[quote]pookie wrote:
…gravity is the weakest force in the universe (except maybe for your intellect)…
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I lol’d.
[quote]pookie wrote:
Vegita wrote:
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V
Yawn. A whining, blubbering Vegina. You post dumb crap you don’t understand and get all bent out of shape when people point out the dumbness of it to you. Instead of taking the numerous clues and educating yourself, you prefer to defend the dumbness to the end. Now you’re crying because your wittle feewings got hurt? Boo-fucking-hoo.
You know what the other galaxy crossing our own will do? Nothing.
As the poster above again pointed out, gravity is the weakest force in the universe (except maybe for your intellect), so even if you align the Earth with twelve galactic plates at the same time, the final effect will be trillions of times weaker than the moon’s gravity. Yeah, I’m sure you “temporarily” forgot about that too. Forgot too that those celestial phenomenas occur over millions of years, not over a few days.
Stop blaming everyone else for your own dumbness, and try to shut up and learn from those who are more knowledgeable than you. If it’s pity you want, go see your mom.
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Oh come on! “boo-fucking-hoo”? Wearing your IQ on your sleeve just makes you look insecure. Why not have the attitude for science to go with the knowledge? Vegita was respectful enough.
[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:
Oh come on! “boo-fucking-hoo”? Wearing your IQ on your sleeve just makes you look insecure. Why not have the attitude for science to go with the knowledge? Vegita was respectful enough.[/quote]
Being dishonest is not respectful.
[quote]pookie wrote:
tootles27 wrote:
NickRageSkursky wrote:
i have a question for newbatman…
according to the bible… the egg came before the chicken. right?
And the winning numbers for Mega Millions are?
1-22-29-44-52 Mega Ball 39
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Thanks, the check is in the mail!!
[quote]Vegita wrote:
zenomaly wrote:
Perhaps a pole shift will result as we are pulled on by the other galaxy in a different direction once we cross the event horizon of it’s magnetic or gravitational field.
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I assume that you are still talking about the center of the galaxy when you reference the “event horizon.” Here is just one of many web sites that explain what an event horizon is:
http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia/NumRel/BlackHoleAnat.html
So if the argument is that the super massive black hole in the center of the milky way galaxy would shift our poles then we would still not see this for thousands of years (the time it would take to reach the galctic center).
[quote]pookie wrote:
even if you align the Earth with twelve galactic plates at the same time, the final effect will be trillions of times weaker than your mom’s gravity.
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Now that’s just mean.
I came to the final page here to see of pookie needed help after his first post ( which pretty much destroyed and possible criticism) to seee he’s still doing a great job.
In the scheme of things, 2012 is here soon enough, so let’s dig this thread up.
Or merge it with squat rack curls and keep it safe till then!
[quote]pookie wrote:
Vegita wrote:
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V
Yawn. A whining, blubbering Vegina. You post dumb crap you don’t understand and get all bent out of shape when people point out the dumbness of it to you. Instead of taking the numerous clues and educating yourself, you prefer to defend the dumbness to the end. Now you’re crying because your wittle feewings got hurt? Boo-fucking-hoo.
You know what the other galaxy crossing our own will do? Nothing. As the poster above again pointed out, gravity is the weakest force in the universe (except maybe for your intellect), so even if you align the Earth with twelve galactic plates at the same time, the final effect will be trillions of times weaker than the moon’s gravity.
Yeah, I’m sure you “temporarily” forgot about that too. Forgot too that those celestial phenomenas occur over millions of years, not over a few days.
Stop blaming everyone else for your own dumbness, and try to shut up and learn from those who are more knowledgeable than you. If it’s pity you want, go see your mom.
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If gravity is so weak, why do galaxies stay together? I mean they spin, so what makes the stars out near the edge, thraveling the fastest, turn and stay in the galaxy? Gravity is weak in proportion to mass. So yes it is a weak force, however, when you have the mass of say, well over half a galaxy worth of stars, I’m guessing that gravity will be strong enough to pull on a star, and surely strong enough to pull on an earth.
Here is the deal, we are already being pulled on by one galaxy. Whatever one you say is fine because it is irrelevant. There may be a point when we encounter the galactic disc of a second galaxy the gravitational feild would be highest in the disc, this could cause unforseen events. For example, there were 400 earthquakes at yellowstone park from Dec 29th to Jan 2nd. According to the news reports this is not normal for there, a couple earthquakes a day is, but not 400.
