hi, i have good news
got blood drawn today, i used the old prescrip of my doc added by handwriting what i wanted and everthing will be in charge of insurance 
and hope i get tomorrow a GnRH test ( added this by handwriting aswell hope it works or i’d pay it ouf of pocket if they agree with )
doctors in france are idiots, saying that everything is normal lol.
i feel every symptoms, and she don’t want to treat me so let’s treat myself !
Results came back low T below that f…cking “normal range” , high prolactin maybe this time she will see what i’m talking about but to be honest i don’t want to go back to this trash " dr "
will post results when i get full results
and sucess got my GnRH today
lab asked me " did the doctor add this test ? "
me saying " YES " and everything went good LOL!
they said that i will get full results next week
and me like a lil rat i asked them to test TT and FT before and after the gnrh test
first they said it not possible, i told them that dr needs all this DATA
they called a doctor that work in the lab and he said " we will test TT and FT during the whole test "
i’m very lucky, jackpot !
couldn’t test RT4 and RT3 and homocysteine insurance won’t pay for it and it can cost me up to 180€ only for these 3
This might explain why some come in here with incomplete labs for thyroid, doctors know full well their restrictions placed on them by insurance companies.
welcome to france, insurance will cover everything for transgenres but don’t cover nebido
in france we have only androtardyl 250mg at 10€ and insurance cover only 65% for it !
Nebido is garbage, you can’t tweak you treatment worth a damn on that crap, I don’t understand why other countries can’t just use what’s proven, T cypionate or ethanate injected once, twice or EOD so you can fine tune your protocol.
@systemlord but 250mg/ 2 week protocol is bad aswell
and i think it’s the only protocol used here in france, i need to find a good endocrinologist
and i need to get an MRI high prolactin level means there is a tumour right ?
was testes for HCG and result is 0 testicular ultrasound everthing good
so we can say that in my case it’s secondary hypogonadism with low lh and fsh ?
I originally started out 200mg every 3 weeks by a doctor who looked like a dear in headlights anytime I asked him an intelligent question regarding my protocol, so I know firsthand it doesn’t work out well! Even though 10 day into it I was still in the 400-600 range I felt like pure crap, whenever you get these large injections your T spikes, then followed by E2 spikes, then when your T starts dropping, your E2 is still elevated and now your T–>E2 ratio is out of balance and this is why you feel like shit.
what’s your protocol now ?
80mg total weekly, I inject 20mg EOD do to my low SHBG which puts me in the high 700 range. No AI, no HCG. Those large injections greatly suppressed my SHBG while skyrocketing my E2, doctor thought I should continue like this. Even he knew he was clueless and never told me the truth that I might be better off finding a doctor who had better knowledge of male hormones.
Results from first lab @KSman @systemlord
VITESSE DE SEDIMENTATION(Test 1 Micro photometre)
1ère heure mm: * 34 (2 - 10)
2ème heure mm: * 71 (5 - 17)
CREATININE mg/L: 6,7 (6,7 - 11,7)
(Méthode enzymatique standardisée IDMS ) µmol/l: 59,3 (59 - 104)
CLAIRANCE CALCULEE HOMME ml/min: 289 (80 - 167)
(par la formule de Cockroft et Gault)
ACIDE URIQUE mg/L: 55 (34 - 70)
(Colorimétrique enzymatique (PAP))
µmol/l: 327,3 (202-416)
GLYCEMIE A JEUN g/L: 1,04 (0,74-1,09)
(Methode HEXOKINASE)
mmol/l: 5,78 (4,11-6,05)
HEMOGLOBINE GLYCOSYLEE % : 5,1 (4,8 - 6)
(HPLC Biorad D10)
mmol/mol : 32,2 (29,0-42,0)
TRIGLYCERIDES g/L: 1,37 (inf a 1,5)
(Colorimétrique enzymati.) mmol/l: 1,56 (inf a 1,7)
ASPECT DU SERUM : Limpide
CHOLESTEROL TOTAL g/L: 1,52 (1,40-2,35)
(Colorimétrique enzymatique (CHOD-PAP)) mmol/l: 3,92 (3,60-6,10)
CHOLESTEROL HDL g/L: * 0,33 (Sup 0,40)
(Enzymatique colorimetrique) mmol/l: 0,85
Rapport CHOLESTEROL TOTAL / HDL: 4,6
SODIUM mEq/L: 140 (136 - 145)
(Electrodes sélectives en potentiométrie indirecte)
POTASSIUM SERIQUE mEq/L: 4,80 (3,5 - 5,1)
(Electrodes sélectives en potentiométrie indirecte)
CHLORE SERIQUE mEq/L : 98 (98 - 107)
(Electrodes sélectives en potentiométrie indirecte)
PROTEINE C REACTIVE mg/L : 10,9 ( < à 5 )
(Mesure immunoturbidimetrie -Roche- )
VITAMINE B12 pg/ml: 377 (197 - 771)
(Modular E 170 Roche Immunoenzymologie)
TRANSAMINASES ASAT (GOT) UI/l: 27 (inf 40)
(IFCC à 37°)
TRANSAMINASES ALAT (GPT) UI/l: 36 (inf 41)
(IFCC à 37°)
GAMMA G.T. UI/l: 49 (8 - 61)
(SZASZ - Substrat Carboxy - GNA a 37°)
FERRITINE ng/ml: * 25 (30 - 400)
(Immunoturbimétrique)
P.S.A total ng/ml : 2,05
