2024 Presidential Candidate Talk

Indeed, sir.

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Ive been hoping for this to happen for quite some time. Just keep dropping them all in liberal strongholds. Their voting block is why the dems want to let them in free of charge anyways, so its a win-win right?

From an outsider point of view I believe De Santis would be the best thing. There is a raging culture war in USA and it seems only he knows how to end it, while being an excellent media player. This is the major problem US needs to fix, before moving forward to a better future.

America needs Americans being Americans. Patriotic, hard working, fun and intelligent. All on one side. And the society needs to get rid of all these attentiin whores and leeches.

I like DeSantis, but I’m pretty conservative. I would vote for him, but I don’t think he is the person who could unite the country. Nothing he does appeals to the left at all. They hate him I don’t know who the person is that could help bring us together. Probably a non-politician like Cuban or someone.

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Abbott’s in favor of keeping a COVID-19 CDC order in place?

Personally, I agree - but I’m also in agreeance with @doogie in that I don’t think he will unite the country. I do not place blame for this at DeSantis’ feet though, rather the leftist media.

When he first rose to popularity, he could have been appealing to those on the other side of the aisle, but MSM picked up on that and started slinging all the mud they could find at him.
60 Minutes did a hit piece on him saying he had a pay-to-play vaccine rollout with Publix stores, Disney going all woke, calling a bill a “Don’t Say Gay” bill when all it did was prevent <=3rd grade teachers from teaching about gender identity, saying he’s just “Florida Trump”… I could go on

I believe MSM picked up on the fact that he had tremendous support and wasn’t overly divisive, so they made him divisive with their narrative. I don’t think he’s that far right-leaning tbh, all of his actions go to say he supports individual liberties - which used to be something both parties agreed on.

At the same time Fauci and the CDC are warning of a possible resurgence and recommending a 4th shot, they are lifting Title 42 and letting in hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated migrants into the country. Of course he’s in favor of keeping Title 42 in place.

All I know is that if it’s Trump vs. Hillary in 2024 the US deserves whatever circle of hell it descends into.

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To be clear, I’ve got no problem with Texas doing whatever it deems necessary to protect its borders from illegal aliens. I just thought there’s some irony in Abbott using that particular mechanism.

The difference with Trump is De Santis shuts people down when they talk him down, while Trump is only talking. I think the MSM will have a very difficult time surviving a 4 year term with De Santis, just like Disney will have if they dont shut up.

So no matter how devisive the media is trying to portray him, they will be legally forced to stop. That is my opinion. The guy looks like a doer and wont let bw bullied.

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Genuinely curious where/how you see this happening

He seems prone to riling up his base, and in turn riling up the Dem base. If the goal is to unify the country, I think he is far from the right choice.

But, I don’t know if a candidate can unify the country at this point? I was going to say a moderate, but my feeling on that is that whatever side the candidate is on, that side will think the candidate is not doing enough, and the other side will thing they are extreme to the side they are on.

Maybe it’s time to bring Jesse Ventura out of retirement. America ain’t got time to bleed would be a pretty epic campaign slogan. TBH, I don’t know much about him at this point. Very well could be awful haha.

Something (relatively) useful I learned in my studies about presidential candidates is that during primaries - most candidates go far left or far right in their claims so they can separate themselves from the “competition”. The closer to the actual election they get - the more centrist their claims become, as an effort to appeal to a wider base.

Just sharing observations made by others (not myself)

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I really hope these are not vain threats. It needs to happen. Pipe strait to where the politicians live, then see how much they want the open boarders. As a matter of fact, just keep busses at the boarder with signs that say “Washington DC”, “L.A.”, “NY”, “Delaware”, “Martha’s Vineyard” and actually do it. Pipe those people to where they are wanted the most.

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Legal actions of defamation for example. Ban from Twitter? Lets change a few laws and etc. You cant have media and social media fabricating lies, while the other party fabricates impeachments. Jan 6th comeetee? Jan 6th comeete them. De Santis can do this.

Trump is too much talks and not enough action.

What really needs to be done is all these fake journalists, and organizations such as BLM and Antifa, fake politicians to be hunt down and threated like a Trump supporter on a Jan 6th.

You say that would be devisive? I say these are the people dividing you.

In my country we have too many politicians and organizations that are pro Russian. Ex prime minister for example was hunted down and arrested. Main procuror is currently hunted. Russian diplomats are being called persona non grata. Basically the current prime minister is trying to extract everything pro Russian that is dividing our country.

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The problem here is inherent in the writing of our constitutional laws. It’s free speech whether you like it or not and defamation is stating falsehoods as if they were fact… The bullshit that can be pulled in the english language allows for written murder of character without it technically meeting the definition of “defamation”. Unfortunately, the “few laws” you speak to changing are either unprecedented or cannot be violated due to the constitution - and I stand by that.

I don’t agree with setting up a witch hunt the likes of the Jan 6th comitee. Just because it’s being done to people who voted like me doesn’t mean it should become the new norm and I do not support it becoming regular.

Again, doing this violates so many of our rights that I cannot support it. Hunting down BLM or Antifa 1) is unconstitutional (no matter how much damage they’ve caused) and 2) will only stoke the fire.

Yes, these people are dividing us, but this is a two-sided sword. I can sit here and rail against CNN, MSNBC, Social Media companies, but they are just as bad as Fox is anyhow. None of them do anything to help us as ‘The People’.

“If you aren’t paying for the product, it’s because you are the product”

Defaming is not free speach. Editorial rights are for publishers. Social Media is protected from publisher penalties such as defaming.

There is plenty that can be done without messing with constitutional rights.

Hunting down Trump supporters is unconstitutional as well. And all they did was to enter a building when they were invited.

So nothing bad here. Purge all the leachers so the nation is united.

I don’t think you understand how the Constitution works.

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Are you saying you believe it IS constitutional to hunt down people based on political beliefs/support?