problem with the government he describes, at its root lies a monarchy. TT needs to look up the term because he most likely does not even understand its implications.
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
Not much to say, I just don’t think democracy is a particularly good system. Some problems here:
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Rational ignorance: You only have one vote and that vote doesn’t mean much, so there’s not much practical incentive to spend hours reading up on each candidates policies and history, etc. because this lack of incentive is virtually universal, you end up with a population that doesn’t care much about politics and people start basing their choices off of stupid shit like which candidate has the hottest wife.
-
Package deals: Your only choice is between platforms that have a shot at winning and these platforms contain far too many issues (really, all of them) so you can’t truly vote for what you want. In the case of bills, bills get stuffed with hundreds to thousands of pages worth of additional nonsense that no rational citizen could possibly care to read through. Most people don’t agree 100% with any candidate, so what you’re really doing is merely voting for the candidate you disagree with the least, which brings me to point 3…
-
Voting against, not for: Even in a system with dozens of parties, you always end up with only a couple of big parties that get shuffled in and out of power. This is because people take note of past election results and typically, everyone who voted for a candidate that came third or less will ditch their candidate next time around out of fear of wasting their vote and instead vote for which of the top two candidates they disagree with the least. This way, even if they really aren’t getting what they want, at least they can help ensure the guy they really hate doesn’t come into power.
-
Voting wars: group A wants group B’s stuff, so they vote themselves group B’s stuff. This pretty much cluster fucks the whole system as this transforms elections from a competition of ideas to finding ways to use the system as a justification for theft. The result is, candidates can win not because they exhibit any real prowess in economics, but because their platform was basically “vote for me and you won’t lose your shit to these guys!”/“Vote for me and you’ll get more stuff!”. It is in this way that democracy actually subsidizes stupidity. You have 5 kids and no savings? No problem! Go on welfare and vote yourself the money of couples who took time to save up enough money to properly raise their kids! << through democracy, you’ve disincentivised responsible parenting and incentivised irresponsible parenting. Not surprisingly, voting wars is where a lot of racial tension escalates.
To be completely honest, I see no reason why a government is needed at all, but if you must have one, I’d go with a meritocracy. [/quote]
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A constitutional republic is a form of democracy, you hubristic mongoloid. ( Liberal democracy - Wikipedia )
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Absolutely absurd. This is an especially foolish thing to say in the U.S. given that it is an electoral college. Here, I’ve found you a video on the flaws with an electoral college. It uses lots of colours and large fonts, so I’m certain you’ll understand it.
The Trouble with the Electoral College - YouTube -
That’s not even an argument.
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Ironic, as this is actually my least speculative argument. It’s a universally observed phenomenon that, given enough time all FPTP voting systems result in a two party system.
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I have no idea WTF you’re talking about here.
Would not trade places with you in Canada, even if you gave me all the money in the world.
Do you have anything to add tigger? If not, you will join others on the ignore list.
I thought you were supposed to become more intelligent after a hiatus. shrug
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
America is the greatest country in the history of the world!
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I lold, then I cried because I remembered it was you…[/quote]