Daily creams has no esters attached to testosterone, it hits the bloodstream and testosterone and estrogen peaks with 1-2 hours, with injections you can control size of the peaks, a large injection will see large peaks and a small injection sees a smaller peaks, imagine the size of the peak of 100mg versus 10mg per injection.
Massive difference, now imagine how steady of a levels you can have on daily versus weekly, these smaller steadier levels tend to keep estrogen spikes very small, large injections would see my estrogen sky high.
I can inject 100mg and see estrogen several time the ranges, or I can inject daily and see estrogen under 30 pg/mL. You don’t get that type of control on creams.
I’m not saying creams don’t work well, I’m saying if having problems controlling estrogen on creams, injectable T is easier to control all levels.
Creams are more stable and it’s immediate not having to wait 6 weeks or more to build up your levels. It also absorbs directly into the system and does not have to process through the liver like injections. E2 is lower with cream as well. Creams bring levels higher with smaller dosages than injections. Everything I have realized and been told by my prescriber.
That makes sense. I thought creams still had the esters as it is still test cypionate just different delivery method. I’m going to dig into that more as I would like to get off an AI so if that is the case I would prefer that
Maybe but I think cream is more immediate. If you have high e2 issues on injections it can take weeks to lower the levels … with cream you can see the change in a matter of hours or days. .
You only have poor absorption is it’s not compounded well… many folks had issues with bad pharmacies and then realize how good cream is when they get a cream with proper dose. One guy said he would take 10 clicks and it didn’t work. He found a good pharmacy and he felt the difference immediately.
Dont believe my blood is too thick as I just did a double red donation about a month ago and it was within that week after that I read high BP. Never know for sure without labs though. I am planning on getting bloods here soon and getting DHT, free t, total t and e2.
Discounted labs is who I am getting my next ones through. Just have to drive 45 min to get them done. When I paid that $700 it was through my family doc and “insurance”.
Same here, low testosterone affects the cardiovascular system negatively and when testosterone is low, vens narrow and the pituitary sense poor blood flow and therefore increases heart rate to compensate.
I am going to throw in a couple of things. My TSH shot up to 4.0 when I started TRT. I went off to try a restart because I think that I may be secondary and not primary and my TSH dropped right back down. I would not get real worked up about thyroid numbers initially, give them some time to adjust.
I did have some success with Arginine lowering my blood pressure. Not super consistently, but it did have a definite effect. But, I am also learning about my gene mutations and trying to understand how they might effect all of that.