Also , as one galaxy intersects another, the possibility of another star coming within proximity to ours is increased (over if there was no galaxy being intersected). So it’s possible that one of these Infared stars that are talked about in the article is moving up on us quickly and we haven’t seen it coming since it doesn’t give off much visible light (I remember reading about niribu and this being it’s charecteristics “supposedly”).
These are the two things I hold are still possible, and happen to be possible at or about 2012. Also I wasn’t whining or crying, I was asking you to be a better person and try to lift people up with your knowledge instead of trying to rip them down. I see even with all your mental ability, you still cannot comprehend that message so i’ll just let it go for now.
It appears much like many in the scientific feild, your thirst for knowledge is ego driven and not driven by the need to help others. P.S. Your a dickweed.
V
http://www-astro.physics.uiowa.edu/~kgg/teaching/modern/week11.html
This should clarify how weak (not very)gravity is, just in case anyone besides pookie is interested in learning.
V
[quote]Vegita wrote:
pookie wrote:
Vegita wrote:
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V
Yawn. A whining, blubbering Vegina. You post dumb crap you don’t understand and get all bent out of shape when people point out the dumbness of it to you. Instead of taking the numerous clues and educating yourself, you prefer to defend the dumbness to the end. Now you’re crying because your wittle feewings got hurt? Boo-fucking-hoo.
You know what the other galaxy crossing our own will do? Nothing. As the poster above again pointed out, gravity is the weakest force in the universe (except maybe for your intellect), so even if you align the Earth with twelve galactic plates at the same time, the final effect will be trillions of times weaker than the moon’s gravity.
Yeah, I’m sure you “temporarily” forgot about that too. Forgot too that those celestial phenomenas occur over millions of years, not over a few days.
Stop blaming everyone else for your own dumbness, and try to shut up and learn from those who are more knowledgeable than you. If it’s pity you want, go see your mom.
If gravity is so weak, why do galaxies stay together? I mean they spin, so what makes the stars out near the edge, thraveling the fastest, turn and stay in the galaxy? Gravity is weak in proportion to mass. So yes it is a weak force, however, when you have the mass of say, well over half a galaxy worth of stars, I’m guessing that gravity will be strong enough to pull on a star, and surely strong enough to pull on an earth.
Here is the deal, we are already being pulled on by one galaxy. Whatever one you say is fine because it is irrelevant. There may be a point when we encounter the galactic disc of a second galaxy the gravitational feild would be highest in the disc, this could cause unforseen events. For example, there were 400 earthquakes at yellowstone park from Dec 29th to Jan 2nd. According to the news reports this is not normal for there, a couple earthquakes a day is, but not 400.
Also , as one galaxy intersects another, the possibility of another star coming within proximity to ours is increased (over if there was no galaxy being intersected). So it’s possible that one of these Infared stars that are talked about in the article is moving up on us quickly and we haven’t seen it coming since it doesn’t give off much visible light (I remember reading about niribu and this being it’s charecteristics “supposedly”).
These are the two things I hold are still possible, and happen to be possible at or about 2012. Also I wasn’t whining or crying, I was asking you to be a better person and try to lift people up with your knowledge instead of trying to rip them down. I see even with all your mental ability, you still cannot comprehend that message so i’ll just let it go for now.
It appears much like many in the scientific feild, your thirst for knowledge is ego driven and not driven by the need to help others. P.S. Your a dickweed.
V[/quote]
Problem is, when you talk about an increased chance you are talking about an increase from an infinitesimal chance to a slightly larger infinitesimal chance. It’s like those newspaper headlines talking about something giving you a 30% increased risk of a sickness. If the original chance was tiny, the 30% increase is meaningless.
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pookie wrote:
Vegita wrote:
…
V
Yawn. A whining, blubbering Vegina. You post dumb crap you don’t understand and get all bent out of shape when people point out the dumbness of it to you. Instead of taking the numerous clues and educating yourself, you prefer to defend the dumbness to the end. Now you’re crying because your wittle feewings got hurt? Boo-fucking-hoo.