(CMIA - Abbott-Architect i2000sr )
DOSAGE DE LA BETA H.C.G. PLASMATIQUE
(E I A Roche - E170 Modular)
Taux de Béta-H.C.G UI/l: 0
PROLACTINE ng/ml: 19 (4 - 21)
(Eclia - Roche - Modular-E170)
OESTRADIOL pg/ml: 25
(Eclia - Roche Modular E170)
F.S.H. plasmatique : 1,9 UI/l
(Eclia - Roche Modular E170)
L.H. plasmatique UI/l: 3,3
(Eclia - Roche Modular E170)
CORTISOL (Elecsys-Roche) Prélt entre 7h et 9h (µg/100ml) : * 0,6 (8 - 25) Après freinage minute
TESTOSTERONE plasmatique ng/ml: 2,05 (2,8 a 8,0)
(EIA-E170 Modular- Roche)
T3 Libre pmol/l: 5,09 (3,93-7,70)
(ECLIA - Modular E170 Roche)
T4 Libre ng/100ml: 1,26 (0,98-1,63)
(ECLIA - Modular E170 Roche)
TEBG - sex binding protein SHBG (ECLIA-COBAS® Roche)(§) #
6,32 nmol/L
Testostérone libre (RIA) #
5,5 pg/mL 8,3-40,1
19,1 pmol/L 28,8-139,0
DHT - Dihydrotestostérone (RIA)
0,13 ng/mL 0,33-1,20
0,45 nmol/L 1,13-4,13
Somatomédine C (IGF-1) (CLIA - Liaison® XL - Diasorin) #
300 ng/mL 133-395
39 nmol/L 17-51
Your blood work looks alot like mine. Im 37 though so i have a few years on you. i dont have any advice, because im still in the learning phase. One thing that i have been dealing with that you might want to check out is, inflamation in the small and large intestine. Apparently i have it but dont really have any digestive symptoms. im in the same boat as you and trying to figure out why my shbg is so low.
You need rT3 tested as well, also cortisol is low. You’re low SHBG could just be genetic, as doctors say it’s the hand you were dealt unless rT3 is blocking fT3 which could lower SHBG.
i called the second lab to get my full results of the GnRH test they said i should get the results tomorrow
cortisol is low because i took at 11pm dectancyl
results from second lab shows high cortisol done without taking dectancyl
http://centre-hypertension.org/soins/les-examens/freinage-audectancyl/
you can translate this
i still need to get an MRI because 2 or 3 years ago my vision decreased
and now wearing glasses since 1 year
and still suffering from atrocious headaches sometimes
hope it’s not a pituitary gland tumour, because it’s not a joke…
got the results for the GnRH test, " I THINK " i’m both primary and secondary smh
LH went high FSH normal …
but T level still the same ! i don’t know what i should understand …
will post all results once i get the time for each T level because the lab missed this
Don’t pay any attention to your E2 labs, those E2 tests in your country are for females and is useless, you currently don’t have access to the correct male E2 hormone test.
and do you know what the exact name to ask labs to get the correct test ?
and how do you know that this test is only for females ?
i think i have gyno because i have sore nipples
Sore nipples doesn’t automatically mean it’s do to high E2, T builds muscle. I had sore itchy nipples and have never taken an AI and back then I was on 75mg weekly. Estradiol Sensitive LC/MS-MS is for male E2 levels, the one your doctor ordered ECLIA is for women. Guys come in here talking cm and Kg and automatically know any E2 test is the wrong one, then there’s the fact that anyone outside the USA doesn’t even have access to the proper E2 testing.
These ECLIA tests are responsible for guys doctors over prescribing AI doses on E2 labs that tend to overestimate when actually your E2 levels are much lower, this will crash a mans E2 levels in short order. It’s also why a lot of guys give up on TRT do to clueless doctors and ordering tests design for females.
@KSman need your opinion !
i have broken balls ? HCG test needed
can we say that my testes failed at producing T ?
LH 1,24 - 8,62 mUI/mL
FSH 1,3 - 19,3 mUI/mL
Testosterone 2,49-8,36 ng/mL
Free T 8,3−40,1 pg/mL
LH - 4,3 mUI/mL | FSH - 2,0 mUI/mL | Testosterone - 1,94 ng/mL | Free T - 5,6 pg/mL
LH - 48,0 mUI/mL | FSH - 6,0 mUI/mL | Testosterone - 1,91 ng/mL | Free T - 5,5 pg/mL
LH - 39,4 mUI/mL | FSH - 6,2 mUI/mL | Testosterone - 2,03 ng/mL | Free T - 5,4 pg/mL
LH - 36,5 mUI/mL | FSH - 6,8 mUI/mL | Testosterone - 1,94 ng/mL | Free T - 5,6 pg/mL
LH - 32,2 mUI/mL | FSH - 7,6 mUI/mL | Testosterone - 2,14 ng/mL | Free T - 6,6 pg/mL
Found E2EH test
https://www.biomnis.com/en/services/test-guide/page/E2EH/
seems to be the correct test !
i need an HCG test
https://www.biomnis.com/en/services/dynamic-tests/hcg-test-adult-men/
@systemlord in my last posts i was talking about this test https://www.biomnis.com/en/services/dynamic-tests/dexamethasone-rapid-inhibition-test/
but for the second lab i didn’t take dectancyl but the first i did
bump, anyone ? @systemlord and @KSman
You really need to convert you labs to english, that’s the reason no one is responding. I also don’t understand your multiple LH and FSH tests.
