When I first read it, I immediately thought of Powell on Meet the Press. Sounded just like him…and now you confirmed it.
The bottom line is, people are going to vote for their candidate based on a myriad of reasons. If a person likes Obama because he is articulate, intelligent, etc. than that reason is as good as any.
If a person likes McCain because he is a war veteran, or he is more conservative, so be it.
But…there are other reasons too.
Do you think that idiot who had an Obama bumper sticker on the head of a stuffed monkey, who he named ‘Little Hussain’ is voting for McCain because he likes McCains policies ? I doubt it.
And it goes the other way too…many blacks will vote for Obama because of race.
Maybe a lot of people are ‘latching on’ to Obama based on charisma, the way he speaks, his intelligence, etc. is beacause for the last 4-5 years, there has been none of that in the White House. Gotta give W a little slack when he first came in since he was dealt a shitty hand early on.
Push…I agree 100% that it is part of the problem. But it is still part of the process. There will always be ‘latchers’.
If a multitude of people think clearly, form opinions based on their ideology, their beliefs, etc. and begin to agree with a candidates platform, are they then considered ‘bonding’ or ‘in-tune’ with that candidate
(since latching on is more just going for the ride…like the lemmings you referenced earlier) ?
i find it hard to believe that anyone with a straight face can claim that the Left doesn’t hate Sarah Palin. They hate her with a burning passion. It’s obvious. They savage her. The Katie Couric interviews were atrocious. The editing and playing over and over the one or two soundbites. Then when she actually debates Biden people are amazed that she can speak in coherent sentences.
[quote]deputydawg wrote:
i find it hard to believe that anyone with a straight face can claim that the Left doesn’t hate Sarah Palin. They hate her with a burning passion. It’s obvious. They savage her. The Katie Couric interviews were atrocious. The editing and playing over and over the one or two soundbites. Then when she actually debates Biden people are amazed that she can speak in coherent sentences.[/quote]
People weren’t amazed that she could speak in coherent sentences. They were amazed that a human being could wink so many times and not get a repetitive strain injury on her eye lid.
[quote]GumsMagoo wrote:
People weren’t amazed that she could speak in coherent sentences. [/quote]
To be fair they are only semi-coherent sentences. I never really understand what she is trying to say other than Obama is anti-American and John McCain is a hero.
If I believe her line of reasoning then the true choice of who to vote for becomes clearly obvious.
I think her line of reasoning is more like this: If you object to her on the basis of lack of experience to be vice-president, then how in the world can you argue with a straight face that Obama has sufficient experience to be Presdident? But the Palin hate from the media continues and it will continue because because the elitists of the east and west coasts despise average, non-Ivy league, middle class Americans.
[quote]deputydawg wrote:
I think her line of reasoning is more like this: If you object to her on the basis of lack of experience to be vice-president, then how in the world can you argue with a straight face that Obama has sufficient experience to be Presdident? But the Palin hate from the media continues and it will continue because because the elitists of the east and west coasts despise average, non-Ivy league, middle class Americans. [/quote]
Not sure if those elites “despise” Palin so much as they don’t think she’s got the education to be president. I read an interesting article last week about how the “Republican intelligencia from the Washington to NYC corridor” strongly dislike the Palin pick. And I can understand why. It’s not that Pailin is dumb, she’s quite smart. It’s that she lacks the type of education and experience that they (we) believe is necessary in order to be president. Look at Colin Powell’s words above (my previous posts). He, arguably a member of the right intellegencia, strongly dislikes Palin.
The education I’m speaking of doesn’t necessarily come from the ivy league, mind. McCain graduated near the bottom of his class, but is one of the most educated statesmen in congress. I’m talking about they type of knowledge about the macroeconomy, foreign policy, and judicial systems that should be demanded of one seeking high office. Palin simply doesn’t have it.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
The education I’m speaking of doesn’t necessarily come from the ivy league, mind. McCain graduated near the bottom of his class, but is one of the most educated statesmen in congress. I’m talking about they type of knowledge about the macroeconomy, foreign policy, and judicial systems that should be demanded of one seeking high office. Palin simply doesn’t have it.
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Neither did Reagan.
What she does have, and what scares the holy hell out of the intellectual republicans, is charisma.
It says far more about those who are scared of her, or mask their fear by saying she does not have it, than it does Palin herself.