You know what the other galaxy crossing our own will do? Nothing. As the poster above again pointed out, gravity is the weakest force in the universe (except maybe for your intellect), so even if you align the Earth with twelve galactic plates at the same time, the final effect will be trillions of times weaker than the moon’s gravity.
Yeah, I’m sure you “temporarily” forgot about that too. Forgot too that those celestial phenomenas occur over millions of years, not over a few days.
Stop blaming everyone else for your own dumbness, and try to shut up and learn from those who are more knowledgeable than you. If it’s pity you want, go see your mom.
If gravity is so weak, why do galaxies stay together? I mean they spin, so what makes the stars out near the edge, thraveling the fastest, turn and stay in the galaxy? Gravity is weak in proportion to mass. So yes it is a weak force, however, when you have the mass of say, well over half a galaxy worth of stars, I’m guessing that gravity will be strong enough to pull on a star, and surely strong enough to pull on an earth.
Here is the deal, we are already being pulled on by one galaxy. Whatever one you say is fine because it is irrelevant. There may be a point when we encounter the galactic disc of a second galaxy the gravitational feild would be highest in the disc, this could cause unforseen events. For example, there were 400 earthquakes at yellowstone park from Dec 29th to Jan 2nd. According to the news reports this is not normal for there, a couple earthquakes a day is, but not 400.
Also , as one galaxy intersects another, the possibility of another star coming within proximity to ours is increased (over if there was no galaxy being intersected). So it’s possible that one of these Infared stars that are talked about in the article is moving up on us quickly and we haven’t seen it coming since it doesn’t give off much visible light (I remember reading about niribu and this being it’s charecteristics “supposedly”).
These are the two things I hold are still possible, and happen to be possible at or about 2012. Also I wasn’t whining or crying, I was asking you to be a better person and try to lift people up with your knowledge instead of trying to rip them down. I see even with all your mental ability, you still cannot comprehend that message so i’ll just let it go for now.
It appears much like many in the scientific feild, your thirst for knowledge is ego driven and not driven by the need to help others. P.S. Your a dickweed.
V
Problem is, when you talk about an increased chance you are talking about an increase from an infinitesimal chance to a slightly larger infinitesimal chance. It’s like those newspaper headlines talking about something giving you a 30% increased risk of a sickness. If the original chance was tiny, the 30% increase is meaningless.[/quote]
This is true, But without some very important info, we really don’t know if the chance went from 0% to .000001% or if it went from 0% to 1% or if it went from 0% to 25% Etc… Also The chance of another solar system Physically striking our own would probably never happen, but having one Pass near ours (in terms of light years or whatever) may have some type of impact, we just don’t know. For example Say one of the stars from the other galaxy is moving from the bottom of the disc to the top, along the other galaxies path, well we are also moving in a elliptical path around our galaxy. So we can’t look at where a star is in relation to us right now, we would need to look at where another star will be in a few years or so. In effect we could be 3 light years away from an infared star that would be hard to see without this new technology, if it moves up into our path at the same rate as we move around our path, we could intersect in 1.75 or 2 years for example.
The whole point is since this discovery is rather new, the data isn’t there for anyone to be claiming one way or another that there is either a certainty, or no chance that this will effect us. Skepticism is good and healthy, but to dismiss something like Pookie has is a classic mistake of the scientific minds throughout the ages. How many times do people who make breakout discoveries, get ridiculed by thier peers all throughout the process of discovery. Almost every great mind in the past has been called a fraud, a loon or a heretic at one point or another. I think this hurts science overall. Now i’m not saying people should be chasing every single theory about everything out there, there are certainly things which should be focused on with priority. Based on my limited information on the 2 galaxy system which we are currently experiencing, for someone to brush it off as no big deal or trivial without having any information on the matter seems a bit retarded. It’s not like i’m giving someone info about two creeks back in the woods coming together, Galaxies are the largest matter clusters we yet know of, the only thing bigger than a galaxy mass wise is the entire universe, so the interacting of two of these seems like it would be a pretty big deal.
Look I was just hoping with my initial post would give some information that people could discuss that has the possibility of being connected to 2012 while actually using some real scientific evidence. I mean I think pookie came down harder on me than he did the guy who was referencing the bible. Sheesh! Hopefully nobody thinks that I think we will perish in 2012 because another sun will collide with us. That is not what i’m saying. I’m just throwing out that the potential for it to happen is there, and it’s pretty strange that IF it did happen, it would likley be an infared star, much like the the predictions of niribu claim is going to happen.
