10/4 makes sense, Too much E2 sucks… will know in a week or so after labs
Thanks
quick hCG question… Dr. mentioned 125IU sublingual hCG as a addition to my TRT is this as effective as injections? of do we need to have more conversation with explanation for the Dr. to understand the benefits of sc injections?
quick hCG question… Dr. mentioned 125IU sublingual hCG as a addition to my TRT is this as effective as injections? of do we need to have more conversation with explanation for the Dr. to understand the benefits of sc injections?
KSman, finally got 12 week labs
A little more educated now so started talking to dr about E2 issues. AI approach didn’t get a great reply, but I now have labs to show high E2 and will try to come back to dr with this report as evidence of some type of action needed to reduce E2.
Dr wanted to stay with current 1x a week IM 1ml (200mg) injection until these lab results to see if her approach was working.
She was not against 2x per week SC at .5 ml (100mg) to help with spikes and drops, after this the lab work was done.
The lab work is a week old, and I have done my last 2 injestions SC 100mg (.5ml) twice now. (so easy)
I just received these results today
Fasting
cholesterol 164 75-200 mg/dl
HDL 44 40-131 mg/dl
Triglycerides 55 11-150 mg/dl
Chol /HDL ratio 3.73 0.00-4.99 ratio
VLDL chol calculation 11 5-40 mg/dl
non HDL chol. 120 0-129 mg/dl
LDL chol. calculation 109 <101 mg/dl
LDL/HDL ratio 2.5 <3.3 ratio
Estradiol 78 <20-47 pg/ml
PSA 0.06 0.00-4.00 ng/gl
TT 852.25 205-781 ng/dl
free T percent 2.85 1.60-2.90 %
free T calculation 243 33-227 pg/ml
T bioavailable 570 131-682 ng/dl
SHGB 21.5 13.3- 89.5 nmol/L
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) by MS/MS serum
DHEA by TMS 0.567 0.630-4.700 ngml low
what are your thoughts on this
In my 3rd week of IR protocol 50 mg a day morning temps average the same 95.9-96.3 but by 10-11am 98 and 98.6 most all day till 6-7 pm the afternoon temps are greatly improved
Strong a ever in the gym, but flush hot feeling on face often, ED problems worse that before TRT, Viagra not helping now, low libido still, more energy that before but still sucks, a little moody but better than before trt.
Thanks for any input from those in the know
Reposted a new thread, “on trt 18 week labs still need help” with new and old labs so this is old post. need as much help learning how to use the forum Getting old SUCKS
Sublingual hCG does not work. And good quality study on intranasal hCG showed zero effect on serum hCG levels. These large peptide hormones do behave that way.
DHEA is wrong lab work as DHEA levels change a lot. DHEA-S levels are steadier and provide a better measure of DHEA status.
Take 25mg/day and test DHEA-S next time.
Lab timing was ???
7 days after injection? - rather uselss
200mg T per week is why E2 is extreme
Suggest that you try the protocols recommended here.
KSman
had the 1ml(200mg) injection on a Friday late afternoon (5pm)…then drew blood following wed AM (8:30 am)for the lab results your looking at.
The order was for DHEA-s That is what was written on the script… so the lab did not do correct? according to this result?
I have started the 2x a week sc injections at .5ml (100mg) each injection.
1.5 weeks on new injection protocol, (3rd injection) should that make a significant difference in E2?
Or try the recommended protocol:
- 100mg test cypionate injected per week with two injections per week.
- 250iu hCG SC EOD
- 1.0mg Arimidex/anastrozole per week in divided doses.
The TRT I’m doing
Dr. is going to be a hard sell on AI
I might be needing to interviewing new Dr.
Blood pressure spiking, Feel like face is on fire and is bright red several times a day. Dr said last week she is researching Arimidex for use in men, she is open to it to help get my E2 down from 79. I went to .5 mL 100 mg sc 2x a week 2 weeks now. BP at 179/90 thur then 179/112 fri excessive lower leg swelling too… I have never had high bp? always 125/74ish. Is this most likely another elevated E2 problem? this is after 14 weeks TRT. If so I need to find another Dr. soon or lite a fire under current Dr. Butt
estrogen induced bloat
Yep, thanks
Dr. did a little research as promised and recommend Arimidex .25mg (1/4 pill) 2x a week, she is writing the script for double that (1/2 pill 2x a week) and can increase if necessary after labs in 4 weeks? She had concerns of over reacting to AI and did not want to have an E2 crash. Do you thing this is a decent starting approach? Or should I recommend starting with 1/2 pill 2x a week, I think she will if I prefer starting higher dose. Should I take Adex at same time as SC T injections?
Anybody having an issue with getting injectable Hcg? My pharm says on back order due to hcg diet clinic use? Any advise
Quick question, I have switched to SC injections 2x a week (100mg .5ml each)T running 825 all good. Last 3 injections I wound up with a lump 3 days after injection and it stayed there and itchy for about a week. T cyp allergy? should I switch to T eth.? I never want to go back to IM injections
again Thanks
Really like your thread. I do 150mg 2x a week IM not sub q. I think youd like IM MUCH better. I shoot with a 25g needle, no pain. I take 1/2 a tab 2x a week. Trying 1/4 tab now. Will let you know how that goes. 1 tab bottoms me out. 1/2 gets me a bit to low. For you, I would 1 tab 2x a week for a couple of weeks just to get you down, then go to 1/2 a tab 2x a week.
So how did you go with the AI?
Can’t see any follow up in your thread