I love how you mention topics that she is lacking a command of, but have to have others tell you that she is lacking a command of them.
I think that the ones on the right who dislike her know that their days are numbered as the power brokers if she is allowed to have a pulpit from which to bully.
she is allowed to have a pulpit from which to bully.
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Yikes…I cannot imagine a person who thinks man and the dinosuars lived at the same time, being able to bully from a pulpit !
I am all for believing in a creator, a God, etc. but give science some credit. Shoot, she bashed the fruit fly research without knowing exactly how important it is !! And it may have been because she is naive, or possibly because she does not believe in science.
Some may like her, some may love her. She scares me.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
The education I’m speaking of doesn’t necessarily come from the ivy league, mind. McCain graduated near the bottom of his class, but is one of the most educated statesmen in congress. I’m talking about they type of knowledge about the macroeconomy, foreign policy, and judicial systems that should be demanded of one seeking high office. Palin simply doesn’t have it.
Neither did Reagan.
What she does have, and what scares the holy hell out of the intellectual republicans, is charisma.
It says far more about those who are scared of her, or mask their fear by saying she does not have it, than it does Palin herself.
I love how you mention topics that she is lacking a command of, but have to have others tell you that she is lacking a command of them.
I think that the ones on the right who dislike her know that their days are numbered as the power brokers if she is allowed to have a pulpit from which to bully.
Sloth: thanks for the picture. They hate her. There is no question that they hate her.
Colin Powell is not part of the “right” intelligentsia. Colin Powell is a centrist, a moderate. furthermore he is the modern day reincarnation of Robert McNamara – for all of young’uns he was Kennedy and LBJ’s sec. of defense that was so gung-ho about Viet Nam but then after the fact says he screwed up and he really knew it was wrong and he’s really sorry.
Same with Powell. As Sec. of State, if he really didn’t beleive in the whole WMD’s and invading Iraq he should have said “I resign” and here’s why. That’s what truly honorable public servants do. There are many examples of this throughout history.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
pushharder wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
I don’t think the right “hates” Barack Obama. I think many of them are baffled by the idea of him as POTUS. Obama made his campaign about change and then asked an old senator who has been in D.C. for 30 years to be his running mate.
I don’t think being “America’s hottest half black man” counts as experience.
Fixed that fer ya, buddy. NOW it makes sense.
When people are convinced that Obama is an unpatriotic… terrorist…traitor…Arab…Muslim…Marxist…Socialist…anti-white racist nigger(hypocrisy at its finest)…ummmm…that’s hate in my book.
I may be wrong but I don’t think he’s any of those things. Wait a minute, he IS a socialist; that is undeniable.
I believe he is a carefully groomed Product of the Chicago Machine. The most liberal senator in the US Senate. A smart guy. A smart, smooth talkin’ guy. A smart, smooth talkin’ guy who stands against almost everything I do politically. A smart, smooth talkin’ guy who stands against almost everything I do politically who will attempt to transform the USA into a European styled nanny state.
Oh…and “America’s hottest half black man”…that was bad taste…lol. You can do better than that,push.
But, no. There are more sycophants gushing over his “hotness” than there are red-blooded American males gushing over Palin’s.
Some idiots even support him in a feeble attempt for self atonement for America’s racist past and for no other reason.[/quote]
This was truly a brilliant post! This rivals Thunderbolt’s posts.
[quote]Floortom wrote:
LOL…Palin is the epitome of what’s wrong with the modern GOP so it’s no suprise she appeals to the half-wits on this board:
anti-intellectual? check
power-hungry? check
fear-mongering? check
Christian extremist? check
If the GOP clings to this dummy, that ship will sink even quicker. She holds no appeal to anyone other than the moronic “base”[/quote]
If you owned an NFL team, would you hire as a head coach someone who had never ever been a head coach of anything? Yet you propose, with an idiot’s crudeness, to hand over leadership of the greatest nation on earth to a first-term Senator who has never been an executive anything.
You propose to hand over our country to a man who chooses a stumbing idiot like Biden, who thought that Roosevelt was President in 1929 and that FDR went on TV in 1929 to calm the American people, and you then seriously call Sarah Palin stupid?
Your reasons for denouncing Sarah Palin are as empty and shallow as BHO’s promises of tax cuts for 95% of Americans, whilst raising spending by 1 trillion dollars.