I mean in reality, How does one galaxy devour another? It would seem that as the galaxies interact, something has to effect the stars from one in a way that they eventually settle into. Ok so being that GRAVITY, is what attracts mass to mass, there are two things, or perhaps a combination of two things which would happen. The entire gravitational feild of the galaxy pulls the stars into an orbit that concurs with the rest of the galaxy, generally the bigger galaxy, having more mass and thus gravity would effect the smaller galaxies stars. OR Perhaps, as a star passes through the big galaxy it comes into proximity with a star from that big galaxy, and the combined force locks the small galaxy star into a huge elliptical orbit around the star from the big galaxy. So perhaps the last time our sun entered this intersection point, 200 million years ago or so, it snagged a star from the saggitarius galaxy and put it into a very very long elliptical orbit around our solar system Over time (very long time) the other star would eventually settle into a more regular orbit with ours and we would end up with a binary star system. So this second star might orbit our sun in much shorter increments than 200 million years. Also each subsequet orbit would likley shorten the time between the next passing. Say the first orbit was 125 million years, Then the second was 75 Million years. If you do backwards math you could get that the last time we passed through 200 million years ago, we snagged a star, then 125 million years later, that star came in close on the short end of it’s elliptical orbit, slowed, made the dinos go extinct, and is coming back now.
Yea Yea, I know i’m just throwing ideas out there, but I am a thinker. I don’t try to see why things wont happen, I try to figure out how they might happen, or might have happened. Also since pookie got schooled on the gravitational feild of the galaxy and just how strong it is, where has he gone? Where is he defending his position that gravity isn’t very strong?
V
So many words and letters. My head hurts. Just thought I’d share that. I’m guessing you all are going to see 2012 the movie? Probably already mentioned, however, I didn’t take the time to read the entire thread. Sorry.
[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
So many words and letters. My head hurts. Just thought I’d share that. I’m guessing you all are going to see 2012 the movie? Probably already mentioned, however, I didn’t take the time to read the entire thread. Sorry. [/quote]
There isn’t usually a good way to describe complex astronomical phenomena in short 3 sentance paragraphs. Plus I ramble all the time, making it worse.
Sorry.
V
Didn?t read entire tread and apologize if this was already said but just take a qwik look here and for the full article here
http://www.december212012.com/articles/solar/2012_The_Astronomy_Connection.htm
Our scientific culture has finally come realize that our planet, the Sun, and the entire solar system had its origins at the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. We also have recently found that our Galaxy is 70,000 light years in diameter, with most of its 400 billion stars concentrated in the great central bulge.
Equipped with ultraviolet, x-ray and gamma-ray instruments, plus infrared telescopes most astronomers are now convinced that at the center of our Galaxy is a massive black hole the unimaginable seize of millions of our suns. This is where Science and Mythology truly meet. For what the center of our Galaxy may represent in terms of energy and the properties of time/space, no one has a clue.
But to the ancient Maya the Milky Way Galaxy represented the Great Cosmic Mother from which all Life was birthed. They saw our Galactic Mother stretching out across the night sky and somehow recognize the place where we all had come from. And the great central bulge at Her center they perceived as the Cosmic Womb. Within the central bulge there is what looks like a dark corridor, known as the dark rift. To the Maya it was referred to by many names but the most pertinent here is their reference to this area as the “birthing pace”. Are we beginning to get the picture here?
Considering then the significance of the 2012 date in the Mayan calendar, it has been discovered that this year specifically points to a period of time when the December Solstice Sun aligns with and arises out from the backdrop of the dark rift, the “Galactic Birth Canal” in the central bulge. It’s as if the Sun is actually being birthed anew from the Galactic Womb.
The Mayan Cosmology was not written in a book, but in the very stars above their heads. The meaning of this story was not revealed through the study of obscure interpretations, but through correspondence of associations assigned to the individual parts in the story. All we need to do is recognize those original associations and the story unfolds all by itself. Just as in our culture we have built up associations between the Winter Solstice, the New Year and the birth of Jesus Christ “the Son of God” who came into this world as “a savior of mankind”.
With the Maya we have discovered another story associated with the Winter Solstice, the New Year and the fate of people on Earth. The astronomical alignment of the Precessional Cycle of the Winter Solstice and Galactic Center represents the “Zero Point” on the Cosmic Clock, thus marking the beginning of the New Age in our evolutionary journey in consciousness. It tells us that a New Sun is born, a New Year has dawned, a New Galactic Cycle has begun, and the transformation of our World is well underway.
The big secret in this particular story is that we need not wait for the Winter Solstice in the year 2012 to recognize that we are entering into this time of profound transition. For according to the most recent astronomical calculations the Solstice Meridian actually coincided most precisely with the Galactic Equator between 1998 and 1999.
Just as the Earth?s equator divides the planet into two hemispheres of North and South, the Galactic Equator is the astronomical term for the dividing line of the Milky Way, separating the Galaxy into two halves. Similar to the time of the Equinox when the Sun appears to cross the Earth?s Equator and thus enters into a new hemisphere, so too in 1998 the Winter Solstice Sun began to cross over the Galactic Equator. Considering that the Sun is so large (about one half a degree wide) and the motion is so slow, our Sun will not be completely across the Equator and fully into the new Galactic Hemisphere until 2018.
So we need to understand then that the Mayan 2012 date is simply an indicator to this 20-year period of transition ? the birthing process of the New Age and the beginning point of the New Precessional Cycle of 26,000 years.
I find it almost the height of irony that the descendants of those white Europeans who came to the “New World” to bring enlightenment and salvation to the indigenous population, would now find buried here in some remote jungle a stone calendar/clock telling them what Time it is. A calendar or clock not foreign to their own cultural background, but one that actually incorporates and fulfills their most expansive vision of cyclic Time, the Precessional Cycle. This “Great Year” was long known to the Sumerians, Babylonians, Egyptians and the ancient Greeks but lacked a point at which it began or ended. Somehow down through the Ages that knowledge had been lost.
Perhaps the greatest gift the Mayan culture has given our world is the Zero Point to the Precessional Cycle of 26,000 years. Through the 2012 date in their calendar, they have indicated the importance of the Galactic Equator and it relevance to the Precessional Cycle, thus giving us the ability to now pinpoint the exact Time on our Galactic Clock.
Over the span of the 20 year transitional period as the Solstice Sun crosses the Galactic Equator and moves in to a new hemisphere, we will indeed witness the falling away of the old structures and the birthing of the new. For those who have eyes to see we are actually witnessing the birth of a planetary civilization. And the very logistics involved in this process will determine that the old values of the Nation States which was primarily based on competition and exploitation will have to eventually give way to a collaborative effort, where cooperation will be the dominate social value. This will arise not out of some new political, social or economic theory but the very desire of the human species to continue to survive and be successful
So in that its all about astronomy.All the people of the past used what was above their heads to use as guides and tools for there lives.
ok…
for the fool that said to read something other than the bible:
Micah 5:2
“God will be born in Bethlehem”
ok this is final jeopardy…
(music starts)
amongst every major event in world history from Babylon to Persia to Alexander to Cleopatra and the boys to Rome to the world basing its TIME SYSTEM on God’s birth in Bethlehem to the pope to Muhammed to Islam to every other religion this collection of prophets writings foretold everything major that ever happened in world history and says china and russia unite and make war on people that believe in God and then 1/3 of the water on earth gets poisoned by an angel named “Chernobyl” (translated in russian) while no other book (religious or not) ever could predict the A.D. and B.C. phenomenah or any major world history because this book is FROM GOD, the big guy…
oh yeh…
and when it says china and russia unite and make war with the children of God it means WORLDWIDE…
as in they kill everyone off that believes in God I think…
but you can read it for yourself…
search Gog and Magog
Hey you guys… search for John Titor.
If 2012 is really the end. Then It’s ironic because if I pass well…I’m gonna get my degree in 2011. I’ll have only a year to make up for the lack of poonany, booze etc etc. Another reason to go to Amsterdam after I get my freaking degree. HURRAY!
[quote]Christine wrote:
I’m still looking for my dress.[/quote]
uhm…hunny you forgot it here last night after we finished playing wrestling remember?
wait you can’t remember you just forgot…
Swine Flu will get us before then hahaha…yeah
Puff puff pass is not meant for you.